Well to miss out on Fernandes and pick up average squad players at best in Hunt and Davis etc that is a kick in the nuts if we are looking to improve.
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Well to miss out on Fernandes and pick up average squad players at best in Hunt and Davis etc that is a kick in the nuts if we are looking to improve.
Assume this is rubbish but given we are reading about it most Everton sites figured I'd post it.
Talk of an Everton takeover
EFC-related forums and websites are abuzz with rumours that Bill Kenwright and the Board are in talks with an unnamed Russian billionaire about a possible buy-out of Everton Football Club.
We have, of course, been here before but sources suggest the interest is firm. A few years ago, Kenwright announced that he was in negotiations with Russian paper magnate, Boris Zingarovich, and his son, Anton, regarding the purchase of an eventual majority stake in the club.
Then there was the Fortress Sports Fund "bid" co-ordinated by Geneva-based businessman, Chris Samuelson. But after leading the media and the fans on a merry dance for months, it eventually emerged that the whole thing had been a mechanism for forcing Paul Gregg out of Everton; FSF may have existed but the Board had no intention of selling up.
That has remained the situation since. Rumour has it that CEO Keith Wyness — and, perhaps, Samuelson as well (it is believed that he continues to search for investment for EFC) — have brought interested investors to Kenwright's attention but he has not been interested in relinquishing control of the club he purchased from Peter Johnson seven years ago.
This time it could be different. Facing unprecedented cash demands from David Moyes in order to strengthen the squad for a serious crack at Champions League qualification and another long run in next season's Uefa Cup but without the funds to provide it without a further cash injection from Robert Earl and, perhaps, Sir Philip Green — not to mention escalating projected costs for an increasingly unpopular move to Kirkby — Kenwright is believed to be considering giving up control.
Long-time friend and financier Green is reportedly looking at switching his interest to Tottenham Hotspur and Earl's continued investment may have always been tied to the success of Destination Kirkby, where retail and leisure opportunities provided potential for a good return on that investment. With that project under threat by rising costs and local opposition that may force the Tesco-backed initiative to be called in by the Government, the Planet Hollywood entrepreneur may be reconsidering his options.
That leaves John Woods, the most elusive of the remaining Board members, and, again, rumour has it that he could now be prepared to sell his stake in the club too.
Most of this is conjecture but Kenwright is in something of a dilemma: if he doesn't come through with cash for his manager, Moyes may walk (if rumour was to be believed last August, Moyes threatened to resign then until money materialised for Yakubu and Fernandes) out of frustration. Having achieved back-to-back top-six finishes, the manager holds all the cards at the moment and if the Chairman were seen to be responsible for the loss of arguably the club's greatest asset, his position may become untenable in the face of the fans' reaction.
Providing the transfer kitty necessary, though, will likely be difficult given the level of borrowing against future Sky TV revenue that has already taken place and the impression that Earl has been calling the financial shots in recent months.
How real is this latest prospect of a buyout by foreign interests? If insider information is to be believed, the approach is genuine and it isn't the first but talks are still in the initial stages. Liverpool Echo reporter, Greg O'Keefe, on his Gwlad Tidings blog, was the first to mention rumours of fresh Russian interest in Everton at the beginning of the month. Then there is the story that Kenwright held a meeting with a representative of the interested party before the home game with Newcastle United and then told another Echo journalist — outed by a couple of sources on the Blue Kipper forum as John Thompson — that talks were ongoing with a Russian businessman and that said journalist immediately spilled the beans to nearby acquaintances.
Finally, in an interview on Brian Reade's City Talk radio show yesterday, Keep Everton In Our City spokesman, Dave Kelly, announced the same thing live on air — that the Board were in talks with a Russian billionnaire regarding a takeover of the club.
Speculation on message boards has assumed that the mystery man is Boris Berezovsky, the ex-Russian oligarch and member of Boris Yeltsin's inner circle now exiled in London due to his opposition to Vladimir Putin. A bit of piecing together of information on ToffeeWeb's part, however, leads us to believe that the man in question is Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the former head of oil giant Yukos and once Russia's richest man before he was jailed by the Putin regime on charges of fraud.
Serving time behind bars in Siberia he may be but that hasn't stopped his partners and lieutenants from investing in various projects in Europe on his behalf and there are indications that he could soon be released from prison while also receiving vast compensation from the government for improper liquidation of Yukos' assets by the Russian government two years ago. His personal fortune is believed to be £220m but he has joint interests in another company worth an estimated £3bn.
Taking all this conjecture a step further, would it explain the fact that Moyes has agreed to stay in principal but not yet signed a new contract at Goodison...?
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I would love to have a Russian onboard.
Talk of an Everton takeover
EFC-related forums and websites are abuzz with rumours that Bill Kenwright and the Board are in talks with an unnamed Russian billionaire about a possible buy-out of Everton Football Club.
We have, of course, been here before but sources suggest the interest is firm. A few years ago, Kenwright announced that he was in negotiations with Russian paper magnate, Boris Zingarovich, and his son, Anton, regarding the purchase of an eventual majority stake in the club.
Then there was the Fortress Sports Fund "bid" co-ordinated by Geneva-based businessman, Chris Samuelson. But after leading the media and the fans on a merry dance for months, it eventually emerged that the whole thing had been a mechanism for forcing Paul Gregg out of Everton; FSF may have existed but the Board had no intention of selling up.
That has remained the situation since. Rumour has it that CEO Keith Wyness — and, perhaps, Samuelson as well (it is believed that he continues to search for investment for EFC) — have brought interested investors to Kenwright's attention but he has not been interested in relinquishing control of the club he purchased from Peter Johnson seven years ago.
This time it could be different. Facing unprecedented cash demands from David Moyes in order to strengthen the squad for a serious crack at Champions League qualification and another long run in next season's Uefa Cup but without the funds to provide it without a further cash injection from Robert Earl and, perhaps, Sir Philip Green — not to mention escalating projected costs for an increasingly unpopular move to Kirkby — Kenwright is believed to be considering giving up control.
Long-time friend and financier Green is reportedly looking at switching his interest to Tottenham Hotspur and Earl's continued investment may have always been tied to the success of Destination Kirkby, where retail and leisure opportunities provided potential for a good return on that investment. With that project under threat by rising costs and local opposition that may force the Tesco-backed initiative to be called in by the Government, the Planet Hollywood entrepreneur may be reconsidering his options.
That leaves John Woods, the most elusive of the remaining Board members, and, again, rumour has it that he could now be prepared to sell his stake in the club too.
Most of this is conjecture but Kenwright is in something of a dilemma: if he doesn't come through with cash for his manager, Moyes may walk (if rumour was to be believed last August, Moyes threatened to resign then until money materialised for Yakubu and Fernandes) out of frustration. Having achieved back-to-back top-six finishes, the manager holds all the cards at the moment and if the Chairman were seen to be responsible for the loss of arguably the club's greatest asset, his position may become untenable in the face of the fans' reaction.
Providing the transfer kitty necessary, though, will likely be difficult given the level of borrowing against future Sky TV revenue that has already taken place and the impression that Earl has been calling the financial shots in recent months.
How real is this latest prospect of a buyout by foreign interests? If insider information is to be believed, the approach is genuine and it isn't the first but talks are still in the initial stages. Liverpool Echo reporter, Greg O'Keefe, on his Gwlad Tidings blog, was the first to mention rumours of fresh Russian interest in Everton at the beginning of the month. Then there is the story that Kenwright held a meeting with a representative of the interested party before the home game with Newcastle United and then told another Echo journalist — outed by a couple of sources on the Blue Kipper forum as John Thompson — that talks were ongoing with a Russian businessman and that said journalist immediately spilled the beans to nearby acquaintances.
Finally, in an interview on Brian Reade's City Talk radio show yesterday, Keep Everton In Our City spokesman, Dave Kelly, announced the same thing live on air — that the Board were in talks with a Russian billionnaire regarding a takeover of the club.
Speculation on message boards has assumed that the mystery man is Boris Berezovsky, the ex-Russian oligarch and member of Boris Yeltsin's inner circle now exiled in London due to his opposition to Vladimir Putin. A bit of piecing together of information on ToffeeWeb's part, however, leads us to believe that the man in question is Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the former head of oil giant Yukos and once Russia's richest man before he was jailed by the Putin regime on charges of fraud.
Serving time behind bars in Siberia he may be but that hasn't stopped his partners and lieutenants from investing in various projects in Europe on his behalf and there are indications that he could soon be released from prison while also receiving vast compensation from the government for improper liquidation of Yukos' assets by the Russian government two years ago. His personal fortune is believed to be £220m but he has joint interests in another company worth an estimated £3bn.
Taking all this conjecture a step further, would it explain the fact that Moyes has agreed to stay in principal but not yet signed a new contract at Goodison...?
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I would love to have a Russian onboard.
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Foreign Ownership.
Be careful. It's not all it's cracked up to be
Be careful. It's not all it's cracked up to be
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TheBrownDog
Thats if you get Americans
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Any transfer news?? Very boring preseason so far!
With Arteta looking likely to leave you guys are going to need to make a couple of big signings to get 5th position again with the improvements Tottenham and Man City have made.
Any idea how big your transfer budget is?
Any idea how big your transfer budget is?
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Not much i would gather, 15 mil??
What is the news with Arteta? I have been very much out of the loop of late
What is the news with Arteta? I have been very much out of the loop of late
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TheBrownDog
2 quid is about all I reckon.
Arteta seems to want a move to Athletico. Apparently he has always dreamed of playing for them but there is a chance that he might stay at Everton and move to them at the end of the next season.
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TheBrownDog
Yeah he said at the end of his career.. He's going on the training trip with the boys.
These Arteta rumors are absolute rubbish. Arteta at one point said he would like to finish his career in Spain, that is about all there is to it. Since then there is consistent articles he is on the move, but never with any evidence at all, especially from Arteta himself. Even last year he signed a 5 year contract extension and rags like The Sun and Daily Mail will not let it go. Even after Arteta publicly states as he has on numerous occasions he is happy at Everton and is not leaving.
There would be strife if Arteta left. If Sheeds is right then I suppose we'll be alright, but weve got to keep as much talent as we can and sink the boot into crap.
Tipping the Yak to have a big year, as well Timmy if he stays fit.
Tipping the Yak to have a big year, as well Timmy if he stays fit.
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Just read that Hibbert is out for the year, knee surgery.. no big loss for mine anyway..
All this talk of foreign ownership, i don't mind, if someone is really going to come in, give us the $$ to get a good squad that can crack and challenge the big four, bring it on.
Arteta would be a massive blow, his a great player and my second favorite behind Timmy but he knows and we all know he isn't going to play for Spain unless his playing in Spain, which will be big factor in his decision making, hopefully we can keep him for another year and get some good $$$ to replace him.
I think this seasons transfer budget is in the region of 15-20 mil, and we have also been linked with David Bentley after he has confirmed he wants out of Blackburn. Would anyone oppose trying to get him?
Also in Andy Johnson news, goal.com is reporting that Moyes has put a $12 mil price tag on his head with Sunderland keen and already offered $10 mil before he was put on the market. I am a massive fan of AJ but for the good of the club I say sell him for the 10-12 mil, buy David Bentley and another solid midfielder/defender and we are a good chance for a top 4 spot despite moves Tottenham and Man City are making. Selling AJ will give Vaughan more of a first team chance [which is good cause the kid will be a superstar] and might help keep Anichebe with him being the 3rd choice instead of the 4th, plus the best football we played was with Yakubu alone with Tim Cahill just in behind.
Lastly but not least, reported on goal.com [found it just as I was looking up the spelling of Anichebe], David Moyes is looking to persuade Manchester United's Darren Fletcher to join Everton. Could be possible as he is the 9th best midfielder when Hargreaves, Scholes, Carrick, Anderson, Ronaldo, Nani, Park and Giggs are all fit and running.
All this talk of foreign ownership, i don't mind, if someone is really going to come in, give us the $$ to get a good squad that can crack and challenge the big four, bring it on.
Arteta would be a massive blow, his a great player and my second favorite behind Timmy but he knows and we all know he isn't going to play for Spain unless his playing in Spain, which will be big factor in his decision making, hopefully we can keep him for another year and get some good $$$ to replace him.
I think this seasons transfer budget is in the region of 15-20 mil, and we have also been linked with David Bentley after he has confirmed he wants out of Blackburn. Would anyone oppose trying to get him?
Also in Andy Johnson news, goal.com is reporting that Moyes has put a $12 mil price tag on his head with Sunderland keen and already offered $10 mil before he was put on the market. I am a massive fan of AJ but for the good of the club I say sell him for the 10-12 mil, buy David Bentley and another solid midfielder/defender and we are a good chance for a top 4 spot despite moves Tottenham and Man City are making. Selling AJ will give Vaughan more of a first team chance [which is good cause the kid will be a superstar] and might help keep Anichebe with him being the 3rd choice instead of the 4th, plus the best football we played was with Yakubu alone with Tim Cahill just in behind.
Lastly but not least, reported on goal.com [found it just as I was looking up the spelling of Anichebe], David Moyes is looking to persuade Manchester United's Darren Fletcher to join Everton. Could be possible as he is the 9th best midfielder when Hargreaves, Scholes, Carrick, Anderson, Ronaldo, Nani, Park and Giggs are all fit and running.
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I can see why Arteta would want a move to Atletico Madrid, though. A great club, that are back in the CL this year.
It wouldn't surprise.
Cahill is the key.
He got injured, and you went to complete shit.
You'd do well to get shot of Andy Johnson as well. Someone will pay good money.
It wouldn't surprise.
Cahill is the key.
He got injured, and you went to complete shit.
You'd do well to get shot of Andy Johnson as well. Someone will pay good money.
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TheBrownDog
Watch an everton game first you liverpool dick. Cahill was out for over half the season, a lot of it was in the 13 game run that we had going.
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I watched plenty. Why? I'm not sure. Never will be.
When Cahill played, you only lost 5 in 27.
18.5%
Overall, you played 54 (I think) losing 15 (Once again I think)
27.8%
Let's not beat around the bush, he's a ridiculously effective player, and you'll struggle without him.
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TheBrownDog
We so struggled with out him
We won most of the games against "lower" oppositions anyway and still stuffed up against the top teams, we just had Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool (x2) in those 10 losses without him. The games we lost without him we don't usually win even with him. (Villa, Newcastle and Fulham away)
We have a lot of work ahead of us in the transfer window. Obviously heard most the rumors like others who Everton have been linked with. Latest one I read was Diego Milito dependent upon Johnson going. Also see on the official site Andy VDM has reported to pre-season training, thought he would have been cut adrift by now.
Also I send the best to Joseph Yobo, must be a difficult time for him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...essages-support-Yobo-brothers-kidnapping.html
Everton have sent messages of support to Joseph Yobo after his brother was kidnapped at gunpoint in Nigeria. Norum Yobo was abducted on his way home from a nightclub in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, and it is thought a ransom demand could follow.
Everton's 27-year old defender, Yobo, was due to return from a holiday in Lagos this week but has been given extended leave to be with his family.
'We have contacted Joseph and offered him any assistance he needs,' said Everton spokesman Ian Ross. 'All our thoughts are with him and his family.'
Norum was one of three men taken from their car in the early hours of the morning as they drove home. The other two were later released, and police are now waiting for the kidnappers to make contact.
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Also I send the best to Joseph Yobo, must be a difficult time for him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...essages-support-Yobo-brothers-kidnapping.html
Everton have sent messages of support to Joseph Yobo after his brother was kidnapped at gunpoint in Nigeria. Norum Yobo was abducted on his way home from a nightclub in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, and it is thought a ransom demand could follow.
Everton's 27-year old defender, Yobo, was due to return from a holiday in Lagos this week but has been given extended leave to be with his family.
'We have contacted Joseph and offered him any assistance he needs,' said Everton spokesman Ian Ross. 'All our thoughts are with him and his family.'
Norum was one of three men taken from their car in the early hours of the morning as they drove home. The other two were later released, and police are now waiting for the kidnappers to make contact.
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You've been acting like a ########.
Are you seriously denying the fact that he's a key player?
what have Manchester City done?
they were well behind and have only signed one player.
You won't sign Bentley.
He'll go to Tottenham.
If they don't want him then Villa will sign him.
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TheBrownDog
And I care what you say because? I couldn't care less if you were the Prime Minister, so beat it punk.
I'm not denying it. I'm denying that without him we suck. We proved that we do not.
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Would he be a good signing for the Villa AC?
Certainly overpriced, but a combination of Bentley and Young on either side, is quite tasty.
it's tasty and he is pricy. be really happy to sign him.
Young and Bentley on either side? yeah, I reckon I'd like that.
unfortunately, Tottenham look most likely to sign him at the moment.
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Psst.. Everton thread- Villa thread is that way.
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