Coach Fages and the coaching group

[Tom14]

im convinced king is an android controlled by the laptop he carries around everywhere

Heard from someone the other week that Kingy has a clause in his contract ensuring he gets the laptop on tv every week lol.

 

[Schache_off]

King references Geelong's last 6 weeks of the season and that they are the no.1 stoppage team.

Smashed by the Dogs.
Smashed North
Close win over Crows at home
Good win over Freo in Perth
Lost to Saints
Flogged the Eagles at home

Not the best stat to cherry pick. They played 2 of the worst teams for the year and it was hardly convincing form heading into finals, hence why the result against Port was such a surprise. He really thinks they are God like.

 

[Squizz89]

The **** are we watching here? This is so cringe.

 

[T Rick]

So Robbo thinks that King has a vendetta against Fages...has Robbo caught on at last!

 

[Nathan Barley]

The **** are we watching here? This is so cringe.

Someone needs to put a compilation together each week of the stupid shit he says and then pose a nonsensical question in his own style

Will be hard to limit the lowlights package to under an hour though

 

[ZoBlitz]

Someone needs to put a compilation together each week of the stupid shit he says and then pose a nonsensical question in his own style

Will be hard to limit the lowlights package to under an hour though

Reminds me of that fan-made montage that's sadly been deleted of Kingy writing off Geelong over multiple weeks from 2011.

 

[Grasshopper17]

The **** are we watching here? This is so cringe.

Good on Robbo. Never thought I'd say that

The really weird thing is I'm up to the halfway point of the 3rd quarter, we're 6 goals down and I STILL don't think we're playing that badly! (Which supports my original perception watching live at the ground) We've had a couple of skill errors, a couple of decision making errors, a couple of unlucky bounces and the Giants have been good enough to make us pay. To that stage that's pretty much the difference in the game.

It really feels like I'm watching a completely different game to all the "experts" who claimed they'd never seen a more limp exit from a season, that we were playing as tho we'd given up, etc etc etc.

But yeah something something bad coaching something something

 

[Elixuh]

a few days ago I saw an image of kingy at the commentators desk at a game and someone has photoshopped the laptop to be giant and all you can see is the top of his head behind it.

Bloke is an absolute fraud and a *******. Can’t wait to watch it when I get home from the womens.

 

[Elixuh]

lmaooooooo

 

[Tom14]

Good on Robbo. Never thought I'd say that

The really weird thing is I'm up to the halfway point of the 3rd quarter, we're 6 goals down and I STILL don't think we're playing that badly! (Which supports my original perception watching live at the ground) We've had a couple of skill errors, a couple of decision making errors, a couple of unlucky bounces and the Giants have been good enough to make us pay. To that stage that's pretty much the difference in the game.

It really feels like I'm watching a completely different game to all the "experts" who claimed they'd never seen a more limp exit from a season, that we were playing as tho we'd given up, etc etc etc.

But yeah something something bad coaching something something

The shots they showed of poor coaching were us committing horrendous turnovers for the most part.

Like Rayner winning the ball at half forward, hand balling backwards into the centre square to 4 giants half forwards - of course that presents a problem?

I don’t get how we have the best list but they are also all flaky who can’t be trusted. Because that’s the consensus view I see from the media.

The previews and coverage have been kinda unbelievable. This is a cats team that lost to St Kilda about a month ago to lose second spot, not the 2022 team which was all conquering. They faced an easier schedule, and took advantage of it.

I think the cats are the favourites definitely, and a large part of that is coaching, but the media chat this week has been very very weird.

 

[Tom14]

lmaooooooo

Instant follow.

 

[Perrip]

The **** are we watching here? This is so cringe.

Kingy's in the replies to that tweet getting mad at people dunking on his opinion that Fages is a bad coach lol

 

[Grasshopper17]

The shots they showed of poor coaching were us committing horrendous turnovers for the most part.

Like Rayner winning the ball at half forward, hand balling backwards into the centre square to 4 giants half forwards - of course that presents a problem?

I don’t get how we have the best list but they are also all flaky who can’t be trusted. Because that’s the consensus view I see from the media.

The previews and coverage have been kinda unbelievable. This is a cats team that lost to St Kilda about a month ago to lose second spot, not the 2022 team which was all conquering. They faced an easier schedule, and took advantage of it.

I think the cats are the favourites definitely, and a large part of that is coaching, but the media chat this week has been very very weird.

The only way to fix this is to win. Or stop caring about it. One of the two. Ideally both.

 

[Tom14]

The only way to fix this is to win. Or stop caring about it. One of the two. Ideally both.

Totally. It would just have been nice coming off one of the biggest comebacks in finals history - to understand it a bit better.

 

[McIvor]

Totally. It would just have been nice coming off one of the biggest comebacks in finals history - to understand it a bit better.

Except all we’ve heard from King is that he stands by Kingsley braining Fagan in coaching and that line I’ve heard him say three times now that not all coaches that win have successes and not all coaches that have lost has failed or words to that effect, so he’s find a cute way of saying that he stands by Kingsley out coaching Fagan even though the Giants lost.

What a ****wit is David King. Embarrassing

 

[martinson]

Totally. It would just have been nice coming off one of the biggest comebacks in finals history - to understand it a bit better.

Let's face it. Kingy's absolutely filthy we won and is still trying to explain why GWS should've won.

 

[lionsrules]

Hahahahaha David king … that was funny.

 

[martinson]

This other load of BS he sprouts ,don't get beaten by what you know.

I can guarantee every club knows just about everything about any opposition team they face. They'd analyse it minutely.

So if you get beaten it's a living certainty you're going to get beaten by something you know.

Every team has a plan. Implementing it , having the cattle to do it , and what the opposition do are are the issues.

 

[Elixuh]

I just had a chance to what it. Ahhhhhhhh he is so so dumb. He was brained by robbo, ROBBO!

He's so conflicted in whatever agenda he has against Fages he's stopped making sense when challenged. He was incoherent.

 

[western royboy]

I love Fages, and do not want to lose him. But we have to admit that tactically, we were completely out coached last night. We desperately need some tactical nouse in the coaching box.
We have no plan B. I hope Dew stays around and we can work out a few alternatives in the off season.

But for now… onwards and upwards! Life is good

Nailed it - listen from about 45 minutes in for the analysis which has sort of been my criticism all year / for several years

 

[Tom14]

Nailed it - listen from about 45 minutes in for the analysis which has sort of been my criticism all year / for several years

I can’t listen to RoCo - his take has always been ‘gee, I just don’t know about Brisbane’ without anything more offered ever. Rocket at least offers some analysis.

I listened to this weeks and him and rocket were joking about hippy being rested from Tuesdays training as he was ‘unsighted in the game.’ Wouldn’t take more than 2 seconds to google the injury list from a few weeks ago to work out that Eric might be battling through a pretty significant injury!

Anyway here’s the most insightful thing RoCo has ever said:

 

[SeaOfFire]

I can’t listen to RoCo - his take has always been ‘gee, I just don’t know about Brisbane’ without anything more offered ever. Rocket at least offers some analysis.

I listened to this weeks and him and rocket were joking about hippy being rested from Tuesdays training as he was ‘unsighted in the game.’ Wouldn’t take more than 2 seconds to google the injury list from a few weeks ago to work out that Eric might be battling through a pretty significant injury!

Anyway here’s the most insightful thing RoCo has ever said:

I'll pay his comeback there lol

 

[SeaOfFire]

As for Kingy....yeah, well, whatever.....he's a footy analysis expert who has his own axe to grind at times.

I watched it and felt he gave an underwhelming assessment for whatever reason.

Ultimately, I'll stick fat with Fages, who said during the week (?) that we've won more games than anyone over the past 6 years, so we must do some things right - balance that against Kingy's "you can coach poorly and win" and you end up with a rather incongruous conclusion.

In finals, tactics, skills, execution all play a part and those can be coached and trained. What can't be coached in a week or over a season is the mental aspect, often defined by terms like grit, belief, will to win etc. And Robbo on Monday night opined that Fages might be the master of that aspect of coaching.

When you consider who Kingy played under in his premiership years, it is perhaps reasonable to conclude he doesn't have a capacity to rate or even acknowledge that aspect of footy.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Those football shows are usually scripted, so it was interesting to see Robbo get Kingy so riled up. Normally this would be to create controversy and lead to associated clicks, but this time I think King really lost his composure when he was spruiking a narrative that didn't hold up.

 

[Pride of lions]

So Kingsley coached a team that was run over after having a big lead in week 1 of the finals and then was run over again the next week after having an even bigger lead. And King said he gave a masterclass in coaching! The man is delusional, trying to justify his prejudices by twisting the facts to suit his agenda. And then he turns his aggression on anyone who questions his stupidity. He failed as an assistant coach but makes a good living out of spouting meaningless stats and trying to sound like a tactical genius. Embarrassing to think he is looked upon as an expert.