Coach Fages and the coaching group

[western royboy]

Surely we have to give Davis the boot and throw some money at Rutten, right?

I’d be trying to see what else we can offer the likes of Lappin or Power to come home and sort out midfield out. Our midfield actively regressed this year from the last 3 years, and I’m starting to see why Bruce was moved on from 2 clubs previously.

Maybe unpopular but I’m not necessarily against Adcock in the forward line because our forwards are clearly getting the job done for the most part, there’s just not much you can do when the only entry’s you’re getting are massive high bombs

Our forwards (exclude Cameron) and particularly our keys are downhill skiers - they do not work hard defensively off the ball. Something needs to change.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Our forwards (exclude Cameron) and particularly our keys are downhill skiers - they do not work hard defensively off the ball. Something needs to change.

Daniher flops about like a Thunderbird that has had his strings cut.

 

[Mr Ripper]

AND THEN COLLINGWOOD DID THAT!! WHAT AN AWESOME WIN! WHAT COURAGE AND CHARACTER! WE ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE! WHAT A CLUB! I AM JEALOUS!

 

[3KZ is Football]

Seriously, I’d be happier if Daniher modelled himself on Josh Kennedy or Charlie Dixon

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Charlie Dixon

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4.7

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4.0

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2.2

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1.6

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10.5

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7.0

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5.0

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1.8

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0.8

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instead of Pee Wee Herman.

 

[M Malice]

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Aaaaaay!

 

[irish]

Hopefully they weren't watching the 4th quarter choke.

 

[irish]

True

 

[acuguy]

They need to drop Daniher. Reward effort and bring in Fort

 

[GabbaTRON]

Interested to see what other peoples thoughts are about my take here: I believe we have the personnel to beat Melbourne but is almost solely our game plan vs theirs which doesn’t compete.

Thoughts?

 

[T Rick]

I wonder if Fages and Lethal still catch up regularly for a meal like they did in the early years...would love to know what Leigh thinks of our current situation and his advice to Fagan.

 

[Thomasno]

Our forwards (exclude Cameron) and particularly our keys are downhill skiers - they do not work hard defensively off the ball. Something needs to change.

Well then by that virtue Adcock, as a defensively minded midfielder, should be the perfect coach for that lol

 

[Thomasno]

Seriously, I’d be happier if Daniher modelled himself on Josh Kennedy or Charlie Dixon

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Charlie Dixon

Age

34

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200cm

Wt

110kg

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Fwd

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11.7

3star

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6.9

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.0

4star

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2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

10.5

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.5

2star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.5

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.0

3star

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1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

instead of Pee Wee Herman.

Absolutely wild that you would even consider putting JJK and Dixon in the same sentence.

 

[LIONS08]

AND THEN COLLINGWOOD DID THAT!! WHAT AN AWESOME WIN! WHAT COURAGE AND CHARACTER! WE ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE! WHAT A CLUB! I AM JEALOUS!

I think it’s time you jump over and support the pies you whinge as much as a pies fan…

 

[Nathan Barley]

I think it’s time you jump over and support the pies you whinge as much as a pies fan…

He’ll follow McStay

 

[Saucery]

Carlton just showed more courage and character in that third quarter against Collingwood than we have shown all year. Big stage, clutch situation, full glare of publicity and weight of expectation - Carlton stood up.

Not sure how that in anyway replies to my comments so why quote me? Just seems like your conformation bias running wild again and your cherry picking seriously irrelevant circumstances to prove some obtuse point about..... well I'm not sure what, but you seem very needy for some sort of associational success and willing to attack anyone who you believe doesn't bring you the vicarious satisfaction you crave.

TLDR: Get a life.

 

[cotter101]

Would love to bring Noble back and add someone like Rutten or another highly rated assistant.

 

[MacMum]

I still believe this lot of players are capable of winning a flag BUT a few things need to change...Time for a fresh start. As of now.

Time to hand over to the young ones. It was suggested Cam Rayner for Captain, not something I'd even thought of, I have now.....what a brilliant idea!

Cam would die for this team, his heart is in every game to the best of his ability and he speaks well in an interview and he's likable which our current captain isn't.. Could be the makings of him. Zorko and Andrews are out of the equation now, Andrews hasn't looked interested all year.... and Zorko for being a dickhead .....they've had their chance. We need to move on.

...and get Noble back. When Leppa left Tiges to coach us, they stagnated, when he went back there they won flags. Hardwick/Leppa worked. So did Fages/Noble.

Also, agree Fagan needs to go back up to the coaches box.

(i'm a huge JBerry fan but not captain material imo)


...oh, forgot about JDaniher....needs a good kick up the backside to get him moving for the whole game and to lose that smirk of his.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Not sure how that in anyway replies to my comments so why quote me? Just seems like your conformation bias running wild again and your cherry picking seriously irrelevant circumstances to prove some obtuse point about..... well I'm not sure what, but you seem very needy for some sort of associational success and willing to attack anyone who you believe doesn't bring you the vicarious satisfaction you crave.

TLDR: Get a life.

Like!

 

[mpal6]

Interested to see what other peoples thoughts are about my take here: I believe we have the personnel to beat Melbourne but is almost solely our game plan vs theirs which doesn’t compete.

Thoughts?

We can't play 4 quarters consistently. Only game we did it this year is against Swans I think. Until we can do that, we won't be a chance to beat Demons. If Dees play a blinder in spite of our 4 quarter effort - then bad luck. But consistent effort through the entire game is the starting point for us to even compete with them.

 

[CarterS]

If we get another 60 point belting does Fagans job come into question?

 

[mpal6]

If we get another 60 point belting does Fagans job come into question?

Game plan comes to question first. Beaten 3 times already and if we're not trying anything that's on both players and coaching group.

Reluctance to change anything in the game plan or players will bring Fagan's job into question.

 

[Squizz89]

Seen plenty of people talking about it the last few weeks in particular so why not a discussion?

This isn’t a Fages bashing thread but I wanted to see what other people thought about the coaching group and our apparent lack of a Plan B during games.

We seem to be totally set on playing our way, which is fine, but as we’ve seen from the past month in particular, when we can’t get the game on our terms we really are an average football team.

We also do not appear to be a team who likes to throw the magnets around, which again can be a good thing but can also limit what we can do during games.

Also, I know it’s easy in hindsight but I wonder if they have any regrets about not blooding any of the depth on our list the last few years. With the injuries we’ve suffered this year it’s really exposed the little of this we have on the list.

We all love Fages and what he’s done for us especially from where we came from, but I do wonder if sometimes we could do things differently.

Just read my original post that began this thread in August 2021. Could literally have written this word for word 12 months later based on our year this year. We haven’t suffered the injuries of last year but we haven’t dropped any of the underperforming senior guys to see what we’ve got in reserve either.

I think if we are saying the same things again in 12 months time he could be in trouble.

 

[On the quiet]

I wonder if Fages and Lethal still catch up regularly for a meal like they did in the early years...would love to know what Leigh thinks of our current situation and his advice to Fagan.

Interested to see what other peoples thoughts are about my take here: I believe we have the personnel to beat Melbourne but is almost solely our game plan vs theirs which doesn’t compete.

Thoughts?

Gawn/Jackson v Oscar/McStay
Oliver v Matho
Viney v Neal
Patracca v Lyons

I rest my case. But do agree regarding the game plan statement

 

[Thomasno]

Honestly

I feel like Daniher messed up our gameplan. Him and Hipwood are basically the same thing - talls with the mind of a small forward.

They’re both not playing anywhere near their best, that’s the issue. Hipwood is coming off an ACL, and Daniher is playing injured.

People seem to forget it looked like a genius move last year when we were flying with both of them fit and firing until hipwood went down.

Daniher too was one of the best forwards in the comp this year before he did his shoulder, he’s gonna need surgery at the end of the season.

 

[On the quiet]

We are going to end up with an age profile gap shortly if we don't play the next group on a consistent basis. If that happens and we lose say Dev, Prior, TBerry, Payne and so on - then the seniors will exit without replacements which will cause a drop for us.

How do we beat Geelong or Melbourne at the 'G' in a Prelim with this current group of seasoned players? They have had plenty of chances, especially in the big games.
Making a Prelim this year could almost be detrimental to us in a few years time as nothing too much will change, except a lot of expectations on an 18 year old to make an immediate impact in 2023.