Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[Makeshift Park]

I am actually convinced now on why Cal reckons a Levi bid comes only at pick 5. I feel there is understanding with both North and Blues for Lions pick 27 & 34 to be nabbed. May be dependant on if Roos are trading pick 2 or not and to whom.

Maybe pick 27 is marked for North F2( if it is available and not traded). Pick 34 may be taken by Blues for 38 + one or more 60's picks.

If Roos get Pick 27 and Gerryn will get picked there before Freo has a chance.

From Hawks side, I am happy to trade out pick 33 for a F2 + XX as well, our list is well balanced and we may be happy to pick late this yr. If we have 2 F2's we can trade up to one of Suns F1 next yr as well.

Cats F2+45 for our 33 would be decent trade.

Sounds great for North and Carlton, but Brisbane are already pretty close to going into deficit.

Ashcroft bid on at 5 (1502pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 27, 34, 42 (1640pts)

Marshall bid on at 25 (559pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 43, 49, 58 (835pts)

So as it stands, they could give up a single third rounder for a future pick without losing part of next year's hand.

 

[sr36]

You can.

Are you sure?

Clubs always seem to trade out their picks if someone is anticipated to go close to their pick. Eg. Kako and Lombard. Has made me think that trading out after a bid isn't possible.

 

[BORIS332]

Is Edwards a complete write off at this point? He was very highly rated in last years draft but slid for whatever reason.

Absolutely not. He had his injury troubles in 2024 but Edwards looked great when he was on the park.

 

[Mofra]

I think you can. From memory we did so after Collingwood bid on Blake Coleman.

Yes.

And after the swans gamed the system years ago (within the rules at the time) the AFL brought in a rule about trading your original pick (s) back in - you can trade other picks back in though.

 

[sr36]

Sounds great for North and Carlton, but Brisbane are already pretty close to going into deficit.

Ashcroft bid on at 5 (1502pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 27, 34, 42 (1640pts)

Marshall bid on at 25 (559pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 43, 49, 58 (835pts)

So as it stands, they could give up a single third rounder for a future pick without losing part of next year's hand.

I think they'll do some trades and their hand will change a fair bit.

27 out for F2 and points. 34 and 43 down for more points.

Something like that.

 

[JasRulz63]

Sounds great for North and Carlton, but Brisbane are already pretty close to going into deficit.

Ashcroft bid on at 5 (1502pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 27, 34, 42 (1640pts)

Marshall bid on at 25 (559pts with discount) - Brisbane pay 43, 49, 58 (835pts)

So as it stands, they could give up a single third rounder for a future pick without losing part of next year's hand.

We'd also rather try and move a future third into this year for a late pick worth points than go into deficit next year given the points table changes and we have another potential top 5-10 academy player.

We're also most likely going to take at least one, possibly two additional picks this year (on top of Ashcroft and Marshall) according to our recruiting manager. That may be an academy tall like Ty Gallop, but it could also be used in the open draft.

 

[Sphynx]

Keith Greig is doing North's jumper handover to Pick 2 tonight. I can't recall him doing too many of these, if ever.

You reckon they are wheeling out one of the greatest wingman and an AFL Team of the Century Member for a CHB's jumper presentation?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Are you sure?

Clubs always seem to trade out their picks if someone is anticipated to go close to their pick. Eg. Kako and Lombard. Has made me think that trading out after a bid isn't possible.

Clubs can do both, but you are likely to get better value if you do it before a bid occurs not after, think you have 4 mins or so (might be longer for first rounds not sure). There was the Harry Rowston bid by us where the Giants matched in the end, they had the opportunity to trade out if need be.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You reckon they are wheeling out one of the greatest wingman and an AFL Team of the Century Member for a CHB's jumper presentation?

Got to give the Saints hope a mid might slip I guess

 

[LB2Snake]

Keith Greig is doing North's jumper handover to Pick 2 tonight. I can't recall him doing too many of these, if ever.

You reckon they are wheeling out one of the greatest wingman and an AFL Team of the Century Member for a CHB's jumper presentation?

i love this tye of stuff....sucker for the old legends of the club

 

[sr36]

Lions wouldn't have the points for both Ashcroft and Marshall if they trade out both those picks.

They only suggested trading 27 out - the other one was trading down for more points. Probalby doable if Levi gets to 5.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

They only suggested trading 27 out - the other one was trading down for more points. Probalby doable if Levi gets to 5.

If he's not bid on by pick 4, one of the picks will be flipped to the future, clubs that have these bids weirdly are very active as they would be ticking off the points they need from 1-5, and then doing the same for Marshall (won't be bid later than Sydney- we love a good Bidney)

 

[sr36]

If he's not bid on by pick 4, one of the picks will be flipped to the future, clubs that have these bids weirdly are very active as they would be ticking off the points they need from 1-5, and then doing the same for Marshall (won't be bid later than Sydney- we love a good Bidney)

I think the Marshall pick splitting will happen early - or their most tradeable picks will be gone in the Ashcroft bid.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Clubs can do both, but you are likely to get better value if you do it before a bid occurs not after, think you have 4 mins or so (might be longer for first rounds not sure). There was the Harry Rowston bid by us where the Giants matched in the end, they had the opportunity to trade out if need be.

Yeah I think if its an early bid its safer to trade out early. The high value assets involved mean the right deal might not be available on draft night. Doing deals during trade week has given Essendon and Goldcoast tonnes more flexibility.

While if its a later bid its simple to do on the night like Carlton and the Camporeales. Theyll have 2-3 clubs lined up in case of an early bid and itll likely be a single pick trade.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think the Marshall pick splitting will happen early - or their most tradeable picks will be gone in the Ashcroft bid.

Yeah correct, won't be done till after Carlton's pick for mine but I agree. 27 will be split and whatever.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yeah I think if its an early bid its safer to trade out early. The high value assets involved mean the right deal might not be available on draft night. Doing deals during trade week has given Essendon and Goldcoast tonnes more flexibility.

While if its a later bid it becomes a simpler like Carlton and Camporeale. Theyll have 2-3 clubs lined up ready and itll likely be a single pick trade.

Yeah the Carlton one will be easy and at a 3rd round for the lesser of the two twins you can just cop a deficit. People have to remember and this is a very important thing it's a 'deficit in the round the bid occurs next year'. So lets say Carlton have a bid pending at pick 45 ish which is the first pick of r3, they could just incur the deficit in a weaker 2025 draft. I don't like the rule for the record!

 

[TiAn_]

I think you can. From memory we did so after Collingwood bid on Blake Coleman.

Once a bid is made the matching team can’t trade their next available pick, although they can trade any subsequent or future picks.

E.g. in the 2022 draft Sydney bid on Harry Rowston at pick 16, forcing GWS to match with pick 17, their next available pick. Before placing the bid, Sydney had tried to leverage the rule to get GWS to trade for their pick 16.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yes.

And after the swans gamed the system years ago (within the rules at the time) the AFL brought in a rule about trading your original pick (s) back in - you can trade other picks back in though.

That was still hilarious, that was a peak BF Draft thread when we did these shenanigans

 

[hawkinoz]

If he's not bid on by pick 4, one of the picks will be flipped to the future, clubs that have these bids weirdly are very active as they would be ticking off the points they need from 1-5, and then doing the same for Marshall (won't be bid later than Sydney- we love a good Bidney)

Reading Cal's write up of Lions, it is clear their List management team is switched on. They did a trade with Pies in last minute last week to gain 24 points. Clearly they were aiming for pies pick 55 but pies seem to have not budged and so settled for pick 58 for 60+66.

Extrapolating from that, I expect Lions to trade 27 for F2 just before North call out pick 2. If I am North, that is what I would do, lose 27 or trade it for F2.
27 for F2+62+76 ( Both the picks will gain 100 pts by the time Marshall bid has come, lions lose points but gain a F2)
Same with Blues
34 for 38+68 (again pick 68 will gain points)

Optional
38+F3 for Hawks 33+71 ( points gain + pick 71 will gain points)

They can cop a small deficit if it happens and may not even move the pick + they gained a F2

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Apparently Dusty,Cotchin,Rewoldt,Grimes & Astbury are presenting the jumpers to the Tigers draftees tonight so maybe we are only uses 5 picks

 

[sr36]

Keith Greig is doing North's jumper handover to Pick 2 tonight. I can't recall him doing too many of these, if ever.

You reckon they are wheeling out one of the greatest wingman and an AFL Team of the Century Member for a CHB's jumper presentation?

Seriously?

Did Ross Glendinning get bumped because they haven't succeeded in trading Pick 2 down for a good price?

It's sounding like FOS from the pundits, but I doubt they're matching the champion's role to the role of the likely draftee.

 

[Elroo]

Keith Greig is doing North's jumper handover to Pick 2 tonight. I can't recall him doing too many of these, if ever.

You reckon they are wheeling out one of the greatest wingman and an AFL Team of the Century Member for a CHB's jumper presentation?

Having watched Greig play at Arden Street this is great to hear!

 

[Morro]

Apparently Dusty,Cotchin,Rewoldt,Grimes & Astbury are presenting the jumpers to the Tigers draftees tonight so maybe we are only uses 5 picks

Zero chance we have made that decision already, anything can happen with draft orders, sliders, pick swaps etc.

 

[JasRulz63]

Once a bid is made the matching team can’t trade their next available pick, although they can trade any subsequent or future picks.

Brisbane did it in 2020. Bid came in for Coleman at 24 (wiping out their next pick at 29), Brisbane were allowed to take extra time (for some reason) and then traded out 29.

 

[sanaya]

S-S-S-L-L-L-O-O-O-W-W-W

more W's than richmond saw this year so we'll take it