Expectations for 2025

[bigmikles089]

Not quite the shrewd analysis I was expecting at a football forum. Seriously, I was disappointed when Simpson beat him for the role. Felt we would have done much better recruiting Suma.

Suma couldn't strategise his way out of a wet paper bag relative to Simmo. He was a great player but that doesn't automatically correlate to being a good coach.

Further to this, his ability to mix with his playing group was raised as an issue by a few WA football contacts - especially when he was coaching the U18's a few years back.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Suma couldn't strategise his way out of a wet paper bag relative to Simmo. He was a great player but that doesn't automatically correlate to being a good coach.

No problems. I'm sure many feel the same way. I just happen to disagree. That's life.

Further to this, his ability to mix with his playing group was raised as an issue by a few WA football contacts - especially when he was coaching the U18's a few years back.

First I've heard of this. Maybe you could elaborate.

 

[squashface]

No problems. I'm sure many feel the same way. I just happen to disagree. That's life.



First I've heard of this. Maybe you could elaborate.

You only have to listen to Schofield and Masten on Backchat laughing at the prospect of him coaching to know how respected he is within the playing group that was under him.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

You only have to listen to Schofield and Masten on Backchat laughing at the prospect of him coaching to know how respected he is within the playing group that was under him.

Haven't heard that. Got a link you could share?

 

[KERRPOW]

I think we need to lift out expectations.

we have brought in 3x 27o's to take the brunt off the youngsters.

im expecting 10 wins tbh.

 

[We_The_West]

I think we need to lift out expectations.

we have brought in 3x 27o's to take the brunt off the youngsters.

im expecting 10 wins tbh.

Ginbey has said Hewett is TTHD…

Finals

 

[Bender_]

8 wins

 

[WA footy mad]

With the likes of Baker & Graham we are definitely going to be a more competitive side. Lets just hope they brought these older players in the side to help the young players. We are not in the window for a finals berth actually a long way off so it will take a few more successful drafts to make us competitive again. Next years prediction similar amount of wins to this year, but hopefully good signs of improvement in our younger brigade of players.

 

[Beutbrute]

I'm not expecting that we will go much better in the first half of the year than last season, but our game will click towards the second half of the year similar to what we saw with the Hawks last season.

Missing out on the 8 by a few games but we will Make Eagles Great Again

 

[Scotland]

The expectation is that we don't finish the season with a percentage in the 50s or 60s. Competitive sides don't do that. And it's rare to go from uncompetitive to contending without intermediate steps. If we are trotting out 10 goal losses early in the year without another injury crisis pitch forks should be out. If we start poorly I expect a lot of heat to be directed at Pyke and McQualter for bringing in two Richmond players.

We added 3 experienced players so if they are not all in the best 22 in Round 1, why did we add them? If they don't make the team better, why did we add them? Draft obviously hasn't happened yet but we have picks 12 and 26 so not expecting to draft a ready made star.

Brisbane went from 3 years in the 60s to one of 74%, one of 89% and then finals for the last 6 years in a row. That 2018 Rd 23 side (their last year outside finals) had 9 premiership players from 2024 aged 26 or under in it.

Melbourne went from scoring 11 and conceding 20 goals a game in 2013 to conceding 15 in 2014, to scoring AND conceding 15 a game in 2016. They've mostly been competitive since and if not for imploding off field would still be a contender.

We are a 69 for, 102 against team based on 2024. The Premier are 94 for, 76 against. So we're 51 points off the pace.

Do we have as much talent on the list as those teams did? Jury is out but I would not be betting the house on it. Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver, Viney, McLuggage, Rayner etc. came from top 5 picks and F/S selections. Are we 2018 Brisbane or 2016 Melbourne, or are we realistically not at that point yet? We were better in 2024 but beat North and Richmond who are also historically bad, Melbourne who hit the self destruct button, Gold Coast who had an away record of 0-9 going in and Freo who are mentally fragile (seriously how did they miss finals from 12-6?).

What I want to see is a forward line of Allen, Waterman and Jack Williams (Darling was OK in the role he was asked to play but not having him forces us to not try and squeeze 3 key forwards + 2 Williams in which was horrible), Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

playing a mid/forward role where he actually kicks goals again, more midfield minutes for Reid, Hewett, Baker, Harry Edwards at FB and some semblance of a plan for how to transition the ball out of defensive 50. Our go to has been to give the ball to Witherden or Rotham and hope for the best which is both a poor strategy and no longer an option.

 

[Cuzz09]

we are 69 for 102 against

if we can get to 80 for and 90 against that's a good target imo

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[Patron]

Looking at the teams around us it's hard to see how we finish higher than third or second last again tbh.

We will be better than Richmond who are basically a Monty for the spoon. We could be better than North but they are bound to shoot up the ladder soon, and they did well with their cheap senior acquisitions (parker, darling, daniel) which will improve their experience and depth.

Adelaide and Melbourne are the other teams we could hope to get above, but I quite liked Adelaide's off season recruiting and if Tracc/Oliver come back healthier it's hard to see us leapfrogging them.

I think we will improve again, but not sure it will show much by way of wins or ladder position, but there's always a chance a few teams cop injuries or implode.

 

[Cuzz09]

hopefully Hawks implode

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[Bacchus]

Hard to be very optimistic.

Hope we are not savaged by injury like we have been the last few years.

Maybe our floor will improve with the experienced recruits.

The recruit I am most excited about so far is the coach. A fresh set of eyes, fresh message, fresh game plan may revitalise the group.

We were going nowhere the last few years.