Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[sr36]

That's the thing, they already have enough points, they don't need to do more trades to get points. Only need to hunt points if 27 or 34 is traded for futures.

So if they can line up a futures trade for pick 34 before Levi bid then your trade for pick 27 makes sense. But then can they trade back in to a 30's pick to get a player?
there are 3 vanishing picks btw 43 and 52. So will pies be willing to trade 55 to move 5 spots up from 52? Maybe they will.

Maybe more vanishing picks - I think Cats will trade up - killing off 45, etc.. I suspect the late deal we did with Brisbane was part 1 of this deal. - A few picks between our 55 and 60 will disappear so we won't be trading down our second pick much to move our first pick up a bit.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think it's good Richmond are handing out so many of their famous numbers (assumption based on who's going to the draft).

I don't think it puts pressure on anyone. Easy to live in the past when you have had as much recent success as Richmond. Shows they are moving forward and aren't afraid to give responsibility to the next gen. I don't think putting those numbers on ice and reviling them until someone proves themself "worthy" would be right approach. Lalor as suited to donning the number 4 as anyone.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Zero chance we have made that decision already, anything can happen with draft orders, sliders, pick swaps etc.

I reckon Lalor gets 4 and Smillie 9 at the very least.

 

[sr36]

Apparently Dusty,Cotchin,Rewoldt,Grimes & Astbury are presenting the jumpers to the Tigers draftees tonight so maybe we are only uses 5 picks

If you've got Dusty to come why not wow all the kids with Dusty handing over the jumper. Poor kid that gets Astbury.

 

[PeasFC]

Are you sure?

Clubs always seem to trade out their picks if someone is anticipated to go close to their pick. Eg. Kako and Lombard. Has made me think that trading out after a bid isn't possible.

It is possible but it does dilute your negotiating power. Most clubs like to trade out in advance. This has the added bonus of removing the incentive for people to bid on your player prior to your pick.

 

[sr36]

It is possible but it does dilute your negotiating power. Most clubs like to trade out in advance. This has the added bonus of removing the incentive for people to bid on your player prior to your pick.

Not sure about the added bonus. Nothing is really gained from bidding earlier - unless you're the club trading with them. Eg. if Essendon had've lost from trading a pick into the future cheaper due to a bid - another competing club would have gained from getting that pick cheaper. Or more likely as it's turned out in this draft they would have had a ripping deal lined up beforehand as a contingency.

 

[captain cotch 9]

If you've got Dusty to come why not wow all the kids with Dusty handing over the jumper. Poor kid that gets Astbury.

Only a 3 x premiership player and even better bloke...

 

[sr36]

Only a 3 x premiership player and even better bloke...

Good player and I'm sure he's a good bloke, but a heap of draftees won't recognise him.

 

[giantroo]

Who'll hand over the jumpers?​

In a growing tradition on draft night, club stars will greet their new draftees and hand them their first club guernsey. Here's who will do the honour for your club this year...

Adelaide: Nathan van Berlo
Brisbane: Chris Johnson
Carlton: Lance Whitnall
Essendon: Dustin Fletcher

Dustin Fletcher

Age

49

Ht

198cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

301.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.2

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

2.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

Fremantle: Justin Longmuir
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
GWS: Tom Green
Gold Coast: Jake Rogers
Hawthorn: Jarryd Roughead

Jarryd Roughead

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.3

4star

G

2.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.0

4star

Melbourne: Nathan Jones
North Melbourne: Keith Greig
Port Adelaide: Matthew Primus

Matthew Primus

Age

49

Ht

198cm

Wt

109kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

6.2

4star

HO

16.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.6

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.4

4star

HO

13.8

5star

Richmond: Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

9

Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

, Jack Riewoldt, Dylan Grimes

2

Dylan Grimes

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

, David Astbury

12

David Astbury

Age

33

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

204.2

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

230.8

4star

D

8.4

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

St Kilda: Andrew Thompson, Justin Koschitzke

Justin Koschitzke

Age

42

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

Sydney: Brett Kirk
West Coast: John Worsfold
Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Richmond bringing out their whole side to do the presentations? What's the point choose one.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Richmond bringing out their whole side to do the presentations? What's the point choose one.

Handing over numbers

 

[LB2Snake]

Handing over numbers

Yeah I think you do that at the club on player's first game day vibes

 

[saintmike65]

Only a 3 x premiership player and even better bloke...

A very underrated defender…part of a terrific back 50..

 

[Andy_Mac]

Yeah I think you do that at the club on player's first game day vibes

this is going to be Richmond's grand final day for the next decade. Give them there day in the sun.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Handing over numbers

Watch this go till midnight now

 

[perplexed]

Once a bid is made the matching team can’t trade their next available pick, although they can trade any subsequent or future picks.

E.g. in the 2022 draft Sydney bid on Harry Rowston at pick 16, forcing GWS to match with pick 17, their next available pick. Before placing the bid, Sydney had tried to leverage the rule to get GWS to trade for their pick 16.

That's not right. You can trade out after a bid is made and before matching. In the case you mentioned GWS matched with the next pick rather than trade it because they had two other picks shortly afterwards as well. They were better off matching the bid with the next pick and using the other two on players than trading out all three picks.

 

[Juice030103]

Asked Chat GPT to predict the top 10 of tonight’s draft

As the 2024 AFL Draft approaches tonight, the top 10 selections are anticipated to be:


1. Richmond Tigers: Expected to select Sam Lalor, a powerful midfielder-forward from the GWV Rebels. Lalor has been likened to Dustin Martin for his strength and goal-scoring ability.


2. North Melbourne Kangaroos: Likely to choose Josh Smillie, a versatile 194cm midfielder from the Eastern Ranges. Smillie has drawn comparisons to Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

for his stoppage craft and athleticism.


3. Carlton Blues: Projected to pick Finn O’Sullivan, a well-rounded midfielder from the Oakleigh Chargers. O’Sullivan is noted for his speed, contested play, and kicking ability.


4. Adelaide Crows: Expected to select Sid Draper, a prolific on-baller from South Australia. Draper has impressed with his performances in the SANFL and national championships.


5. Melbourne Demons: Anticipated to choose Jagga Smith, a dynamic midfielder from the Oakleigh Chargers. Smith is known for his clean hands, sidestep, and skills exiting stoppages.


6. Richmond Tigers: With their second pick, Richmond may select Harry Armstrong, a mobile key forward from the Sandringham Dragons. Armstrong has been touted as the best key forward in the pool.


7. St Kilda Saints: Likely to choose Jobe Shanahan, a versatile key position player from Moama. Shanahan has demonstrated strong performances in finals and is known for his exceptional talent and character.


8. St Kilda Saints: With consecutive picks, the Saints may select Matt Whitlock, a 197cm key position player from the Murray Bushrangers. Whitlock has shown incredible ability at both ends of the ground this year.


9. Melbourne Demons: Expected to pick Alixzander Tauru, a high-flying forward from Victoria Country. Tauru is sure to become a fan favourite at the next level.


10. Richmond Tigers: With their third pick in the top 10, Richmond may select Levi Ashcroft, a versatile midfielder-forward from the Sandringham Dragons. Ashcroft is the son of Marcus Ashcroft

Marcus Ashcroft

Age

53

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.4

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

and brother of Will Ashcroft, bringing strong family ties to the club.


What a steal for Richmond at 10


These projections are based on current analyses and may change as teams finalize their decisions.

 

[Donflicted]

Who'll hand over the jumpers?​

In a growing tradition on draft night, club stars will greet their new draftees and hand them their first club guernsey. Here's who will do the honour for your club this year...

Adelaide: Nathan van Berlo
Brisbane: Chris Johnson
Carlton: Lance Whitnall
Essendon: Dustin Fletcher
Fremantle: Justin Longmuir
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
GWS: Tom Green
Gold Coast: Jake Rogers
Hawthorn: Jarryd Roughead
Melbourne: Nathan Jones
North Melbourne: Keith Greig
Port Adelaide: Matthew Primus
Richmond: Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
St Kilda: Andrew Thompson, Justin Koschitzke
Sydney: Brett Kirk
West Coast: John Worsfold
Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis

I just wanted to say thanks for sharing this

 

[banzai]

Any concern about the Lalor, Smilie, Taranto, Hopper midfield mix for the next 5-6 years in such a fast paced/running game now?

But surely we are just starting a rebuild, not finishing it. So Hopper and Taranto are irrelevant there. We aren't expected to win many games the next few years.

 

[LB2Snake]

But surely we are just starting a rebuild, not finishing it. So Hopper and Taranto are irrelevant there. We aren't expected to win many games the next few years.

2 pretty handy types to protect the young blokes....wouldn't worry at all

 

[Obeanie1]

Its very accurate - especially the top 10 - for him not to be given more info that other journo's get. But this looks like his biggest test - if he gets this right then he is 100% getting inside info. Also early picks - the players are told before draft night - that helps getting things out.

If we don't drop back we are taking FOS IMO.

Cal is the AFL rep journalist.

I'd suggest the AFL's appointed journo gets given broad info from clubs just to generate news.

And he talks with people lower down the food chain who work at clubs in recruiting.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Apparently Dusty,Cotchin,Rewoldt,Grimes & Astbury are presenting the jumpers to the Tigers draftees tonight so maybe we are only uses 5 picks

Dusty to give out 3, one for each Norm Smith

 

[Purple Suit]

Cal is the AFL rep journalist.

I'd suggest the AFL's appointed journo gets given broad info from clubs just to generate news.

And he talks with people lower down the food chain who work at clubs in recruiting.

AFL mic'ed negotiations this year to try to stop these sort of deals.

Maybe the AFL feed Cal all the mic'ed up audio of trade negotiations? They are probably wondering if they can get it into trade radio next year.

 

[KurtNeverDied]

Rumour Tigers confident Lalor will be there at 6 and Smillie at 11 so will take Jagga no1.

 

[Andy_Mac]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/11/19/sens-final-2024-afl-phantom-draft

SEN are now just trolling saints fans:

Pick 1. (Richmond) – Sam Lalor
Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Finn O’Sullivan
Pick 3. (Carlton) – Sid Draper
Pick 4. (Brisbane) – Levi Ashcroft
Pick 5. (Adelaide) – Jagga Smith
Pick 6. (Melbourne) – Harvey Langford
Pick 7. (Richmond) – Josh Smillie
Pick 8. (St Kilda) – Harry Armstrong
Pick 9. (St Kilda) – Tobie Travaglia
Pick 10. (Gold Coast) – Leo Lombard
Pick 11. (Melbourne) – Alixzander Tauru
Pick 12. (Richmond) – Jobe Shanahan
Pick 13. (Richmond) – Xavier Lindsay
Pick 14. (West Coast) – Bo Allan
Pick 15. (Port Adelaide) – Murphy Reid
Pick 16. (Fremantle) – Joe Berry
Pick 17. (Essendon) – Isaac Kako
Pick 18. (GWS) – Luke Trainor
Pick 19. (GWS) – Taj Hotton
Pick 20. (Western Bulldogs) – Cooper Hynes
Pick 21. (Richmond) – Jesse Dattoli
Pick 22. (Sydney) – Matt Whitlock
Pick 23. (Richmond) – Jack Whitlock
Pick 24. (GWS) – Tom Gross
Pick 25. (Sydney) – Jonty Faull
Pick 26. (Richmond) – Christian Moraes