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Could we trade our 2 2025 first rounders for pick 1 and guarantee Will Duursma? 191cm gun midfielder

Why? He's not seen as the best talent in the draft and every chance we have a low enough draft pick to take him.
 

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Who's the other 4?
If he’s seen Carey, Ablett, Lockett, Kernahan, Brown, Tredrea, Richardson, and even Modra and Capper if weekly speccies are classified as ‘contested’ , then it would be hard to squeeze Cloke in ahead of any of them.
 
If he’s seen Carey, Ablett, Lockett, Kernahan, Brown, Tredrea, Richardson, and even Modra and Capper if weekly speccies are classified as ‘contested’ , then it would be hard to squeeze Cloke in ahead of any of them.
Yeah I had Sticks and Tredrea.
 

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I don’t know how many he took but the best contested mark I ever seen was Carey hands down. Just willed his way to the contest.
 
I never got tired of those pack marks that Ablett Sr and Nicky Winwar used to take on multiple occasions especially in their younger years. The one guy I would have loved to seen not just as an Essendon fan but just as a football purist would be J Coleman. He obviously had an uncanny ability to mark the ball in the contest.
 
You know what’s just occurred to me?……who’s been shit at contested marks in our forward line????? Usssssssss!!!!! Apart from potentially Caddy who is most likely to take a contested mark to win the game!!! ……. and no you can’t name Drapes, he isn’t allowed but that’s new guy Gerren is the next big thing guy!!!!!, so yada yada yada.
 
Not saying he was the best but gee Modra was a sight to see in his prime. He was better than Capper with no hands in the shoulders. To Cappers credit he got the rules changed against him… usually a sign of greatness too. But I preferred Modra and I thought for a good looking fella and footballer he was pretty understated. Was a man’s man that looked like a ladies man.
 
You know what’s just occurred to me?……who’s been shit at contested marks in our forward line????? Usssssssss!!!!! Apart from potentially Caddy who is most likely to take a contested mark to win the game!!! ……. and no you can’t name Drapes, he isn’t allowed but that’s new guy Gerren is the next big thing guy!!!!!, so yada yada yada.
Been saying for a long time now that we are a poor contested marking side forward of the footy. No issues in the back half but poor in the ruck and forwards and even the midfielders lack marking ability against their own type. It is why they play Cox on a wing to try and get a miss match and why they went for Jones there as well. Just trying to get something to happen.
 
Been saying for a long time now that we are a poor contested marking side forward of the footy. No issues in the back half but poor in the ruck and forwards and even the midfielders lack marking ability against their own type. It is why they play Cox on a wing to try and get a miss match and why they went for Jones there as well. Just trying to get something to happen.
I hear you. That’s why I wanted to see them try Jones on the wing because he wasn’t working out in the forward line. I don’t know if he can pull it off long term but I thought he wasn’t working out in the forward line and is too good of a player to discard and not at least try in other areas of the ground. Like to see them continue with that experiment. If it doesn’t work out they can try him in defence. Cox I’m less bullish about. I hope he proves me wrong but I just don’t see where he fits in. I heard when Baldwin was playing well at training that his direct opponent was Cox. Sometimes he looks like a liability out there.
 
I hear you. That’s why I wanted to see them try Jones on the wing because he wasn’t working out in the forward line. I don’t know if he can pull it off long term but I thought he wasn’t working out in the forward line and is too good of a player to discard and not at least try in other areas of the ground. Like to see them continue with that experiment. If it doesn’t work out they can try him in defence. Cox I’m less bullish about. I hope he proves me wrong but I just don’t see where he fits in. I heard when Baldwin was playing well at training that his direct opponent was Cox. Sometimes he looks like a liability out there.
I quite like jones on the wing. It seems to play to his strengths. Doesn’t really seem to understand the positioning of it but when he does it seems like he’ll be an AFL standard player another 10 years which is really handy
 
Been saying for a long time now that we are a poor contested marking side forward of the footy. No issues in the back half but poor in the ruck and forwards and even the midfielders lack marking ability against their own type. It is why they play Cox on a wing to try and get a miss match and why they went for Jones there as well. Just trying to get something to happen.
Been saying for a long time now that we lack anything imposing in the forward half. We desperately need a presence - someone with the focal qualities that draw the ball and make defenders question their positioning… and their existence.
 
Been saying for a long time now that we are a poor contested marking side forward of the footy. No issues in the back half but poor in the ruck and forwards and even the midfielders lack marking ability against their own type. It is why they play Cox on a wing to try and get a miss match and why they went for Jones there as well. Just trying to get something to happen.
Coupled with poor depth with small forwards. It's no wonder our backline is always under siege and why we constantly fall back to slow ball movement.
 

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