Oppo Camp Finals - The Other Ones

[Tippy78]

Didn’t manage to see a lot of the game but the stats for McStay looked promising.

How did our boy go for those who watched it?

 

[Horaceg]

Did anyone wake up feeling happy this morning, first thing I thought about was Richmond losing and I smiled.

might have been Jacks last game, although I can tolerate him a bit more than before.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Didn’t manage to see a lot of the game but the stats for McStay looked promising.

How did our boy go for those who watched it?

He fought well as a ruck, managed to get some good clearing kicks and provided a strong link-up. Kicked a good goal, brought his teammates into the contest. Thought he was great tbh, one of the best on ground.

 

[Countrypie]

Sparing a thought for the Richmond board poster who after they won last night was looking forward to our game on Saturday, so he could enjoy the melts on either our or the Cat's board because we were "both so confident."

 

[lyfsux]

Uneducable.

Yeah, very poor look.

His season is on the line with 2 minutes left on the clock, and his highest paid player takes a set shot 5 meters out from goal and kicks it over post height to force an ARC review.

And he wants to blame the ARC?!?

+ somebody needs to teach BT and Hardwick how basic trigonometry works. When the ball goes over the post the ARC operator is not looking for a “definitive angle” because there is no such thing. They are simply looking to see if the ball is directly over the post in one angle, and if the ball is also directly over the post from a different angle, then the ball is deemed to have hit the post. Pretty basic really. Any Year 8 Trigonometry student would know that. And the ARC operator did explain that quite clearly.

It was well explained but clearly stuffed it with the first 5 words/initials

Uneducable.

Have to agree

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

While the technology is no doubt an issue with ARC and always has been since the investment in proper cameras has never been made, the core issue in this particular instance is the bad call the goal umpire made saying "I think it's a goal" because even the view we had as viewers it didn't look like a goal.

Throw in the fact that Lynch and none of the other Richmond players were celebrating and it's pretty obvious the goal umpire made the wrong call which has ultimately caused this situation.

 

[Anzacday]

I thought the "unrealistic" paid against Joe was a bit harsh, (despite how ugly it looked).
He would have got his hands to it if not for his teammate.
Even with Lynch's "goal" they might have still lost the game.
Like Carlton, they can F off and come back when they've lost a Grand Final due to umpiring.
PS: Camera triangulation are the new buzz words to explain the overturn last night.

 

[MyManLynch]

Did anyone wake up feeling happy this morning, first thing I thought about was Richmond losing and I smiled.

might have been Jacks last game, although I can tolerate him a bit more than before.

What’s better the kicking Carlton out of the Final 8 in Round 23…watching Richmond fall short in an Elimination Final.
Equally satisfying.

 

[sr36]

Didn’t manage to see a lot of the game but the stats for McStay looked promising.

How did our boy go for those who watched it?

He played first ruck. He showed that he could chop out in the role if we only want to play one ruck.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

It is, but now I'm just picturing a whole lot of 'howzaat' shouts when a kick is dubious

BT was lauding a player in commentary for “splitting the centre of the post”, so anything is possible.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Didn’t manage to see a lot of the game but the stats for McStay looked promising.

How did our boy go for those who watched it?

Stats flattered him, but he was very serviceable in a makeshift role he was thrown into out of necessity.

He is an excellent kick. Decision making, intensity… not so sure.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Nor a Brisbane player to be fair.

They should use coaches reactions, too. Every Brisbane score would have been overturned by Dimma.

They should use my reaction watching it on telly.

 

[magpienato]

TBH I'm more than happy that the decision went against the flogs - but I still dont know how it got overturned (meaning Goal umpires goal call was in correct) from looking at a TV screen from an absurd angle - if it was the Pies we would be furious.

Inconculsive means the goal umpires call is always the best option.

I think it's really the goal umpires fault for making his call a goal. He obviously had zero idea, so his default position should have been the lower score, a behind. That's common goal umpiring practice at least when I used to do it. I agree that there probably wasn't 100% proof to overturn it, but just taking the whole procedural aspect out of it, it's clearly a behind and if not it's hitting the post. The correct decision for the game was made is my belief.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

For those wondering why it's the correct decision and why the decision was made so quickly...



It's pretty simple once you realise lol

If the ball is showing as above the post in all 3 angles then it has to be above the post itself. If it was only one angle, then a depth issue could be at play, but not at all 3 angles

 

[Finn Jim]

I realize BT and all the commentators get their share of criticism. A good number of them have the unenviable task of convincing enraged supporters they aren't biased towards the team they used to play for, all of them say occasionally dumb things.

But in his defense, BT LOVES football, and I'll take a passionate commentator with a genuine love of the game over boring wannabe know-it-alls, commentators who put together random verbose nonsense, commentators who pay more attention to anything other than the game in front of them.

Maybe I'm just used to the monotone commentary of US sports, but the AFL style is to me a quintessential part of the game. Don't hate him too much because they can always replace him with someone worse.

 

[jimmy35]

Oh yeah that was ****ing hilarious. Still smiling today.

 

[MyManLynch]

For those wondering why it's the correct decision and why the decision was made so quickly...



It's pretty simple once you realise lol

If the ball is showing as above the post in all 3 angles then it has to be above the post itself. If it was only one angle, then a depth issue could be at play, but not at all 3 angles

Those 3 angles are too similar. Depth is still an issue.
Require complete different angles to be definitive.
Behind the goals & direct in line with Lynch, ball trajectory & post.
I still think it’s a point…but can’t prove it with all photos released so far.

 

[rdangelo]

Wonder how many Richmond supporters have been ok all this time with the umps decision on Rocca's given behind in the 02 granny

 

[ipswichpies]

That will be the Tigers last hurrah for a while,Sniper ,Reiwoldt and most likely Martin also gone,finished for the time I am glad and I cannot abide Bolton either,all in all a good day,

 

[JB1975]

might have been Jacks last game, although I can tolerate him a bit more than before.

I like Jack R these days. His sooky face and constant whining used to antagonise me, but he improved over time.

Which meant that I could enjoy him as an incredible player.

 

[JoinDate]

Agree with Cousin of Daics. The review system has been a joke since it's inception. How a multi-million dollar company such as the AFL refuse to invest in proper technology is baffling to me.

It's honestly not difficult or incredibly expensive to create a proper standardised system, with enough 120-240Hz cameras to eliminate parallax error, and capture enough detailed information to make definitive judgements.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Those 3 angles are too similar. Depth is still an issue.
Require complete different angles to be definitive.
Behind the goals & direct in line with Lynch, ball trajectory & post.
I still think it’s a point…but can’t prove it with all photos released so far.

Under the circumstances (3 angles combined with Lynch clearly responding like he had missed), pretty safe to say the right call was made

The real problem is the horrible error the goal umpire made thinking it was a goal to begin with

That’s ultimately the only reason there’s a controversy to begin with

 

[Robroy22]

Wonder how many Richmond supporters have been ok all this time with the umps decision on Rocca's given behind in the 02 granny

We could have used an ARC that day!

 

[jathanas]

Agree with Cousin of Daics. The review system has been a joke since it's inception. How a multi-million dollar company such as the AFL refuse to invest in proper technology is baffling to me.

It's honestly not difficult or incredibly expensive to create a proper standardised system, with enough 120-240Hz cameras to eliminate parallax error, and capture enough detailed information to make definitive judgements.

Tennis ball tracking system (hawk-eye?) a case in point. To be fair, it's easier to do this in tennis but in any case better technology exists.

Reading the Tigers board they feel hard done by, but the only reason they are out is because they weren't good enough to secure a double chance. Lynch was 5m out and missed.

Yeah blame the officiating.

 

[Horaceg]

What’s better the kicking Carlton out of the Final 8 in Round 23…watching Richmond fall short in an Elimination Final.
Equally satisfying.

No brainer, Carlton but Im always a sucker for happy endings