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Johndoe said:
Clubs have to be a lot shrewder in who they target. Points and $ cap make it hard to bring in 6 - 7 players in the one hit (unless you lose quite a few). I'd suggest the clubs that finished in the top 7 last year would think they have the nucleus of a good base and would be targeting specific players where they feel they are deficient.

I did hear a couple of weeks ago that Keilor, Marby & Douttas were confident of re-signing the majority of their lists. They all obviously have to top up in different ways but i couldn't imagine that the $ cap or points would allow them to bring in 8 new players (unless they shed some). This will become the norm as there will now be more emphasis on retaining current lists. You'd imagine most clubs would be taking a similar route.

What you will also start to find is that clubs will now regain control from the players. Players will eventually find the offer to jump clubs will become less frequent and clubs will be back in the drivers seat as to what they offer players. The players will have less bargaining power - A lot less of "Club X down the road is offering me Y, you need to match it or i'm off"
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Yes I agree somewhat but remember players also know the clubs need to retain players to reduce points so do they have the upper hand in some way. I guess it's more if a player is a 1 or 2 pointer can the club allow them to go.. Interesting one!!
 
Turbos mail said:
Yes I agree somewhat but remember players also know the clubs need to retain players to reduce points so do they have the upper hand in some way. I guess it's more if a player is a 1 or 2 pointer can the club allow them to go.. Interesting one!!
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That's true to a degree, but if clubs have had success or players genuinely can see the club is heading somewhere & players enjoy the environment they won't hold the club to ransom.

I'll use Michael Ross as an example, hes been at Paco now for 3 years, down to 1 point next year. He would be a 4 - 5 point player at another club next season (depending on where he went) Not many clubs would be banging the door to get him in. He's a good player but for a club competing for a flag in a top division that would be difficult to justify. You can get an ex VFL senior player in for 5 or ex AFL for 6. Ross could try and play hard ball with Paco but Paco hold the upper hand. If Ross could see Paco looked like having some success why wouldn't he just stay for a fair and reasonable contract? The answer is he would and Paco would wrap that up pretty quickly

Unless there's other offers on the table the club holds the upper hand. The majority of players will find their list of potential suitors diminish quite quickly. For the top end no doubt they will still field calls trying to get them to move. I reckon this will be one of the quieter years of player movement this comp will have ever seen
 

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Ok gentlen the truth about Aberfeldie: Potters management of players throughout the season was discussing as displayed in the last dance, playes playerd without form for months yet the coach continued to ignor external noise. He failed to change up the line up evern when assistent coaches questioned the structures when they Cleary weren't working. Player payments are the other issue, gun players not receiving payment since round 2, yes truth talk at mad Monday topics, yes players on the move. Already Johns, Cubilo, others to follow Fev to the BFL next year.
 
Blue and yellow said:
Ok gentlen the truth about Aberfeldie: Potters management of players throughout the season was discussing as displayed in the last dance, playes playerd without form for months yet the coach continued to ignor external noise. He failed to change up the line up evern when assistent coaches questioned the structures when they Cleary weren't working. Player payments are the other issue, gun players not receiving payment since round 2, yes truth talk at mad Monday topics, yes players on the move. Already Johns, Cubilo, others to follow Fev to the BFL next year.
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that's huge news!
 

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Blue and yellow said:
Ok gentlen the truth about Aberfeldie: Potters management of players throughout the season was discussing as displayed in the last dance, playes playerd without form for months yet the coach continued to ignor external noise. He failed to change up the line up evern when assistent coaches questioned the structures when they Cleary weren't working. Player payments are the other issue, gun players not receiving payment since round 2, yes truth talk at mad Monday topics, yes players on the move. Already Johns, Cubilo, others to follow Fev to the BFL next year.
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Interesting Puff or anyone hasn't refuted these claims. I'm a little inclined to hold on this one, as we don't know what was stipulated in contracts etc. Not to mention most clubs paying out on presentation night. Which could be the case.
I will say this though (in my opinion) if true then the whole committee must fall on their sword. also if Potter knew of this then he must go as well. From what I understand there are a lot of decent people at that club and don't deserve to be tarnished by others incompetence.
 
If players were not being paid, then i would say Potter did a pretty good job to hold it all together and get them to a grand final. Every coach would have some players question tactics and no doubt there would be some huge ego's at Abers that think they know best.
 
Should Abers follow in the footsteps of Keilor or even Douttas and try and develop players over the next few years and just top up where needed?
Keilor had this really good core group of juniors and guys who were there for 5 years or so and obviously added class with the likes of Browne and Galea. I feel as though Abers have done what they needed to do to get that long overdue premiership, they got in one of the best lists the EDFL has seen and kudos to them, but now they seem to have lost some direction and backbone. Especially watching the GF, it seemed as if no one really cared... Next year should they clear out some of the mercenaries, and look at developing all their under 18 premiership successes, or bring back those who have moved on to AFL, VFL, VAFA, NFL, WRFL etc. Obviously there are areas that clubs need to top up with outside players and this is healthy, but they have had such an under-utilised junior base, which would solve a lot of point problems and salary cap issues, as generally homegrowns accept lower pay packets.
 
Blue and yellow said:
Ok gentlen the truth about Aberfeldie: Potters management of players throughout the season was discussing as displayed in the last dance, playes playerd without form for months yet the coach continued to ignor external noise. He failed to change up the line up evern when assistent coaches questioned the structures when they Cleary weren't working. Player payments are the other issue, gun players not receiving payment since round 2, yes truth talk at mad Monday topics, yes players on the move. Already Johns, Cubilo, others to follow Fev to the BFL next year.
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Horrendous post!!

All is well at Abers. Really disappointing end to another strong season and beaten by the better team on the most important day!

Onwards and upwards for 2017!!
 
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bsddbsfbfd said:
Should Abers follow in the footsteps of Keilor or even Douttas and try and develop players over the next few years and just top up where needed?
Keilor had this really good core group of juniors and guys who were there for 5 years or so and obviously added class with the likes of Browne and Galea. I feel as though Abers have done what they needed to do to get that long overdue premiership, they got in one of the best lists the EDFL has seen and kudos to them, but now they seem to have lost some direction and backbone. Especially watching the GF, it seemed as if no one really cared... Next year should they clear out some of the mercenaries, and look at developing all their under 18 premiership successes, or bring back those who have moved on to AFL, VFL, VAFA, NFL, WRFL etc. Obviously there are areas that clubs need to top up with outside players and this is healthy, but they have had such an under-utilised junior base, which would solve a lot of point problems and salary cap issues, as generally homegrowns accept lower pay packets.
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Do some genuine analysis on our list and the development of our own players is evident.
 
Eagles reappointed budgen well deserved apart from speculation only losses thus far are clokes and a couple of twos players. With an extra $100k freed up will be interesting to see their recruiting ovee next month.
 
Willow76 said:
Eagles reappointed budgen well deserved apart from speculation only losses thus far are clokes and a couple of twos players. With an extra $100k freed up will be interesting to see their recruiting ovee next month.
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Maybe not a 100k freed up with Salary cap coming in. But that's all speculation. Still sounds a bit messy Willo as usually coaches/commitee are re contracting players during end of season or straight after. So who was meeting with players as if Budgen wasn't happy he wouldn't have been calling players.
So who's President?
Interesting next few months at the Eagle nest..Believe Page is still headed for NFL.
 
Anyone know or heard of what is happening with Matt Vasilevski? Talk of him going to Thomastown to play Div 2 NFL.
 
2017 will be interesting especially to see how Abers go without their star studded midfield. Patak Spotty, McLean overseas, Blackwell to begin coaching in another metro comp and Lynch heading back up north. How will Potts go coaching a salary cap of 250K? Now im not sure if Fred from the fish shop is pulling my leg but the rumour wheel is gathering momentum and it all revolves around the poor old treasurer anything to add Turbo?
 
Outbackhack37 said:
2017 will be interesting especially to see how Abers go without their star studded midfield. Patak Spotty, McLean overseas, Blackwell to begin coaching in another metro comp and Lynch heading back up north. How will Potts go coaching a salary cap of 250K? Now im not sure if Fred from the fish shop is pulling my leg but the rumour wheel is gathering momentum and it all revolves around the poor old treasurer anything to add Turbo?
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I also have heard things regarding this issue but Prefer to stay out of club business when it comes to this stuff regarding total spenditure. You know PuffPuff will jump all over me.

I did think something like these rumours would ultimately happen with the way some clubs just fork out $$ way above what a players value actually is. I'm hearing a big club (not Abers) are doing a similar thing again and going higher than what they spent in 2016 with 3 big recruits. Even with the salary cap. Could they be the first to be caught by AFL vic.
 
Turbos mail said:
I also have heard things regarding this issue but Prefer to stay out of club business when it comes to this stuff regarding total spenditure. You know PuffPuff will jump all over me.

I did think something like these rumours would ultimately happen with the way some clubs just fork out $$ way above what a players value actually is. I'm hearing a big club (not Abers) are doing a similar thing again and going higher than what they spent in 2016 with 3 big recruits. Even with the salary cap. Could they be the first to be caught by AFL vic.
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Does anyone know or really believe that a salary cap could be policed? The Ammos have a salary cap. Does anyone believe that no one gets cash in ammos? When was the last time an ammo club was done for paying players? The points system will be the real leveller, salary cap is just lip service.
 

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