Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk II with F/A rules in OP - Billings for a fourth rounder the latest rumour

What do we do with the #1 pick?

  • Use it

    Votes: 73 47.4%
  • Trade it for multiple top 10 picks

    Votes: 65 42.2%
  • Trade it for players

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Trade it for players and first round picks

    Votes: 13 8.4%

  • Total voters
    154

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Just like our last 2 big trades with Crameri and Ryder we got bent over.

Carlisle isnt even worth pick 5.

Ill happily admit i got it wrong and had no idea if the saints swap pick 5 for him. I cant see him being worth any more than pick 8-10 really. Maybe if the saints get their pick pushed down the order to 8 but even that might be a stretch IMO.

I'm almost at the point of saying **** it, take a second rounder so we don't have to listen to every dick wad saying he's not worth a high pick.
 
Just like our last 2 big trades with Crameri and Ryder we got bent over.

Carlisle isnt even worth pick 5.

Ill happily admit i got it wrong and had no idea if the saints swap pick 5 for him. I cant see him being worth any more than pick 8-10 really. Maybe if the saints get their pick pushed down the order to 8 but even that might be a stretch IMO.

We're not far apart, I'm thinking 5-12 would get it done...

No point us going around kicking our own tyres, there's plenty of opposition experts to tell us how delusional we are...It's a game of poker...Pretty sure we're on the red and black team. :)
 
Just like our last 2 big trades with Crameri and Ryder we got bent over.

Carlisle isnt even worth pick 5.

Ill happily admit i got it wrong and had no idea if the saints swap pick 5 for him. I cant see him being worth any more than pick 8-10 really. Maybe if the saints get their pick pushed down the order to 8 but even that might be a stretch IMO.
What did Beams go for last year?
 

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With the way our football and recruiting department is talking about the draft i think pick 5 will be off the table altogether (should he nominate us). I think our strongest offer would be pick ~25 and Ross. Sure you may not like it, but neither would we.
 
Had Egan stated EFC have some interest in Bennell it would have fine and no-one would complain - Buckley said Collingwood weren't interested in Bennell and no-one complained.

Treloar 750K - Give me a break ! He's a decent player but VERY vanilla.

Need to get Brown or Hartley now that Carlisle is leaving - Though we may have to jump higher in the ND.
 
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Pears for me.

Was getting pantsed by Fasolo in the beginning and then stopped his influence for the rest of the game there is still some hope for Pears imo.

In pears two games at AFL level his opponent got coaches votes - Enough said.
 
One Saint Poster suggested

pick 5, pick 23, Seb Ross

FOR

pick 4, Jack Carlisle

(Edit; on second thought. Why down grade one solitary pick?)

I don't mind going after a depth player who fills a specific list need for us. Tom Hickey perhaps?

This is exactly the type of deal we should be going for - We need to be creative - That's why i suggested if Carlton wants Carlisle we swap picks 4 and 1.
 
If Carlisle were to choose norf - their first rounder and Shaun Atley would be adequate. Atley could be handy off hbf for us.

I'd be happy with North's first rounder - Carlisle is an excellent fit for North.
 
In pears two games at AFL level his opponent got coaches votes - Enough said.

Maybe our long term strategy can be to use Pears to drive up the salary demands of opposition players by helping them perform better which over the long run will lead to list inflation and place us in an advantageous position.

Either that or maybe he's not a great player.
 

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Saying silly comments like "lets forget about pick 5" makes me glad your not in charge.

Nothing is off the table. Thats the point of negotiations. Could slap our second or third rounder on with Carlisle to get the 5th pick.

As soon as you dismiss an option is the moment you lose at the table.
 
IF we got 5 for Jake and could pick up Curnow and either Parish or Francis I'd almost tear up with excitement. Would be a massive win.
Been a while since we've had much to be overly happy about.....that's why I can't see it happening.
 
I'd rather we somehow go for Bennell.

If Hall is also on the table, then pick 5 and player for Hall and Bennell. Maybe throw in a second or third rounder to get the deal done.

Pick Curnow with pick 4 and that would be an amazing off season.

I don't think St Kilda will give us pick 5 so North's first rounder would be alright as well. Hoping Richmond kick them out.
 
Had Egan stated EFC have some interest in Bennell it would have fine and no-one would complain - Buckley said Collingwood weren't interested in Bennell and no-one complained.

Treloar 750K - Give me a break ! He's a decent player but VERY vanilla.

Need to get Brown or Hartley now that Carlisle is leaving - Though we may have to jump higher in the ND.

Not really, apparently Collingwood are tabling a 6 year deal and atleast 4 of those years will be under new salary cap arrangements. Could be a masterstroke and is hopefully something our club is looking at emulating with another in-demand player.
 
Just look at it objectively, what you think of Carlisle as a player becomes irrelevant.

It looks like he'll be offered around $600K to be an 8 to 10 year full back (or maybe a full forward depending on what a club needs, which is a sign of how good he is) that will take any prospective buyer through to their "premiership window". He can play the 4 most difficulty positions on the ground and play them well.

How is that player not worth a top 10 pick? If St Kilda put 5 on the table ultimately that's probably enough though I'd push for something like pick 5 and their second round pick in exchange for our third or maybe a player like Seb Ross.
 
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Had Egan stated EFC have some interest in Bennell it would have fine and no-one would complain - Buckley said Collingwood weren't interested in Bennell and no-one complained.

Treloar 750K - Give me a break ! He's a decent player but VERY vanilla.

Need to get Brown or Hartley now that Carlisle is leaving - Though we may have to jump higher in the ND.


I thought 1 was essential before Carlisle made up his mind to leave. I'd now take both without hesitation.
 
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