EDFL Premier Division

[KeepItSimple]

Not one of the new recruits for Pascoe Vale have had any success in their careers, why would 2015 be any different?

I agree!

Pascoe Vale should pass on:

• Ben Ross 26 Years Old, Pick Number 3 in the country in 2007 Draft, Liston Trophy Winner 2012. Just had a year training & learning with the AFL 2014 Premiers. No Good I reckon
• Ben Warren 25 Years Old, 29 AFL Games (Dean Galea 0) Top 3 Goal Kicker in VFL for the last 3 years. Not up to it I reckon.
• Gavin Urchardt 26 Years Old, Drafted 21 in 2006 National Draft, Voted NAB Rising Star Round 18 as a 20 year old in his first year, Equal Third in Comp Premier Division Comp Medal 2014 was equal lead going into the last round. Don't think he can make it as a regular 1's player.
• Daniel Harris 160 AFL games, pick 14 in the National Draft, Top 10 Tackler in the AFL in multiple seasons, Number 1 Rookie Draft for Gold Coast in 2010 for leadership qualities. Average credentials definitely has lacked success as a footballer.
• Adam Contessa 43 AFL games (Todd Grima 0), Head Coach of EDFL B Grade Flag, First year in A Grade coached to a Pre Lim. Clearly no leadership skills or track record PASS.

For the record I think both Todd Grima & Dean Galea are both fantastic footballers and go around better than 99.9% of us mugs on this forum!
But technically they aren't very successful footballers so I reckon Strathmore & Avondale should delist them both, I agree.
Can anyone pass on their phone numbers for me when they get delisted, they might want to join the other unsuccessful hacks at Pascoe Vale.
The reality is Pascoe Vale will just try and be competitive in 2015 and surely this helps them do that?
Keep It Simple Pious is my motto )

 

[The Good Oil]

Not one of the new recruits for Pascoe Vale have had any success in their careers, why would 2015 be any different?

That would have to be one of the dumbest posts ever , we are all dumber for having read it.

 

[Stax on the mill]

I agree!

Pascoe Vale should pass on:

• Ben Ross 26 Years Old, Pick Number 3 in the country in 2007 Draft, Liston Trophy Winner 2012. Just had a year training & learning with the AFL 2014 Premiers. No Good I reckon
• Ben Warren 25 Years Old, 29 AFL Games (Dean Galea 0) Top 3 Goal Kicker in VFL for the last 3 years. Not up to it I reckon.
• Gavin Urchardt 26 Years Old, Drafted 21 in 2006 National Draft, Voted NAB Rising Star Round 18 as a 20 year old in his first year, Equal Third in Comp Premier Division Comp Medal 2014 was equal lead going into the last round. Don't think he can make it as a regular 1's player.
• Daniel Harris 160 AFL games, pick 14 in the National Draft, Top 10 Tackler in the AFL in multiple seasons, Number 1 Rookie Draft for Gold Coast in 2010 for leadership qualities. Average credentials definitely has lacked success as a footballer.
• Adam Contessa 43 AFL games (Todd Grima 0), Head Coach of EDFL B Grade Flag, First year in A Grade coached to a Pre Lim. Clearly no leadership skills or track record PASS.

For the record I think both Todd Grima & Dean Galea are both fantastic footballers and go around better than 99.9% of us mugs on this forum!
But technically they aren't very successful footballers so I reckon Strathmore & Avondale should delist them both, I agree.
Can anyone pass on their phone numbers for me when they get delisted, they might want to join the other unsuccessful hacks at Pascoe Vale.
The reality is Pascoe Vale will just try and be competitive in 2015 and surely this helps them do that?
Keep It Simple Pious is my motto )

Pretty handy first post.

 

[KeepItSimple]

Pretty handy first post.

Thanks Stax. It wasn't hard, that comment was so stupid it motivated me to create an account and comment after 5 years of only ever reading this forum

 

[BlueJet]

I agree!

Pascoe Vale should pass on:

• Ben Ross 26 Years Old, Pick Number 3 in the country in 2007 Draft, Liston Trophy Winner 2012. Just had a year training & learning with the AFL 2014 Premiers. No Good I reckon
• Ben Warren 25 Years Old, 29 AFL Games (Dean Galea 0) Top 3 Goal Kicker in VFL for the last 3 years. Not up to it I reckon.
• Gavin Urchardt 26 Years Old, Drafted 21 in 2006 National Draft, Voted NAB Rising Star Round 18 as a 20 year old in his first year, Equal Third in Comp Premier Division Comp Medal 2014 was equal lead going into the last round. Don't think he can make it as a regular 1's player.
• Daniel Harris 160 AFL games, pick 14 in the National Draft, Top 10 Tackler in the AFL in multiple seasons, Number 1 Rookie Draft for Gold Coast in 2010 for leadership qualities. Average credentials definitely has lacked success as a footballer.
• Adam Contessa 43 AFL games (Todd Grima 0), Head Coach of EDFL B Grade Flag, First year in A Grade coached to a Pre Lim. Clearly no leadership skills or track record PASS.

For the record I think both Todd Grima & Dean Galea are both fantastic footballers and go around better than 99.9% of us mugs on this forum!
But technically they aren't very successful footballers so I reckon Strathmore & Avondale should delist them both, I agree.
Can anyone pass on their phone numbers for me when they get delisted, they might want to join the other unsuccessful hacks at Pascoe Vale.
The reality is Pascoe Vale will just try and be competitive in 2015 and surely this helps them do that?
Keep It Simple Pious is my motto )

Good way to shut people up.
Good on Paco for having a crack.

 

[give it a go]

Hey keep it simple have you played footy . why I can tell that you might not off played is by you stupid comments wee dont want to read shit must of tkaen you 4 days to came up with that

 

[Stax on the mill]

Hey keep it simple have you played footy . why I can tell that you might not off played is by you stupid comments wee dont want to read shit must of tkaen you 4 days to came up with that

At least KeepItSimple gave rational reasons for his opinions, unlike yourself. Comments such as " have you played footy"' "stupid comments" and "don't want to read shit" don't cut it as intelligent reasons for disagreeing with him. You'll have to do a bit better than that.

 

[KeepItSimple]

Hey keep it simple have you played footy . why I can tell that you might not off played is by you stupid comments wee dont want to read shit must of tkaen you 4 days to came up with that

Hi there give it a go!

I just spent an hour and a half typing up a response to your post and I was about to hit Post Reply but just as I was, a thought popped into my head.

Responding to you my friend is what you call a "Phrrhic Victory", so I won't ........................

I suspect Google might get a touch up from give it a go.

Another thing that tickled my fancy with your post is how it created what you call an "Oxymoron", now stop swearing give it a go I'm not calling you a moron!, it means your Name give it a go suggests that your the type of person who likes to give an opinion or person a go? I might be wrong but your post sounded a little like an illiterate rant? I could be wrong though I'm all new to this English language stuff.

Its OK give it a go, don't worry this will all be over soon, lie down, have a beer and no one will ever know you posted that response, it's just between you and me!

 

[BlueJet]

Hi there give it a go!

I just spent an hour and a half typing up a response to your post and I was about to hit Post Reply but just as I was, a thought popped into my head.

Responding to you my friend is what you call a "Pyrrhic victory", so I won't ........................

I suspect Google might get a touch up from give it a go.

Another thing that tickled my fancy with your post is how it created what you call an "Oxymoron", now stop swearing give it a go I'm not calling you a moron!, it means your Name give it a go suggests that your the type of person who likes to give an opinion or person a go? I might be wrong but your post sounded a little like an illiterate rant? I could be wrong though I'm all new to this English language stuff.

Its OK give it a go, don't worry this will all be over soon, lie down, have a beer and no one will ever know you posted that response, it's just between you and me!

This came to mind..

 

[KeepItSimple]

This came to mind..

Gold !

 

[Shadow Master]

Up here in dairy country the word going around the sherminator wants $60,000

Coach in waiting! Justin Sherman has reportedly been offered the role of captain/coach of the Kyabram Football Club in the Goulburn Valley Football League. It's his job to accept or decline!

 

[KeepItSimple]

Coach in waiting! Justin Sherman has reportedly been offered the role of captain/coach of the Kyabram Football Club in the Goulburn Valley Football League. It's his job to accept or decline!

Good Call!

One slight hitch as the rumour goes is that Kyabram & Pascoe Vale FC both got a shock as late as last week, it turns out Rochester & Mansfield were on Justin's shopping list, the only problem was he didn't tell any of them he was in the middle of a 2 year contract and had accepted big $ sign ons and help with medical expenses from Pascoe Vale.

The PR train at Ky ground to a halt under intrigue and confusion, lets just say there are a few unhappy campers all round and hardly a done deal.

Looks like Justin sold the candy one too many times, so to speak

Although once the grown ups took over, level heads will see it resolved.

As usual in these situations two sets of good people volunteering administrators at both clubs get stuck in the middle of a selfish ex AFL Player thinking that the rules don't apply to them.

Granted it is a bit of a shock for those boys coming out of the AFL system but ethics and common-sense come from within, even if maturity is yet to make its presence known!

All the best to all parties including Justin Sherman, onwards and upwards for all concerned.

Apparently Pascoe Vale and Kyabram have a regular pre season practice match, they will be selling tickets to that one.

 

[KeepItSimple]

Rumour Luke Blackwell ex Carlton mid, equal most decorated player for Claremont FC in the WAFL is coming to Melbourne and is a toss up between Abers & Keilor. Apparently he has ties at both clubs, go hard boys, get out your wallets there could be a Hot Auction.

http://www.wafootball.com.au/news/7479/blackwell-bows-out-with-fourth-claremont-fairest-and-best

 

[Shadow Master]

I agree!

Pascoe Vale should pass on:

• Ben Ross 26 Years Old, Pick Number 3 in the country in 2007 Draft, Liston Trophy Winner 2012. Just had a year training & learning with the AFL 2014 Premiers. No Good I reckon
• Ben Warren 25 Years Old, 29 AFL Games (Dean Galea 0) Top 3 Goal Kicker in VFL for the last 3 years. Not up to it I reckon.
• Gavin Urchardt 26 Years Old, Drafted 21 in 2006 National Draft, Voted NAB Rising Star Round 18 as a 20 year old in his first year, Equal Third in Comp Premier Division Comp Medal 2014 was equal lead going into the last round. Don't think he can make it as a regular 1's player.
• Daniel Harris 160 AFL games, pick 14 in the National Draft, Top 10 Tackler in the AFL in multiple seasons, Number 1 Rookie Draft for Gold Coast in 2010 for leadership qualities. Average credentials definitely has lacked success as a footballer.
• Adam Contessa 43 AFL games (Todd Grima 0), Head Coach of EDFL B Grade Flag, First year in A Grade coached to a Pre Lim. Clearly no leadership skills or track record PASS.

For the record I think both Todd Grima & Dean Galea are both fantastic footballers and go around better than 99.9% of us mugs on this forum!
But technically they aren't very successful footballers so I reckon Strathmore & Avondale should delist them both, I agree.
Can anyone pass on their phone numbers for me when they get delisted, they might want to join the other unsuccessful hacks at Pascoe Vale.
The reality is Pascoe Vale will just try and be competitive in 2015 and surely this helps them do that?
Keep It Simple Pious is my motto )

There is some real serious talent there 'KeepItSimple', all reportedly on their way to Pascoe Vale FC, if you add this talent to the players they were able to recruit to their club last season, I would imagine there would have to be some real serious coin somewhere in the coffers of the Pascoe Vale FC to be able to keep up their end of the bargain on a weekly basis, especially if they are retaining the majority of their 2014 playing list.

If you do your sums, this would have to put them in amongst the top bracket of clubs for out going funds for player payments.

This certainly starts to build the pressure for the 2015 season already, from my calculations, if the same clubs continue to spend similar amounts of money on player payments as they did in 2014, the EDFL Premier Division now has a total of six clubs spending SERIOUS coin in the 2015 season. This certainly creates great interest already, as to which clubs will play finals in 2015, if you add Keilor FC to this group, as a club more than capable of playing finals in 2015, as they did in 2014, whilst spending considerably less funds on player payments as their rivals did, the League now has seven clubs supposedly primed to play finals in 2015! Unfortunately seven doesn't go in to four.

The ability of volunteering administrators to get their CLUB structures right is becoming more and more important than ever before, with so many clubs striving to get the timing right in the quest for the ultimate success, something will have to give in the 2015 season.

INTERESTING TIMES AHEAD FOR SOME CLUBS.

 

[KeepItSimple]

There is some real serious talent there 'KeepItSimple', all reportedly on their way to Pascoe Vale FC, if you add this talent to the players they were able to recruit to their club last season, I would imagine there would have to be some real serious coin somewhere in the coffers of the Pascoe Vale FC to be able to keep up their end of the bargain on a weekly basis, especially if they are retaining the majority of their 2014 playing list.

If you do your sums, this would have to put them in amongst the top bracket of clubs for out going funds for player payments.

This certainly starts to build the pressure for the 2015 season already, from my calculations, if the same clubs continue to spend similar amounts of money on player payments as they did in 2014, the EDFL Premier Division now has a total of six clubs spending SERIOUS coin in the 2015 season. This certainly creates great interest already, as to which clubs will play finals in 2015, if you add Keilor FC to this group, as a club more than capable of playing finals in 2015, as they did in 2014, whilst spending considerably less funds on player payments as their rivals did, the League now has seven clubs supposedly primed to play finals in 2015! Unfortunately seven doesn't go in to four.

The ability of volunteering administrators to get their CLUB structures right is becoming more and more important than ever before, with so many clubs striving to get the timing right in the quest for the ultimate success, something will have to give in the 2015 season.

INTERESTING TIMES AHEAD FOR SOME CLUBS.

Great Post Shadow Master

I agree on all counts, you would still have to put your money on the known quantities Mores, Greenvale, Abers, Avondale, Keilor with the rest making up the rear? But you never know, injuries, big player shifts in the off season. These top clubs are amazing and do it year in, year out and the administrators must work their butts off.

On the Pascoe Vale recruits I can smell a Shinboner connection there with Harris, Urchardt, Ross, Warren having all spent some time together at the Roos, as well as Ben Ross's brother Michael ex Essendon already playing at P/V, sometimes the cards can fall the right way and a club can get some luck, as sometimes mates just want to find a way to play together and do it for unders. I doubt that Pascoe Vale will be in the top spending bracket, but like all clubs you never know there are always benefactors that come and go, its so hard to read these days.

I think there are clubs feeling the squeeze and no one is immune, maybe bar the Mores (hats off), look at Marby when Allison left, it got harder as each year went by and to their credit they have found a way to keep it together. Deer Park in contrast floated on Allison's boat, just as Marby had in years past.

It will be an exciting year and I hope all the clubs can be competitive against the top tier.

 

[milkman99]

Rumour Luke Blackwell ex Carlton mid, equal most decorated player for Claremont FC in the WAFL is coming to Melbourne and is a toss up between Abers & Keilor. Apparently he has ties at both clubs, go hard boys, get out your wallets there could be a Hot Auction.

http://www.wafootball.com.au/news/7479/blackwell-bows-out-with-fourth-claremont-fairest-and-best

Abers will win due to there recruiting procedures

 

[Shadow Master]

Rumour Luke Blackwell ex Carlton mid, equal most decorated player for Claremont FC in the WAFL is coming to Melbourne and is a toss up between Abers & Keilor. Apparently he has ties at both clubs, go hard boys, get out your wallets there could be a Hot Auction.

http://www.wafootball.com.au/news/7479/blackwell-bows-out-with-fourth-claremont-fairest-and-best

Luke Blackwell would be an amazing addition to any club in Melbourne, he has been able to build up a pretty impressive CV whilst playing for Claremont in the WAFL. As he will be moving in to the Essendon area in the coming weeks, Aberfeldie FC and Keilor FC are amongst numerous clubs to have put interesting offers on the table for Luke to consider. A nearby club who competes in the VAFA Premier Division has been able to put together a pretty impressive package for Luke to consider. If it is finances, and finances alone, that Luke will be considering! I'm lead to believe Luke will be calling Aberfeldie FC home in season 2015 as their current offer on the table to Luke has taken player payments and sign on fees to a whole new level in the EDFL.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

There is some real serious talent there 'KeepItSimple', all reportedly on their way to Pascoe Vale FC, if you add this talent to the players they were able to recruit to their club last season, I would imagine there would have to be some real serious coin somewhere in the coffers of the Pascoe Vale FC to be able to keep up their end of the bargain on a weekly basis, especially if they are retaining the majority of their 2014 playing list.

If you do your sums, this would have to put them in amongst the top bracket of clubs for out going funds for player payments.

This certainly starts to build the pressure for the 2015 season already, from my calculations, if the same clubs continue to spend similar amounts of money on player payments as they did in 2014, the EDFL Premier Division now has a total of six clubs spending SERIOUS coin in the 2015 season. This certainly creates great interest already, as to which clubs will play finals in 2015, if you add Keilor FC to this group, as a club more than capable of playing finals in 2015, as they did in 2014, whilst spending considerably less funds on player payments as their rivals did, the League now has seven clubs supposedly primed to play finals in 2015! Unfortunately seven doesn't go in to four.

The ability of volunteering administrators to get their CLUB structures right is becoming more and more important than ever before, with so many clubs striving to get the timing right in the quest for the ultimate success, something will have to give in the 2015 season.

INTERESTING TIMES AHEAD FOR SOME CLUBS.

Great post and then throw in the fact that West Coburg are very difficult to beat on there home deck and is looking like another super competitive season in EDFL. I also think it's time for the EDFL to move to a final 5, would add more interest for many clubs who would battle for 5th place and create an extra week of finals which I am sure Turri would be happy to see the extra $ from that.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Great Post Shadow Master

I agree on all counts, you would still have to put your money on the known quantities Mores, Greenvale, Abers, Avondale, Keilor with the rest making up the rear? But you never know, injuries, big player shifts in the off season. These top clubs are amazing and do it year in, year out and the administrators must work their butts off.

On the Pascoe Vale recruits I can smell a Shinboner connection there with Harris, Urchardt, Ross, Warren having all spent some time together at the Roos, as well as Ben Ross's brother Michael ex Essendon already playing at P/V, sometimes the cards can fall the right way and a club can get some luck, as sometimes mates just want to find a way to play together and do it for unders. I doubt that Pascoe Vale will be in the top spending bracket, but like all clubs you never know there are always benefactors that come and go, its so hard to read these days.

I think there are clubs feeling the squeeze and no one is immune, maybe bar the Mores (hats off), look at Marby when Allison left, it got harder as each year went by and to their credit they have found a way to keep it together. Deer Park in contrast floated on Allison's boat, just as Marby had in years past.

It will be an exciting year and I hope all the clubs can be competitive against the top tier.

Luke is good, but hard to think he would be on more than say Adam McPhee who went straight from playing finals with Freo to playing at Greenvale, same with Scotty Lucas.

I assume the VAFA club you refer to would be Bernard's, aren't they an amateur team.... How would they possibly compete with Abers for Backwell

 

[KeepItSimple]

Great post and then throw in the fact that West Coburg are very difficult to beat on there home deck and is looking like another super competitive season in EDFL. I also think it's time for the EDFL to move to a final 5, would add more interest for many clubs who would battle for 5th place and create an extra week of finals which I am sure Turri would be happy to see the extra $ from that.

Great idea because even when a couple of the middle rung teams have a crack at putting a good list together because the cards fall their way or they load up a bit to break through the top 4 ceiling, the reality is they are usually just fighting for a sneaky chance of 4th but usually fall short to the marquee clubs.

I think the last time I can remember a club breaking through from B Grade then straight into the top bracket and staying there was Greenvale, last year was their only down year (if you can even call it that) because if they had of made finals they were a good shot in the form they were in.

I reckon it would keep more interest in more games deeper into the year, also it might help with some crowds and $ over the bar for those middle bracket clubs vying for 5th?

Having said that 2014 was fairly alive late into the year due to the race at the bottom with 4 or 5 sides as late as the second last round who could have been relegated, but that was an odd year usually there is a stand out relegated team half way through the year.

Do we think there could be a stand out relegated team this year, if so who could it be?

Another way it could help is with recruitment for the middle rung teams, often the first thing a gun recruit wants, is to know whether your a chance for finals, that's why the top tier clubs have an advantage over the others, because they can hand on heart tell that player yes we are a definite and by the way we hear you've been talking to X Club, that could be a hard year down there, and you are going to get double teamed every week because your going to be their only marquee player. That won't happen here, we can roll you off the half back flank, or lose you in heavy rotations because we have X, Y & Z that other teams think about tagging as well. Think Iacobocci at the Mores or Josh Toy at Abers, at any of the mid tier clubs they would be the gun onballer.

While we are on the topic of recruitment advantages, the other one is when John Elliot the Mores Pres or Bruce Kent the Greenvale Pres are doing their recruitment player interviews and they get the couple of marquees over the line at top/right dollar, they then wheel in the 15 other interviews from which they will top up their ever important bottom twelve from and that's when they get to pay UNDERS because those players want success and they know they could get maybe $1,200 at X middle rung team as their marquee player but will accept $800 or $900 and so the story goes, even for the lower tier players, again they all accept a bit less so they can have the ultimate success. The Presidents for the Mores/Jets would be pulling that face saying look X we would love you and we know you are worth it, BUT we just can't fit you all in, BUT if you can just shave off a bit from your expectations I can put a medallion around your neck. Call me latest tomorrow because I have to make some decisions on my list and I only have limited slots and $ left so you need to let me know quick. You can guess what happens next 90% of the time!

And the middle/lower rung teams are left fighting over the leftovers paying guess what, $ Marquee dollars, because the player says well I know I'm not playing for a flag I may as well cash in on my worth which is fair enough too.

By the way I admire the top clubs and all clubs would and should play that card if they had it too, to bring success to their members and supporters.

 

[The Milk Man]

speaking to people from watsonia and thomastown where he has been previously, could quite possibly be the worst coach in victoria. good luck to the saints.

You would think Northern Saints have done there homework before appointing him. I have heard Jarrod Carey has committed to an assistant coaching role.

 

[KeepItSimple]

Abers will win due to there recruiting procedures

True no doubt Abers would have quality recruiting procedures, they have a wealth of quality administrators and experienced football people.

In this instance though I think the sealer was the fact that Luke has been friends with Adam Potter the new coach since he was 10 years old.

 

[Hit the post]

True no doubt Abers would have quality recruiting procedures, they have a wealth of quality administrators and experienced football people.

In this instance though I think the sealer was the fact that Luke has been friends with Adam Potter the new coach since he was 10 years old.

Who are the 3 pascoe vale blokes heading up to leitchville/ gunbower in heathcote league with ex teammate Steve pretty

 

[KeepItSimple]

Who are the 3 pascoe vale blokes heading up to leitchville/ gunbower in heathcote league with ex teammate Steve pretty

Not sure mate no one from the 2014 playing list I'm told, might be the boys who went to play at Reservoir in 2014?

 

[Shadow Master]

Great post and then throw in the fact that West Coburg are very difficult to beat on there home deck and is looking like another super competitive season in EDFL. I also think it's time for the EDFL to move to a final 5, would add more interest for many clubs who would battle for 5th place and create an extra week of finals which I am sure Turri would be happy to see the extra $ from that.

Totally agree with you there 'ItsAllAboutMe', maybe I was being a little bit disrespectful to the remaining three clubs in Premier Division as I'm sure the volunteering administrators at Maribyrnong Park, Northern Saints and West Coburg are doing all they can to get there CLUB structure in a position to be able to compete with the other clubs in Premier Division on a consistent basis.

Maribyrnong Park are very close to recruiting three past premiership players back in to their environment for the 2015 season, so they are definitely striving to ensure that their club is amongst the group of clubs vying for a spot in the finals series for the 2015 season.

I'm not to sure whether I agree with your suggestion of the EDFL increasing available finals spots to five in the foreseeable future as this would mean that fifty percent of the competition would play finals on a yearly basis! By leaving the finals system in it's current status of a final four, the focus will definitely shift towards, and intensify, on the volunteering administrators of each club to get their individual CLUB structures right as they strive for sustainability and tactical advantages over opposing clubs in an ever increasingly competitive environment, whilst striving for the ultimate success.

This would definitely create an environment for a very interesting competition, with many questions to be answered, rather than, the only question being just which clubs have the biggest player payment budgets.

INTERESTING TIMES AHEAD FOR SOME CLUBS.