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It's a marathon not a sprint, Strathmore have been a good team for a long time they will bounce back this week with a small win
watch it all
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Your only as good as your last performance they say. People will jump back on once they win a game or two. I don't think it will be this week though. Everyone is on the EDS wagon at the minute and people will start jumping off as quickly as they jumped on if Abers beat them this week.
Greenvale by 40
Abers by 18 ( should be a cracking game!)
Pacco by 60 ( need to do it to get Turbo excited again)
Keillor by plenty
Marby by 45
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Did they many out last week hotdogs? If so you're obviously expecting a few back as form says they don't win.
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Not writing them off Jet just saying a possible 0-3 makes it tough in a very competitive comp as it seems thats the case in 2016 if round 1 is anything to go by
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Why did riemers not play and kefford play 2s
You'd think they would be back this week?
You'd think they would be back this week?
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Of course - it's good to see games turning up unexpected winners, I was as much talking the predicted margins for the game at Section rd though. I'd be surprised if the Jets gave them a touch up.
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I watched the game last week as an EDS supporter and they had a few out last week from what I could tell - May, O'Keefe, Tighe and Leech. They have more recruits that are not available yet ? Rae and Knight played in the reserves.
EDS were missing Hughes, Eagles and Kovac
so don't think Strathmore can use that excuse. I think most sides would be missing 2-3 at least every week.
I don't think anyone is righting them off but how do you tip them against Greenvale at Greenvale ? Maybe the hardest trip in the EDFL. Mores were very good on Good Friday and could have won the game with more luck. On Saturday they looked slow against a very quick outfit.
McIntosh not having the impact most would have expected, EDS had 2 makeshift rucks against him (Clarke & Ronaldson). McIntosh would have won 80% of hit outs but the clearance numbers would have been heavily in EDS' favour. Iaccobuccci, Lyons and Arrowsmith all look a long way off the best football and peak fitness!
It's round 1 and lots of football ahead. I've seen this over decades at EDS where they have an outstanding performance and the whole club - players, supporters, committee etc. all get way ahead of themselves. Very interesting to see how they back up against Abers coming off a big loss, I expect Abers to win but hoping EDS put in a strong effort and give them a nudge.
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Don't think McIntosh is completely over his injuries from AFL and probably will always hamper him. He looked very sore after the Keilor match and wasn't moving all that well post match. Tighe going down was a huge loss after losing some talls in the off season. Hard to replace someone like Tighe in metro footy. He was playing very well against Keilor until injured. Yes Keilor had injuries to some good players but his was a telling injury. But Keilor deserved their win..Micky got them home again from the coaches box..
As I stated in the past I think Strathmore need leg speed on the outside. Arrowsmith, Iaccobucci, May etc are still valuable players but don't have leg speed any longer. They need to inject some pace. Surely there are kids to fill these roles as don't they supposedly have one of the best junior programs through Strathmore high?? I guess it's going to take some courageous decisions, but think the time has come to mix some "more" youth with experience.
I guess Pacco are also in a similar position however there junior talent is not as strong as Strathmore's so it's more challenging. Or am I wrong and Strathmore's junior talent is not as strong as I think.
So it's this reason I become extremely frustrated with the AFL implementing the points system without looking firstly at how they can improve the junior standard off 16s & 18s to make it more competitive and even. Even invest in facilities to make it more even across the board. Things like clubs 2nd grounds is a good example. Keilor got a 2nd oval at Green Gully and new rooms installed there. Don't Abers use the old Ascot Vale ground? Strathmore use Cross Keys?? Greenvale have 2 grounds..
But what about others??
So invest $$ and time into these areas rather than be consumed with player points and salary caps..
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Apparently he's been crook.
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The exact same thing can be said for clubs,
I'm not sure why the league or footy vic should be expected to foot the bill for facilities when clubs are often more interested in handing out sign on fees than investing in their own youth.
Why so serious
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Mail is he was going to play 2's anyway as he didn't meet potters fitness expectations
How was Potter's coaching on Saturday
Last year he was hailed as a genius, but was never under the pump, never tested, given an arm chair ride. Sounds like he didn't produce too many genius moves Saturday. Pound for Pound , Abers should never get beaten by Marby by 10 goals
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Interesting that the clubs you mention are ones with a strong junior presence and multiple teams in the various age groups. To get multiple grounds you need multiple teams so it becomes the chicken and the egg scenario. The league has tried hard to grade sides to ensure even competitions but the clubs need to show a willingness to want to develop their own junior programs. Sydenham Hillside is rapidly becoming a power in the junior ranks because they have a good pool to draw from and want to develop. Others in the lower grades are so focussed on the seniors that it is at the expense of the juniors. The points system is about trying to get clubs to develop their juniors and invest in facilities to draw more people to the club rather than spending big on importing players to buy a flag for a year and then have the players disperse the following year. Having said that a premiership bought or not, attracts junior players as well so what do you do?
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Yeah mate your right. With regards to these so called big clubs it might be a case of who you know, where your situated or maybe how much you sling someone.
Let me give you a great example. Keilor facilities are pretty good. Let's just focus on the car park and ground. Car park always in good condition and they fix things straight away. Always sprinklers operating even in drought times.
NOW go down the road 5 mins to Keilor Park. Car park not as good and if your car is lowered look out for the concrete pins pulling your front end off... Ground still ok but nowhere like Keilor.
Why is that? Because they are next to council offices and on a popular road in a housing area.. Council go and fix Keilor immediately but Keilor Park can just suck it up.. This has been the case for years, so where will undecided parents go? So it's not an even playing field in some situations.
In reply to Marby they have built their junior program on the back of senior success so full credit to those people involved. They were struggling big time prior, with Abers close by, but have worked hard and now have multiple junior teams and they are going well. GA's can look back and think his investment has seen some great long term benefits.. They are probably in a better position than when they won their flags..But hey, what do I know about Marby..
Strathmore have revamped their junior setup in the last couple of years lead by Scott West. Last year their U10 Div 1 and U12 Div 1 were easily the best crop and their U14 Div 1 lost the decider by 4 goals. This year the talent rises to the 16s with record numbers there so the future looks good from U16 down. That said, these boys are still a few years ago from filtering into the seniors.
This U18s group has been strangely undersized all the way through and under no illusions how tough it will be for them this year and next. Still some excellent players in the group but not the vast number of rep players that exist in the 12-15yo group.
The seniors have been disappointing this season to date. Pretty good without winning on Good Friday and poor after quarter time against a quality EDS outfit. I'd like to think that was an aberration but time will tell.
Strathmore second ground is Boeing and there is no affiliation with Strathmore High.
Cheers
And Gourdis was not a telling loss? Keilor's leading goalkicker last season, went of within the first 10 minutes of the second quarter, had 2 goals by that stage and Strathmore did not have answer for his style of play. Has played AFL. Come on! At a minimum, the two losses neutralised each. Then Keilor lose two more before half time?????
What a load of bull****! For a guy that purports to be the pillar of knowledge on all things pertaining to EDFL you post some crap. Are you aware of the lease/licensing agreements in place between clubs and Brimbank council? There are KPI's to be met by council, they cannot pick and choose who they service and who they ignore. Did you consider that one of Brimbank council's maintenance facilities is directly across the road from the KP oval? Another generalisation without a smattering of hard evidence to support a thought bubble!
Could it be the aging demographic of KP? Could it be that the KP primary school closed some years ago and they do not have as many kids in the area? Could it be that there is no prospect for residential growth in the KP pocket, no new families coming in? Could it be that the location of the KP oval is a in a bad spot, windy in summer, windy and freezing cold in winter? If you remember, Strathmore refused to continue a game there about 10 years ago, walked at 3/4 qtr time, too damn cold!
No it is because the Keilor ground is right next door to a partially occupied council office that has nothing to do with sporting clubs or maintenance. Good one Turbo, really well thought out. Nearly on a par with your dumb statement last year about ex AFL being "rich" not seeking big money to play locally.
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I think you both have valid points in one aspect but and are both wrong in another.
KP ground is in a crap location
KP drawing power from their area is crap. There no young families there hence why they shared teams with East Kielor
KP having he maintenance depot across the road irrelevant as doesn't mean they get any benefit
Kielor being next to council offices is irrelevant as it also doesn't mean they get preferential treatment due to location.
Councils having KPI's is true but there is a correlation to the numbers of people using the services of a location and the relationship the club has with the council.
Now hear me out here. Kielor has a very strong junior program with 3-4 junior sides in each age group paying membership. They have a strong sponsorship and presence in Premier so are a highly visible club. When they go to the council and want to improve things and tip in money towards projects themselves it goes a long way to being approved because lots of people go there. If KP go there and ask for the same thing fully funded because they have 2 joggers and a lady walking a dog of course it won't get prioritised. ( sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone at KP, just trying to highlight difference in size. I am sure you are trying your best in a difficult location. The area is the area so you can only do so much)
I know sporting clubs that do get a lot from councils but they are also the ones that are prepared to put in a lot themselves and have the foot traffic and presence to be heard.
Deefer4 and Turbo, have you two thought about couples therapy?
Have any of you guys been out to Keilor Park lately?
They probably have one of the best surface grounds in the whole competition.
They have multiple grounds in good condition.
They have great lights which allow them to play night games.
To me seems they are doing ok.
Probably want to fix both teams having to share showers after the games.
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I was there last year as my sons team played there. I didn't think the facilities were that bad. I was responding more to the discussion about favouritism from councils. You have to admit it is a bloody cold and windy place though.
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No ground has the ability to play night footy. If club think they do then they are kidding themselves.
Look at Greenvale they probably have the best lights in the North West Suburbs with 10-15 lights on there 4 towers but they don't play night football cause they are aware that there lights are up to standard for senior football
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Gourdis was playing well and is a damn good player. I'm not saying Keilor didn't deserve to win but Tighe was very influential until his injury, and McIntosh was looking damaging up forward with his height. Anyway we move on as Keilor got the 4 points and seem to be flying at ATM.
You can go on all you like, but when comparing clubs yours has been favoured for years going back to when both clubs were in A Grade. Yes closing the school, housing and the location are an issue but gee that council jumps quick for 1 club. But hey maybe someone new is in charge now and seeing further than 500mts.
It was only a few years back when this club was hoping the other club would fall over so they could take over their ground and use it as a junior set up. Oh no I'm wrong again.. Spare me.. I'm maybe more inside than outside.. I'm off now to drink my coffee from the village. Give me a wave if your close by. I'm wearing a navy suit..
To other posters, your correct in that the KP surface is now in great nick but agree the change room set up needs to be looked at. The rooms there haven't changed in over 15 years besides volunteers upkeep inside. Oh they did build the shelter.. Lol Massive investment into the basketball stadium but the footy club could do with new rooms so when it's cold you could watch from inside the rooms.
PS: Deefer has set up his account to alarm him when Keilor is mentioned. Gee his touchy..Love stirring him up every so often just to ensure his alive & well..
Keilors #1 ticket holder - Deefer.
No pressure, never under the pump - what about a 41 year premiership drought!!
Premiers & Champions in your first year is impressive regardless of how you look at it. The last team to that was Greenvale in 07 wasn't it?
Pottsy has been nothing but a fantastic coach of our footy club and his work off field although unheralded at times is first class!
