List Mgmt. Future Father Son prospects

[giantroo]

Spoiler

Any chance of of draft year lol

Tried to compile a list based on what ever information I could find. If anyone could fill in the rest of the gaps, feel free to assist.

Jackson Archer (2021)
Darby Scott (2021)
Jai Makepeace (2021/22)
Thomas Longmire (2021/22)

Dylan Makepeace (2022)
Cooper Harvey (2022)

Byron Pickett

Byron Pickett

Age

47

Ht

179cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

8.6

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.6

3star

Jnr (2023)
Lucas Rocca (2023)
Billy Longmire (2023)

Ryder Makepeace (2024)
Will Crocker (2024)
Lucas McCartney (2024)
River Stevens (2024) ️

2025
Zach Fairley (2025)
Kayde Pickett (2025)
Owen Simpson (2025)
Archer Grant (2025)
Kai Schwass (2025)

2026
Sam Harris (2026)
Aiden McCartney (2026)

2027-
Marcus Rocca (2027-2028)
Sasha Demetriou (2027-2028)
Suede Makepeace (2027-2028)
James Rock TBC
Jack Petrie (2028)
Conor Rawlings (2029)
Hudson Harvey (2030)
Thomas Colbert (~2031)
Noah McMahon (2031)
Ryder Hansen (2031)
Lenny Firrito (2031)
Mason Sinclair (2032)
Lachlan Goldstein (2033)
Max Firrito (2034)
Xavier Cunnington (2034)
Sebastian Gibson (2034)
Jude Swallow (2035)
Cohen Thomas (2035)
Sonny Sinclair (2037)
Flynn Thompson (2037)
Carter Carey (2037)
Charlie Goldstein (2039)
Kobe Cunnington (2039)
Laker Hansen (2030+)
[Unknown name] Hansen (2030+)
[Unknown name] Colbert (2032+)
Cole Carey (2042) Wayne Carey a dad again at 53 as he welcomes newborn son



Ineligible
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Tyler Welsh (2024) - Son of Scott - Selected by Adelaide
Tom Cochrane (2024) - Son of Stuart - Selected by Port Adelaide
Dusty Giester (2024) - Son of Paul
Jagger Mooney (2025) - Son of Cameron
Dougie Cochrane (2026) - Son of Stuart
Kody Lecras (2026) - Son of Brent
Ethan Abraham - Son of Winnie
Gary Abraham - Son of Winnie
[Unknown name] Abraham - Son of Winnie
Elijah Anderson (2030) - Son of Jed
Jasiah Anderson (2031) - Son of Jed
Archer Harvey (2025) - Son of Shane
Jett Harvey (2028) - Son of Shane
Slater Harvey (2031) - Son of Shane
Louis Thompson (2021) - Son of Nathan
Benjamin Thompson (2023) - Son of Nathan
Jude Dal Santo (2033)
Hendrix Daw (2037)
Isaiah Hall (2038)
Riley Polec (2038)

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

I actually like the new system I just think the valuation of picks in the points system is all wrong. The AFL website says that its based off player salaries from 2000 onwards. I think its common sense that pick number 1 isn't worth double that of pick number 4.

The other major problem I have is that the academy discount is 25% and the F/S discount only 15%. Why is that the case?

Because Sydney needs all the leg up it can gets. While it also has its legs up.

 

[shintemaster]

I actually like the new system I just think the valuation of picks in the points system is all wrong. The AFL website says that its based off player salaries from 2000 onwards. I think its common sense that pick number 1 isn't worth double that of pick number 4.

The other major problem I have is that the academy discount is 25% and the F/S discount only 15%. Why is that the case?

Umm, because the system needs to be stacked to provide an unfair advantage to certain teams.

 

[tales129]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl...mire-john-blakey/story-fnelctok-1227206945805

 

[Dan]

As corrupt as that is......no pointing fight over talent that doesn't wanna be here.

COLA, Academy talent concessions and now potentially poaching FS prospects. Little wonder why that club is mocked and never admired for their accomplishments.

 

[Higgins2Waite]

campaigners!!!

 

[Harris 10]

The chances are by the time both kids are ready to play AFL they'll be living back in Melbourne anyway.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Father son should be separate from academy picks, why use a scale for father son when everybody loves the romanticism of the child of a legend following in his fathers footsteps. Until all clubs have academies there should be an equalisation process factored into the draft. They are completely separate. Bah humbug

 

[Luke72]

The chances are by the time both kids are ready to play AFL they'll be living back in Melbourne anyway.

Good point. We should try to poach Blakey onto our coaching panel to sure things up.

 

[Donkey Chop]

****en Sydney.....pack of leaches.

If I was one of those kids I'd only want to wear the same jumper as my dad, but hey everyone's diffrrent.

 

[Donkey Chop]

They could still choose North Though

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...mire-john-blakey/story-e6frf3e3-1227206945805

SYDNEY has stolen a march on North Melbourne by enrolling the sons of premiership stars John Longmire and John Blakey in its youth academy.

The three boys can be groomed for careers at the Swans, the club Longmire coaches with Blakey his assistant.

The academies afforded to the four northern clubs came under siege last year with Collingwood president Eddie McGuire saying they could “go and get players and hide them away and train them from 12 years of age”.

If they make the grade, the Sydney trio could graduate from the Swans academy onto its senior list — or choose to join North as father-son selections.

Nicholas Blakey (in the under-15s), Thomas Longmire (12) and Billy Longmire (10) flirted with North’s father-son academy in 2013, but haven’t been involved since.

John Longmire celebrates the 1999 premiership with Craig Sholl and Shannon Grant. Source: News Limited

Nicholas Blakey is entrenched in Sydney’s academy and coach Michael O’Loughlin said “there was a lot to like”.

He would also be eligible to Brisbane Lions under the father-son rule.

O’Loughlin said despite the boys’ pedigree the academy was crucial to fostering their talent in the NRL heartland.

“A lot of the (academy) boys play a second sport, so we have a lot of challenges. You’ve got league, union, soccer (and) basketball — it’s a really competitive market,” he said.

The Swans said they had about 550 boys in their academy, helping boost involvement and grow the game’s exposure to the next generation.

John Blakey’s sons are father-son eligible for North Melbourne and Brisbane Lions. Source: News Limited

Former Greater Western Sydney academy manager Lachie Buszard said the academies were vital to growing the talent pool, which benefited all clubs.

He said without the development program it would be significantly harder for Blakey and the Longmires to make it.

AFL recruiters were split over whether the boys should be Sydney or North-bound.

Some said they would be “seething” if they had father-son prospects ripped away.

Others said without the academies the boys could be lost to other sports and pointed out academy graduates allowed more draftees from other states to remain at home.

John Longmire and John Blakey are coaches with Sydney. Source: News Limited

“This academy wasn’t here when I first started in Sydney, so there’s a lot more boys talking about the game and they’re really proud to put their Swans academy shirt on,” O’Loughlin said.

“Nick’s a good, young player.

“He’s got a lot of work to do obviously but certainly from what I’ve seen — I’ve only been at the academy one year — there’s a lot to like. But he’s still very young.”

Longmire’s boys are expected to increase their involvement.

“John Longmire’s definitely got a son involved in the academy, but they come to training once a week and have a bit of fun,” O’Loughlin said.

“It’s more an introduction to footy than identifying them as elite talent, because they’re so young.”

AFL laws stipulate players must have resided in a club’s zone for at least five years to join its academy, which the league and recruiters say is tightly policed.

Last November Gold Coast missed out on No.13 pick Lachie Weller (Fremantle) because he had lived in the zone for four years.

The Kangaroos declined to comment.

The AFL last week moved to reform the controversial academies and father-son draft bidding system.

The overhaul is aimed at placing a fairer value on the special-access picks with clubs to provide feedback to the league this month.

EAD O'Loughlin.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

We have the FS prospect thread already.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Didn't know this was in a thread already. B Tron Twinkletoes feel free to merge.

Done.

 

[King Corey]

Hope that behind the scenes we're at least putting up some kind of fight. Not the worst thing to back up Collingwood on their fight against these farcical concessions.

No idea about the individal prospects of these boys but the idea that any promising North father-son who grows up in NSW, NT, ACT, QLD will end up with an expansion club is infuriating.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Hope that behind the scenes we're at least putting up some kind of fight. Not the worst thing to back up Collingwood on their fight against these farcical concessions.

No idea about the individal prospects of these boys but the idea that any promising North father-son who grows up in NSW, NT, ACT, QLD will end up with an expansion club is infuriating.

I do remember about a week ago a news story that said heavyweights from Collingwood AND North Melbourne were meeting with the powers that be about this.

 

[IschenkoUBeauty]

Yep both blokes can get f***ed if they're keeping their son away from our club. And if both end up playing at the Swans then both men should no longer be welcome in the door at Arden Street.

 

[replicant]

Hope opposition posters are tolerated here (Carlton and Essendon seem to have a zero-tolerance threshold).

The kids will still be eligible as father/sons as i understand. Yes, they'll be in the Academy, but they could still choose to go to North.

In the meantime, they will be under the best coaches in NSW. Despite the angst over the Academy system, if it didn't exist, those kids would either play another sport or would be very unlikely to develop enough in the NSW state leagues to reach a high enough standard. Very few players from NSW do (yes, of course there are exceptions).

Also, Longmire's kids are very young. They won't be eligible for 7 years, at which point who knows if they are still going to be in NSW. If not, they will no longer be in the Academy, and would still be eligible as F/S for you guys.

The situation is no worse than Joe Daniher, who was eligible as F/S for us and Essendon, but was groomed by Essendon who were in the driver's seat because he was in Vic. Or Marc Murphy who was eligible as F/S for Brisbane, but was promised to be picked up by Carlton so he didn't have to move to Qld. These little situations come up every now and again, but it's too early to say how it will turn out. In the meantime, they are getting the best coaching and development, and could still end up at North anyway.

 

[the big lebowski]

The situation is no worse than Joe Daniher, who was eligible as F/S for us and Essendon, but was groomed by Essendon who were in the driver's seat because he was in Vic. Or Marc Murphy who was eligible as F/S for Brisbane, but was promised to be picked up by Carlton so he didn't have to move to Qld. These little situations come up every now and again, but it's too early to say how it will turn out. In the meantime, they are getting the best coaching and development, and could still end up at North anyway.

I disagree. If a kid was available to be selected under father son for 2 clubs then that would be correct. However, Longmire (as it stands) is available as a father son for only North, and also happens to be available under a bullsh1t academy for the swans.

North have no such academy.

Father son should (that is applicable to all clubs) take precedence over a policy that only benefits 4 clubs.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Hope opposition posters are tolerated here (Carlton and Essendon seem to have a zero-tolerance threshold).

The kids will still be eligible as father/sons as i understand. Yes, they'll be in the Academy, but they could still choose to go to North.

In the meantime, they will be under the best coaches in NSW. Despite the angst over the Academy system, if it didn't exist, those kids would either play another sport or would be very unlikely to develop enough in the NSW state leagues to reach a high enough standard. Very few players from NSW do (yes, of course there are exceptions).

Also, Longmire's kids are very young. They won't be eligible for 7 years, at which point who knows if they are still going to be in NSW. If not, they will no longer be in the Academy, and would still be eligible as F/S for you guys.

The situation is no worse than Joe Daniher, who was eligible as F/S for us and Essendon, but was groomed by Essendon who were in the driver's seat because he was in Vic. Or Marc Murphy who was eligible as F/S for Brisbane, but was promised to be picked up by Carlton so he didn't have to move to Qld. These little situations come up every now and again, but it's too early to say how it will turn out. In the meantime, they are getting the best coaching and development, and could still end up at North anyway.

On BF we tend to think the worse of opposition clubs grooming players that are supposed to go to their intended club, in this case North. It can go either way as they could chose to leave north and not fit in here because they're being groomed by Sydney's club culture (l cringe too at the word culture) and mentality, which kids and teens are more suspectiable to than young adults. Anyway, feel free to post on here, we're pretty good about opposition posters, * sympathy thread in particular. Trolls aren't tolerated though.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I have limited knowledge on this particular area of the AFL, besides grooming and developing players, what are the rules with drafting when its comes to F/S that are eligible to other clubs?

 

[Flawed Genius]

Father-son should trump academy players. 100 games from your father at a particular club should always, always mean more than time spent at an academy because you were lucky enough to be talent ID'd.

 

[replicant]

Father-son should trump academy players. 100 games from your father at a particular club should always, always mean more than time spent at an academy because you were lucky enough to be talent ID'd.

But it will if they want it to. If they want to play for North, they will.

I'm sure if they show any potential, North will be getting in touch and starting to make representations. At that point, it'll be up to them which offer they accept.

 

[Marksup]

To be honest I think it's crap as well, however to be honest I only really want the father sons who bleed for this club and there is one reason why.

Luke McDonald.

That kid has set the standard for every father son that comes after him. He wouldn't want to play anywhere else and literally bleeds for the colours like we do. Let's hope this Blakey kid is the same, but if he doesn't know what he wants, let him make the decision. At the end of the day the kid can choose whether he wants to be chosen under father son or not and you'd think if they loved the club it would be unconditional, if he chooses swans let him go.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I'm not too fussed about this.

It's completely logical for the sons of Longmire and Blakey to join an academy based at the the club their fathers are currently involved in. They'll get a lot more guidance and better nurturing as footballers and I have no doubt that both blokes would rather see their sons running around in a North guernsey than a Swans one.

What were they gonna do? Nothing? They live in Sydney. It's free training as far as I'm concerned.

 

[King Corey]

The situation is no worse than Joe Daniher, who was eligible as F/S for us and Essendon, but was groomed by Essendon who were in the driver's seat because he was in Vic. Or Marc Murphy who was eligible as F/S for Brisbane

Essendon and Sydney had equal claims via the same qualification process so was quite different to this scenario.

Carlton gaining Murphy was vastly different because they never had any kind of pre-draft access to him, they had to utilise the #1 pick to claim him and had no theoretical hold on him.