EDFL Premier Discussion 2024

[Not Rocket Science]

I don’t why people get enjoyment out of watching clubs, people, whoever fail. With out all clubs the whole system fails. We need Prem Div, Div 1 and Div2 and 3rds and female teams and juniors.

Good on EK for trying to get started for 2025.

I reckon there’s one bloke on here that’s changed his profile several times and now gets off on the failure of the EKFC.

Teams win teams sports, individuals don’t win teams sports.

I’m getting on EDFC, PV and APW to shake things up in 2025.

 

[jontyrohdes]

I don’t why people get enjoyment out of watching clubs, people, whoever fail. With out all clubs the whole system fails. We need Prem Div, Div 1 and Div2 and 3rds and female teams and juniors.

Good on EK for trying to get started for 2025.

I reckon there’s one bloke on here that’s changed his profile several times and now gets off on the failure of the EKFC.

Teams win teams sports, individuals don’t win teams sports.

I’m getting on EDFC, PV and APW to shake things up in 2025.

Well said and he ain’t fooling anyone

 

[1st time long time]

Pascoe Vale throwing money at Sam Weideman, Brayden Pruess and are in communication against Strathmore for Caleb Marchbanks signature. Looking to replace the Watson sized hole.

Vavra also a no show at the BNF. Expect him to be looking at offers elsewhere. Few division 2 Eastern sides throwing big sign on fee offers towards the the Griff’s ruckman.

West Coburg in talks with Digby Morrell as they look at get over the hump.

Given Pacco have points issues and they've also lost a few 1 point players its almost certain they cant fit in even 2 of those bokes.

 

[Survey]

I don’t why people get enjoyment out of watching clubs, people, whoever fail. With out all clubs the whole system fails. We need Prem Div, Div 1 and Div2 and 3rds and female teams and juniors.

Good on EK for trying to get started for 2025.

I reckon there’s one bloke on here that’s changed his profile several times and now gets off on the failure of the EKFC.

Teams win teams sports, individuals don’t win teams sports.

I’m getting on EDFC, PV and APW to shake things up in 2025.

Let's hope so because the Comp has been dull and boring last 10 years due to the dominance of 3 teams!

 

[ChaosMail]

Chatfield full time at DP is huge, seen him play a handful of times now. Gun. Kind of don’t blame him, if you are not going to get drafted what’s the point of playing VFL when local is 4x the pay and footy is only a short term thing. You would think the second highest level of competition would still pay decent like it does at college level in US for example

 

[BlueJet]

Chatfield full time at DP is huge, seen him play a handful of times now. Gun. Kind of don’t blame him, if you are not going to get drafted what’s the point of playing VFL when local is 4x the pay and footy is only a short term thing. You would think the second highest level of competition would still pay decent like it does at college level in US for example

I know him well, he's a great pick-up for Deer Park & will no doubt be well compensated for his time.

 

[lekshuuu]

Chatfield full time at DP is huge, seen him play a handful of times now. Gun. Kind of don’t blame him, if you are not going to get drafted what’s the point of playing VFL when local is 4x the pay and footy is only a short term thing. You would think the second highest level of competition would still pay decent like it does at college level in US for example

What would be the average vfl wage be? Anyone know? Genuinely curious


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[ChaosMail]

What would be the average vfl wage be? Anyone know? Genuinely curious


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$200-$250. $300 if your taking the piss.

Not even worth getting injured for that if you ask me especially if these players are tradies. For the second highest competition its embarrassing.

 

[lekshuuu]

$200-$250. $300 if your taking the piss.

Not even worth getting injured for that if you ask me especially if these players are tradies. For the second highest competition its embarrassing.

Yeah that’s nothing, add the fact there are teams not in vic as well. So travel too. Would want to hope flights are paid for..


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[Bunk Moreland]

Chatfield full time at DP is huge, seen him play a handful of times now. Gun. Kind of don’t blame him, if you are not going to get drafted what’s the point of playing VFL when local is 4x the pay and footy is only a short term thing. You would think the second highest level of competition would still pay decent like it does at college level in US for example

The league is definitely centred around being AFL-listed players and young blokes out of the U18s looking to get drafted. There’s not many others playing in it.

There are a few, some guys are genuinely competitive types who get off on playing the best possible standard and competing, so they do that instead of playing with mates or cash. Good luck to them but if you’re not that driven, the VFL doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Most of the younger guys last a few years, it takes it a while to get out of their system that they’re not being drafted and don’t have an AFL future. A lot of these kids have been superstar juniors and have had people (sometimes incl their parents) pissing in their ear for ten years telling them they’re going to be AFL players. So obviously it takes a while for them to get back to reality and it’s often not even their own fault, it’s just the expectations they’ve grown up with.

 

[mores]

Yeah that’s nothing, add the fact there are teams not in vic as well. So travel too. Would want to hope flights are paid for..


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You don't honestly think they pay for flights interstate.

 

[ChaosMail]

Yeah that’s nothing, add the fact there are teams not in vic as well. So travel too. Would want to hope flights are paid for..


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Yeah the travel is paid for, as it should be. But still 2nd tier level in europe for soccer and america for all their sports is enough to be a full time job... VFL cant pay for groceries.

 

[Coach_Beard]

chaos you are spot on. VFL players getting massive unders compared to what some ordinary local level guys can get. unsure what the answer is but as long as our comp and others continue to have many players on 4 figure sums per game the vfl will continue to struggle to attract the calibre of player it should.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

lol you raise a good point…

Wouldn't want to drop one of those. They cost a sh1tload of money to win.

 

[ROOS77]

Correct
Werribee Districts have a chance now we are gone .... Heavily backed favorite and failed to get over the line in the granny .... Is that great culture ? Or W.A.P

Winning premiership cups and drinking out of them can slap me in the face all day long .....

Weren't you locked up for the last three ?

 

[Turbos mail]

chaos you are spot on. VFL players getting massive unders compared to what some ordinary local level guys can get. unsure what the answer is but as long as our comp and others continue to have many players on 4 figure sums per game the vfl will continue to struggle to attract the calibre of player it should.

Because VFL stay within the cap that’s the main reason there is more $$ in local.. wake up everyone

 

[ChaosMail]

Because VFL stay within the cap that’s the main reason there is more $$ in local.. wake up everyone

Doesn’t change my point, second biggest comp needs a higher cap then lol

 

[chickenonachain]

It’s simple play more games in the vfl than at your local club you should be ineligible to play for your local club.

 

[BlueJet]

Correct
Werribee Districts have a chance now we are gone .... Heavily backed favorite and failed to get over the line in the granny .... Is that great culture ? Or W.A.P

Winning premiership cups and drinking out of them can slap me in the face all day long .....

What number did you wear?

 

[Indian336]

Doesn’t change my point, second biggest comp needs a higher cap then lol

From the VFL Website,

The VFL salary cap is as follows:
VFL Stand Alone Clubs $220,000 Total
AFL Aligned Clubs $110,000 Total

VFL Stand Alone lists are 28 Primary Players
12 Development Players
Total 40 Players

AFL Aligned Lists are 15 Primary Players
15 Development Players
Total 30 Players

23rd Player must be Under 23 in each game

VFL must have 6 Players Under22 in each game

AFL must have 7 Players Under 22 in each Game

 

[1st time long time]

Why are so many players leaving/unhappy at Pacco? Have just seen on social media that a young kid who has won the past 2 league BnF's has signed at Hillside! Also heard 2 assistant coaches have left also. All seems very strange considering they played in a GF only a month ago.

 

[Survey]

Why are so many players leaving/unhappy at Pacco? Have just seen on social media that a young kid who has won the past 2 league BnF's has signed at Hillside! Also heard 2 assistant coaches have left also. All seems very strange considering they played in a GF only a month ago.

Maybe the right question is why would a young player who has just won 2 x comp b&f's in u/18 decide to play B Grade instead of A Grade? Maybe this player doesn't have what it takes to test himself in the Premier Comp and has taken the easier(B Grade) option? Searching further maybe Pacco have fallen short over the past 5 years(spending Big and heavily resourced) because the Club doesn't have the killer instinct required to be a winner and the only way to change that is to weed out individuals who constantly take the easy way out?

 

[1st time long time]

Maybe the right question is why would a young player who has just won 2 x comp b&f's in u/18 decide to play B Grade instead of A Grade? Maybe this player doesn't have what it takes to test himself in the Premier Comp and has taken the easier(B Grade) option? Searching further maybe Pacco have fallen short over the past 5 years(spending Big and heavily resourced) because the Club doesn't have the killer instinct required to be a winner and the only way to change that is to weed out individuals who constantly take the easy way out?

All fair points!

Feels like they'll be taking a big step backwards to go forwards. Hard to replace players they've lost (at low points).

 

[BoyFromBush]

Maybe the right question is why would a young player who has just won 2 x comp b&f's in u/18 decide to play B Grade instead of A Grade? Maybe this player doesn't have what it takes to test himself in the Premier Comp and has taken the easier(B Grade) option? Searching further maybe Pacco have fallen short over the past 5 years(spending Big and heavily resourced) because the Club doesn't have the killer instinct required to be a winner and the only way to change that is to weed out individuals who constantly take the easy way out?

Maybe because his uncle is the coach of Hillside and wants to play under him

 

[Survey]

Maybe because his uncle is the coach of Hillside and wants to play under him

You'd think his Uncle would do what's best for the kid and encourage him to play at the highest level he could?