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Mate you gotta chill on that. It's clear that the club wants to play him as a forward.

Yup. I figure him playing as ruck is 1, providing him games and opportunity, 2, giving him a second string to his bow and 3, seeing if the potential could turn into anything more.
Particularly from a team standpoint, we are desperate for a long term quality ruck prospect but are set for forwards.
Plus let's be honest, he's no Buddy or Hawkins who looked like guns as rookies, even now 50 games in he's not much beyond a prospect, albeit one who does show quite a bit.
 
Plus let's be honest, he's no Buddy or Hawkins who looked like guns as rookies, even now 50 games in he's not much beyond a prospect, albeit one who does show quite a bit.
I think that's a little harsh. He's building quite nicely this year towards what will hopefully be his making, just like Hawkins did 10 years ago.
 
Assuming we don’t try to turn him into a ruckman again.

2 years of his career lost due to the ridiculous ruck debacle.

Gosh, what melodrama!

Like Hawkins, Ratugolea will benefit from a period in the ruck. It's useful for his forward craft, and it adds other dimensions to his game. He was also played in the ruck this year because Stanley put in a few of his annual shockers, and the MC ran out of patience and wanted to experiment. Fair enough too. And then there's the issue of Cameron playing, leaving no room up forward until an opportunity emerged only a fortnight ago. These reasonable factors get in the way of your 'hot take'— so much better to say Geelong wasted two years of his career :drunk:

Hawkins will retire in a couple of seasons, and Ratugolea will take his spot with a solid and rounded apprenticeship behind him.
 
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Gosh, what melodrama!

Like Hawkins, Ratugolea will benefit from a period in the ruck. It's useful for his forward craft, and it adds other dimensions to his game. He was also played in the ruck this year because Stanley put in a few of his annual shockers, and the MC ran out of patience and wanted to experiment. Fair enough too. And then there's the issue of Cameron playing, leaving no room up forward until an opportunity emerged only a fortnight ago. These reasonable factors get in the way of your 'hot take'— so much better to say Geelong wasted two years of his career :drunk:

Hawkins will retire in a couple of seasons, and Ratugolea will take his spot with a solid and rounded apprenticeship behind him.
Hawkins didn’t benefit from his time as a centre bounce ruckman. it Took him a year to get over it.
 
Mate you gotta chill on that. It's clear that the club wants to play him as a forward.
Not quite that definitive. Scott said in the presser after the game they were still undecided but that “forwards who can spend some time in the ruck are very valuable. There aren’t too many around as it’s very hard to do.”

We can expect many years ahead of Ratugolea spending blocks of time in the ruck.
 

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use Reason. Not an appeal to emotion. It’s a fallacy.

Superb!

Without a shred of reasoned argument, you appeal to emotion with the dramatic claim that Geelong wasted two years of Ratugolea's career. Presented with a reasoned counter, you respond with yet more pathos, this time concerning Hawkins.

You are comfortably among the most emotionally-driven posters here. You wouldn't know reason if it hit you in the face.
 
I hope he retains his spot when Cameron returns. Not sure who should go for him - perhaps Rohan.
No way. He's our third highest goal kicker this year
 
"Reason" don't work when your premises are sheer fantasy.
ofcourse it does. You just reason as to why the premises are rubbish.

you made that same point to disagree with my posts that we were lacking goal kicking fowards.

and you have now in recent days been arguing that çameron was a critical get cos we were clearly lacking goal kicking fowards. You made this point again on yesterday’s game.

you agree with me but just don’t want to admit it. :)
 
This is great news. I agree with many people who already stated that Esav is a player that looks like he still has a lot to improve, and I truly believe that. He’s been serviceable already and I think the big man might become a great player in a couple of years if he remains healthy.
 
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