F1 F1 2024 thread

[Simon_Nesbit]

In my opinion, the best way to increase overtaking is to simply make the cars smaller.

It's the whole conflict of intent - the designers will go for what's "fastest" (invariably designed around clean air) - the fans mostly want the greatest potential for overtakes and positional battles.

At one end of the spectrum you have go-karts, running 3-wide around the whole track, and capable of having multiple position swaps every corner. At the other, is F1.

 

[Black_White]

I believe they also get indicators on their steering wheels - not just the blue flags/lights on the side of the track.

Agree though that they need to start handing out penalties like chocolates at Halloween - the backmarkers would soon get the message. Mind you, what penalty can you hand out that is meaningful to a driver who's not going to be in the points anyway?

Points off licence.
Eventually leading to suspension. Which becomes a headache for the team and undermines your seat if your replacement performs.
Big penalty that.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I doubt they'd put Colapinto in the Red Bull. Seems more likely they'd promote one of the RB's and put Colapinto in that other seat.

They won't promote yuki in fact he probably won't be there in 2026.

 

[skam85]

Oofftt that’s a bit ironic coming from the TP that has failed to deliver a drivable car the last 3 years

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He's right though, and age isn't as much a factor for the non-driving team.

 

[Not Important]

They won't promote yuki in fact he probably won't be there in 2026.

agree. i’m sure they’d like a japanese driver though. but, he’s his own worst enemy in one sense - he won’t stfu.

 

[happy_eagle]

They won't promote yuki in fact he probably won't be there in 2026.

Lawson I think can handle it.
Put it this way, I doubt he would be as bad as Sergio.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Lawson I think can handle it.
Put it this way, I doubt he would be as bad as Sergio.

A carbon rod would be better than Sergio at this point (even a washed up DR probably would have been) but yes i would agree Lawson is the logical choice-I just think Yuki will look for a new team in 2026.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

agree. i’m sure they’d like a japanese driver though. but, he’s his own worst enemy in one sense - he won’t stfu.

To be fair Helmut never does STFU and he seems to have a job til he dies there so Yuki probably thinks the same rule applies to him.

 

[Vader]

A carbon rod would be better than Sergio at this point (even a washed up DR probably would have been) but yes i would agree Lawson is the logical choice-I just think Yuki will look for a new team in 2026.

Yuki will be hoping that Laurence Stroll sacks his son, or Alonso pulls the plug after realising he's no longer up to it (which has been apparent for most of 2024). Honda will be moving to AM in 2026, so those are the only hopes Yuki has for a drive in 2026.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Alonso is 9th in the standings. He's the difference in Aston Martin leading "Division 2". Idk if it's that apparent he's not up to it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yuki will be hoping that Laurence Stroll sacks his son, or Alonso pulls the plug after realising he's no longer up to it (which has been apparent for most of 2024). Honda will be moving to AM in 2026, so those are the only hopes Yuki has for a drive in 2026.

I wouldn't say they are his ONLY options. But yes I agree his most logical route with Honda is Alonso retires and he takes the seat (I can't see stroll sacking his kid).
There will be more driver market movement in 2026 when the regs change so I can see a few midfield teams looking at him.

 

[BomberFan355]

 

[jabba5114]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one/its-bulls-liam-lawson-slams-mclarens-f1-anthem-choice/news-story/63269c650df8296698b68e3133f9362f

Liam Lawson has no filter and I like it

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[happy_eagle]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one/its-bulls-liam-lawson-slams-mclarens-f1-anthem-choice/news-story/63269c650df8296698b68e3133f9362f

Liam Lawson has no filter and I like it

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Haven't heard the quote in context, but apparently it was said in jest on a comedic podcast.

Seems to have a bit of character though which is good. Last thing we need is another George Russell.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Haven't heard the quote in context, but apparently it was said in jest on a comedic podcast.

Seems to have a bit of character though which is good. Last thing we need is another George Russell.

Blando and George are quintessential rich Brits. No personality

 

[happy_eagle]

Blando and George are quintessential rich Brits. No personality

Unfortunately Lando appears to be developing a bit of a personality as a spoilt and entitled git.

George has a bit of that in him as well, but he's still very robotic.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Unfortunately Lando appears to be developing a bit of a personality as a spoilt and entitled git.

George has a bit of that in him as well, but he's still very robotic.

Lando acts like a 12 year old most of the time.

 

[Festerz]

In my opinion, the best way to increase overtaking is to simply make the cars smaller.

Yep. And we're not talking about going back to the 60s either. Just a reset to when the racing and overtaking was at its peak..2010 might be the place to start as the absolute limit but a few years earlier would be awesome.

 

[hotchilli]

Yep. And we're not talking about going back to the 60s either. Just a reset to when the racing and overtaking was at its peak..2010 might be the place to start as the absolute limit but a few years earlier would be awesome.

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Surely one of the major pushbacks will be on the major safety features that contribute to the increases in size.

 

[Thistle]

Yep. And we're not talking about going back to the 60s either. Just a reset to when the racing and overtaking was at its peak..2010 might be the place to start as the absolute limit but a few years earlier would be awesome.

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Cars will be 20cm shorter and 10cm narrower in 2026 which is a start

 

[Festerz]

Cars will be 20cm shorter and 10cm narrower in 2026 which is a start

Yes, I agree its a good start:




A reminder of what the RB1(2005) looked like size wise compared to the RB20 (2024):

 

[Festerz]

Here's the video of the 2 cars (RB1 and RB20) having a track run together at Silverstone in the wet from earlier this year for those who haven't seen:



The sound of the V10 in the RB1 is something I really miss though.

I know, I know, as the line from the song says - 'those days are gone forever, I should just let em go....but'

 

[Cromulant]

Its the braking distances and inability to follow closely that is restricting overtaking, not just the size of the cars.

The modern day safety features plus the hybrid units will mean we never go back to the 2010 days

 

[Bradesmaen]

Yes, I agree its a good start:

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A reminder of what the RB1(2005) looked like size wise compared to the RB20 (2024):

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Looks like driving around a 20 year old car and coming up next to a yummy mummy and her shitty Crossover.

 

[DamoESP]

As expected, it was all a nothingburger but didn’t stop Zak Brown from going all in on the attacks

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-factory-investigation-clears-red-bull-over-front-bib-allegations/10672360/