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IMHO it's all about the professionalism and motivations of the commentary team.

Being biased towards British drivers was definitely NOT the case when Murray Walker and James Hunt was commentating or when Martin Brundle teamed up with Walker. Because they were professionals who cared about the sport of F1 and not what bloody country a driver was born in.

If a driver was shite then James Hunt would call him out regardless of what accent he had. His nick names for crappy drivers were legendary (and totally disrespectful of course in a way that wouldn't be regarded as acceptable in 2024).

This pro British bias has evolved over time as Sky has played a more dominant role in the sport and has reached plague proportions with the recruitment of the likes of Croft, Chandhok et al and as Brundle has taken a step back from attending every race.

There's another UK commentary team out there by the way that in my view is far more balanced and less shouty than the Sky mob. But we will never get to see them here (apart from guest appearances on Ten during the Australian GP) because the F1 broadcasts in Australia have been purchased by Sky's sister organisation Foxtel.

And sadly there just isn't the viewer interest in Australia to justify an Australian broadcaster stumping up the cost to broadcast a Sky competitors F1 feed - especially as more races are taking place in venues with time zones way out of synch with Australia.

Nope, Aussie F1 fans are stuck with the appalling Sky broadcast for the time being I'm afraid unless the global Fox/Sky empire is broken up and sold by his kids on Rupert Murdoch's death.

Heaven help us all when Brundle finally walks away in the meantime.
Was good having Alan Jones and Darrell Eastlake in the chair beforehand too. Just pretty much just cut straight to the race. We are so freakin lucky to have all the qualifying and practice sessions among other content today. For that reason i am not too bothered by current day commentators, but yes Brundell is the only decent one. Need to get Rosberg on there more too. He tells it like it is. Remember Coulthard was pretty good on BBC, too.
 
The GDPA with a very direct statement to the FIA and its President…


Well said. A reminder that the GDPA is effectively the F1 drivers union with all 2024 drivers being members. George Russell holds a director's position and Alex Wurz, the former McLaren and Williams driver, its long-standing chair.

This is them telling Sulayem to pull his head in. They are saying what the teams want to say but can't.

Strength in unity.

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The FIA's position is nonsensical anyway. The drivers are the asset. The owners of F1 have made the personality of the drivers as a selling point thus they've got a camera in their face at every opportunity. Now there's shock that the drivers who operate in such a high stress environment (that makes for great TV) aren't always perfect people? Spare me
 
Rest assured there's been a lot of hectic angry politicking going on behind the scenes leading up to this statement. Putting the spotlight back on the Ben Sulayem, whose reign as FIA President has been filled with controversy, via the drivers' union is a very clever move.

Ben Saleyem seems to think he can use the sport as a platform to mount a personal crusade against western values - swearing, lack of modesty, rappers etc. Great to see him being called to account.

"our members are adults, they do not need to be given instructions via the media about matters as trivial as wearing of jewellery and underpants."

 
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Alpine apparently after Colapinto to replace Doohan.

Imagine that, sacked before you even started.
They really must struggle with the concept of contracts in that team
 

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Martin brundle thinks they should get rid of blue flags. I can see an argument for it.
What are people's thoughts?

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Nope. I don't want the leaders getting held up by backmarkers fighting over 15th place. They shouldn't have to fight their way through the ridiculously slow cars.
 
Nope. I don't want the leaders getting held up by backmarkers fighting over 15th place. They shouldn't have to fight their way through the ridiculously slow cars.

Just imagine the UK media backlash if one of the Poms is leading and crashes out of the race fighting to lap last place
 
Just imagine the UK media backlash if one of the Poms is leading and crashes out of the race fighting to lap last place
Ok i was against getting rid of blue flags due to compromising the race and safety but **** it i need to see a pom (Lando) getting ****ed by a driver whilst Max drives around them and waves seeya.
 
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I can absolutely see an argument, but Msrtin forgets that these cars are stupidly hard to see out of.

I reckon you need to start giving penalties earlier though
 
Whilst overtaking still requires a speed discrepency >1s/lap blue flags are essential. You only have to think about the Ocon/Verstappen incident at Interlagos a few years ago. Ocon was roundly criticized, not for doing anything wrong on track in the overtake - but by having the gumption to attempt in the first place - after all he was a lap down!

The expectation has been set that back-markers will simply "get out of the way" - often sacrificing their own races/battles to avoid impeding the leaders. Remioving blue flags now and they will still be criticized, but without any threat of marshall or steward penalty and the drivers will have much greater variance in their on-track responses. (And OP seems to struggle more than LN to overtake as it is!).

We will never see refuelling reintroduced, but they need to find a way to increase the pace offset between cars. There are lots of methods they could try (increased variance in tyre grip/speed and degradation (1-3-5 rather than 1-2-3 an obvious fix for example), improved assisted overtakes - better DRS, push-to-pass battery power, etc) then this would help. But the biggest issue now IMO is the (lack of) braking distance. They are so powerful now there simply isn't room for clean overtaking in the braking zone.
 
Whilst overtaking still requires a speed discrepency >1s/lap blue flags are essential. You only have to think about the Ocon/Verstappen incident at Interlagos a few years ago. Ocon was roundly criticized, not for doing anything wrong on track in the overtake - but by having the gumption to attempt in the first place - after all he was a lap down!

The expectation has been set that back-markers will simply "get out of the way" - often sacrificing their own races/battles to avoid impeding the leaders. Remioving blue flags now and they will still be criticized, but without any threat of marshall or steward penalty and the drivers will have much greater variance in their on-track responses. (And OP seems to struggle more than LN to overtake as it is!).

We will never see refuelling reintroduced, but they need to find a way to increase the pace offset between cars. There are lots of methods they could try (increased variance in tyre grip/speed and degradation (1-3-5 rather than 1-2-3 an obvious fix for example), improved assisted overtakes - better DRS, push-to-pass battery power, etc) then this would help. But the biggest issue now IMO is the (lack of) braking distance. They are so powerful now there simply isn't room for clean overtaking in the braking zone.
Back markers are still entitled to race their race but when you have a risk of a back marker holding up one driver over another, a mechanism is required to mitigate this risk.

I agree regarding re-fuelling. I don't mind the increased variance in tyre as long as they achieve every race being a minimum of two stops. If they could find a way to replicate the effect of wet weather without jeopardising safety that could be interesting.
 
He goes to Rb before alpine. Perez sponsors have said they will sponsor him even if perez is sacked

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Perez won't get sacked and he's too selfish to retire.
 

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