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Sure.

But if he does, if everything others say eventuates, what will you feel then?

I'm interested. You've been rather avoiding the subject, let's see what you think.

If Trump is everything people are saying he is, if Trump means America goes to civil war, how do you feel about cheering him on?
The extremes wont happen. End of.

What if an apocalypse happens? I haven't "avoided" anything, its a stupid question.

If there's a civil war over the result id suspect the very peaceful protestors have a bit to answer for. Of course, you'll ignore that. Im done with this, apologies for not caring about US politics as much as you want me to. Melt away without me
 
The extremes wont happen. End of.

What if an apocalypse happens? I haven't "avoided" anything, its a stupid question.

If there's a civil war over the result id suspect the very peaceful protestors have a bit to answer for. Of course, you'll ignore that. Im done with this, apologies for not caring about US politics as much as you want me to. Melt away without me
I think what Geth is getting at is what I often think about as being “death bed thoughts”. One day you’re gonna be old and sick af and you might start taking stock of your life. This particular phase of western populism might (hopefully) be over, but we’ll all look back on it as history and I dare say you won’t have the same appetite for meme magic and Internet melts. It’s real life, not a movie. Do you really want to be looking back on your life knowing you were barracking for the bad guy? Like, I’m sure you’ll cope, but you’ve got a choice.

Anyway, pretty cringe rant from me.
 
The extremes wont happen. End of.

What if an apocalypse happens? I haven't "avoided" anything, its a stupid question.

If there's a civil war over the result id suspect the very peaceful protestors have a bit to answer for. Of course, you'll ignore that. Im done with this, apologies for not caring about US politics as much as you want me to. Melt away without me
You seem to have this idea that 'nothing that happens in the us will effect me'

Well, if the isolationist Trump gets in, that'll be the end of our alliance with the states. Trump wants it to be 'maga and phuq everyone else' so he'll alienate the states from basically every nation on the earth (except maybe Vlad, but hey no wuckers right?).

That means that Xi and Vlad will have a much easier time tryna stamp their dictatorships on the rest of the world. Coz Trump has said 'nah phuq ya's all'

But nah, nothin to worry about.
 

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You seem to have this idea that 'nothing that happens in the us will effect me'

Well, if the isolationist Trump gets in, that'll be the end of our alliance with the states. Trump wants it to be 'maga and phuq everyone else' so he'll alienate the states from basically every nation on the earth (except maybe Vlad, but hey no wuckers right?).

That means that Xi and Vlad will have a much easier time tryna stamp their dictatorships on the rest of the world. Coz Trump has said 'nah phuq ya's all'

But nah, nothin to worry about.
Again, the extremes wont happen. Stop imagining crap and upsetting yourselves lol
 
The extremes wont happen. End of.

What if an apocalypse happens? I haven't "avoided" anything, its a stupid question.

If there's a civil war over the result id suspect the very peaceful protestors have a bit to answer for. Of course, you'll ignore that. Im done with this, apologies for not caring about US politics as much as you want me to. Melt away without me
The Civil War wouldn't really be over a lost election, but over the erosion of human rights which many predict will follow.
 
The extremes wont happen. End of.

What if an apocalypse happens? I haven't "avoided" anything, its a stupid question.

If there's a civil war over the result id suspect the very peaceful protestors have a bit to answer for. Of course, you'll ignore that. Im done with this, apologies for not caring about US politics as much as you want me to. Melt away without me
Would love to know the rationale for peaceful protesting contributing somewhat to civil war.
 
You seem to have this idea that 'nothing that happens in the us will effect me'

Well, if the isolationist Trump gets in, that'll be the end of our alliance with the states. Trump wants it to be 'maga and phuq everyone else' so he'll alienate the states from basically every nation on the earth (except maybe Vlad, but hey no wuckers right?).

That means that Xi and Vlad will have a much easier time tryna stamp their dictatorships on the rest of the world. Coz Trump has said 'nah phuq ya's all'

But nah, nothin to worry about.
I don’t think it’ll be the end of our alliance with them. But it’ll be hard to get behind his ideologies with a government that is trying to move forward, progressively. Basically it’ll be flag waving racists like Pauline Hanson etc that’ll give voice to the right wing dross and give the extra bit of bite to your extreme types. It’ll give sky news a bigger platform to launch right wing propaganda here.

Yes, Putin and Xi will revel in this. A USA that eats itself from the inside out is a weak one that bodes badly for Australia that is isolated in the pacific at the mercy of China. Very concerning.
 
Again, the extremes wont happen. Stop imagining crap and upsetting yourselves lol
Five people lost their lost their lives on January 6, 2021 when citizens stormed the US Capitol while electoral college votes were being counted.

Is that not extreme?
 
This thread is hilarious. Some of the claims of what Trump will do are so insane therapy is required.

For clarity, I wish the US would pick a President that is not Trump or Biden. The US is the land of the extremes. Surely a sane person can agree you cannot have open borders and 20 million plus illegal immigrants in your country? But the Dems don't support this view. Surely you can agree when you have a school shooting every day cracking down on guns is a good idea. But the Republicans won't agree. Surely we can all get around a woman's right to choose up to a certain point in a pregnancy and then after that allow abortion for medical reasons. But both sides cannot agree. Presumably $34 trillion in debt is only going to lead to the collapse of your country. But the Dems keep spending and Republicans keep helping them.

All of that said and as stupid as Trump can be with his mouth - nobody can realistically argue that Biden has been a better President. In fact Trump versus Biden any sane person could only support Trump. Under Trump there were no wars. Russia didn't invade countries. The Middle East was moving towards peace not more carnage. The economy was booming until COVID, which lasted a lot less than anticipated because of the vaccine developed under Trump's leadership.

Biden has been the worse President in modern history. Letting 9 million illegals into your country. Allowing China, Russia and Iran to expand their influence and in the case of Russia, territory, at the expense of US influence is woeful. Not to mention the lawfare targetting Trump is disgraceful.

If it is Trump vs Biden (and boy I hope it isn't), Trump is the sane pick.

The irony is Trump at his origins is actually closer to the Dems on things like abortion and gun control. If they didn't adopt the fake Russia hoax decent gun reform would have been possible. Trump could have bought the NRA lobby along.
 

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Huh? The lefties Google Gemini literally re-wrote history to put black people in it to replace white people

I think we know which side of politics is doing the book burning here
I'm talking today. Not history, in the current day.




Florida's book banning regime is so extreme even dictionaries and encyclopedias are being banned.
 
And to eliminate any doubt:


“Welcome to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it completely,” Posobiec said as the event began.

“We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.

Trump’s closest allies in Congress have also indicated they would be willing to throw out the rulebook for him. Senator J.D. Vance and Representative Elise Stefanik, both reportedly on the shortlist for Trump’s running mate, have said they would have carried out a coup on January 6, 2021, to keep Trump in power.
 
50% of the US doesn't matter. Most states I think you could call now how they'll vote come election time.

Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Nevada. You're going to need 50% of each of those ELECTORATES voting for Biden to keep Trump out. I say electorates... because it's only those motivated enough to vote for Biden that'll count against the generally very motivated Trump voters.


You can give Trump Nevada and hope for a surprise result somewhere like Georgia, Arizona, Florida, Nebraska, or a crushing Biden win in Maine. So basically Rust Belt (plus one good result across any of those states) will yet again decide the election as per 2016 and 2020... not "50% of America".

You're moving the current needle about 10% to swing any other state from strong Red (think... "I'd vote for dead jellyfish as long as it's not a Democrat" Red) and change the above math. Can't see Biden or nearly any other Democrat moving the needle that much and having it reflect in those Red states. Electoral math heavily favours the party of rural America and that's very much the Republicans at present.
Yet the abortion thing had a popular incumbent governor in Youngkin, who campaigned on abortion bans in Virginia, lost the general assembly to the democrats.

80000 women have been forced to carry rape babies to term, women are dying with non viable pregnancies and obgyns are moving to states without abortion bans.

Women are 50% of the population and even in Kansas - which incidentally hasn’t voted for a Democrat president since 1964 their referendum on abortion was an absolute landslide 60% against to 40% in favour of abortion bans.

All the democrats have to do is hammer this in ads and Trump is gone.

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I'm talking today. Not history, in the current day.




Florida's book banning regime is so extreme even dictionaries and encyclopedias are being banned.
I think the most extreme of all is banning the bible from school libraries but they have done that for many many years now
 
Yet the abortion thing had a popular incumbent governor in Youngkin, who campaigned on abortion bans in Virginia, lost the general assembly to the democrats.

80000 women have been forced to carry rape babies to term, women are dying with non viable pregnancies and obgyns are moving to states without abortion bans.

Women are 50% of the population and even in Kansas - which incidentally hasn’t voted for a Democrat president since 1964 their referendum on abortion was an absolute landslide 60% against to 40% in favour of abortion bans.

All the democrats have to do is hammer this in ads and Trump is gone.

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Do you really think 80,000 rape victims in 12 months have had babies? Utter nonsense

Now before you start, I want more abortions. In fact I would sterilise all men at birth and have them apply for parenting licences before they can breed to show they are financially and emotionally well suited to raise a kid. But surely you can spot made up statistics
 
And to eliminate any doubt:


You do realise the New Republic is about as reputable as Breitbart right?

Mod edit: New Republic
Overall, we rate the New Republic Left biased based on story selection and editorial positions that frequently favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.
Breitbart
Overall, we rate Breitbart Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, the publication of conspiracy theories and propaganda, as well as numerous false claims.
 
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You do realise the New Republic is about as reputable as Breitbart right?

Mod edit: New Republic

Breitbart

Again these media fact checking organisations have been shown time and time again to be extremely left wing. The one you quote was founded by someone who ran a progressive university - it’s left wing bias. Notice how on CNN Trump couldn’t fart without being fact checked? Biden comes in fact checking was heavily reduced. It’s a tool of the left to control the narrative. Just like search engine algorithms.

The right tries to do it through Fox, Breitbart etc they just suck at it compared to the left.

You know when you actually become an intellectual? When you can accept that both sides are full of it, look at all points of view and come to a position have stripped out all biases (including your own).
 
Again these media fact checking organisations have been shown time and time again to be extremely left wing. The one you quote was founded by someone who ran a progressive university - it’s left wing bias. Notice how on CNN Trump couldn’t fart without being fact checked? Biden comes in fact checking was heavily reduced. It’s a tool of the left to control the narrative. Just like search engine algorithms.

The right tries to do it through Fox, Breitbart etc they just suck at it compared to the left.

You know when you actually become an intellectual? When you can accept that both sides are full of it, look at all points of view and come to a position have stripped out all biases (including your own).
Sigh.

The argument posted by Mofra above was thus:
Pro-tip.
The people burning books are not the good guys.
... with these sources in support:
I'm talking today. Not history, in the current day.




Florida's book banning regime is so extreme even dictionaries and encyclopedias are being banned.
And to eliminate any doubt:

You then proceeded not to argue with the variety of sources quoted, but to dispute a single source and equate a website that sources its information and has a clean factcheck record to Breitbart, which has neither of those things. You then proceed to shift the goalposts even further, claiming that factchecking websites are left wing (not incorrect, just left wing) and so are search algorithms.

You're throwing claims out there like wildfire. Might I suggest another gander at the rules of the SRP before continuing?
... and in particular:
Mis- and Disinformation Policy - Removing fake news, shitposters and trolls.

A minority of users engage in conspiracy theorising, and spreading disinformation, fake news, and extreme views on SRP.

Mods will at times fact-check - using a selection of fact-check sites and plain common sense - the most obvious fake news and either label it as such, remove it from conversation, and/or remove users whose contribution is limited to stridently repeating vague and accusatory conspiracies and debunked stories, as if they were fact or just to point-score without advancing discussion. Discussion of these stories in the context of their lack of evidence is of course allowed until it becomes a hinderance to discussion. Occasional mentions that do no harm to a thread will likely go unreported and so mods won't see or remove them.

References to articles on extreme blogs as evidence for extreme theories will be removed, and URLs will be put on the block list.

Members are asked to report fake news with succinct explanations or links - not just "Fake news!" in the report reason field.

We have a forum for conspiracy theories. Topics that stray out of that board will be removed and the poster directed to that board.

A short list of examples of fake news, fringe theories, and conspiracies:

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  • Covid-19 being man-made.
  • Benghazi attacks were a false flag.
  • Q-Anon.
  • Pizzagate
  • Soros controlling the world
  • Every Muslim wants to kill you
  • Every Catholic supports abusive clergy
  • This guy who worked at the CIA in the '80's says aliens visited us...
... and so on.

And yes, mods do get to use tools at hand to decide what is caught in the definition of "vague conspiracy", "debunked story", "plain old shitposting", or at least what is so obviously fake or insufficiently supported by evidence that it is detrimental to the SRP.

Read the rules if you are unsure about what you agreed to on signing up on BigFooty: Terms and rules

Mods do get to decide whether you are capable of posting reasonably. They do get to limit your access if they decide you are not.

What can you do as a user?

  • Put trolls and fake news spammers on ignore. Don't feed them.
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Sigh.

The argument posted by Mofra above was thus:

... with these sources in support:


You then proceeded not to argue with the variety of sources quoted, but to dispute a single source and equate a website that sources its information and has a clean factcheck record to Breitbart, which has neither of those things. You then proceed to shift the goalposts even further, claiming that factchecking websites are left wing (not incorrect, just left wing) and so are search algorithms.

You're throwing claims out there like wildfire. Might I suggest another gander at the rules of the SRP before continuing?
... and in particular:

Nice distortion of what I posted. What I said was every site is biased. The point is to recognise those biases both right and left.

So basically anyone who disagrees with your extreme left bias should not post on this board or be banned. How very totalitarian of you.

FYI I object to many of the same things people hate about the far right - banning abortion, no gun rules, racism etc. But I also recognise the left has its own equally stupid positions - open borders, wealth redistribution, hatred of nationalism, hatred of the nuclear family.

Does that make me a conspiracy theorist on this board?
 
Nice distortion of what I posted. What I said was every site is biased. The point is to recognise those biases both right and left.
The point is, one of these sites is not like the other.

Breitbart is a massive proponent of a variety of conspiracy theories and has a track record of outright lying, that happens to be right wing. The New Republic has a clean fact check record and a history of sourcing its content, that happens to be left wing.

What's being policed here is not ideological bent, but attitude to fact.
So basically anyone who disagrees with your extreme left bias should not post on this board or be banned. How very totalitarian of you.

FYI I object to many of the same things people hate about the far right - banning abortion, no gun rules, racism etc. But I also recognise the left has its own equally stupid positions - open borders, wealth redistribution, hatred of nationalism, hatred of the nuclear family.

Does that make me a conspiracy theorist on this board?
I've referred you to the rules. You're welcome to read them yourself.
 
The point is, one of these sites is not like the other.

Breitbart is a massive proponent of a variety of conspiracy theories and has a track record of outright lying, that happens to be right wing. The New Republic has a clean fact check record and a history of sourcing its content, that happens to be left wing.

What's being policed here is not ideological bent, but attitude to fact.

I've referred you to the rules. You're welcome to read them yourself.

You might want to revisit those rules. I believe it was the Biden Intelligence community that determined the probability was that Covid was made in a Chinese lab. Haven’t been here long enough but is there a way to go back and determine if you listed the Russia hoax and Hunter’s laptop being fake in that list?

If this site existed back in the day presumably the CIA killing JFK would have been a conspiracy right?

That said we can probably agree on most of the others on your list. I’m 50/50 on if Aliens exist largely because I would love a pet ET
 

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