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It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

 

[Perrip]

It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

Text is below. It is much more insightful than I thought it would be. Liveris wants the Vic Park option. It quotes Tim Mander MP as suggesting the government would listen to the Vic Park option if the review recommends that. And, it also suggests Swimming Australia wants a Vic Park Brisbane Arena as well.

In his most candid interview, the president of the Brisbane Organising Committee for the Olympic Games revealed personal anxieties about the city’s “chopping and changing” venue plans, but remains optimistic the government’s 100-day review will finally deliver a positive outcome.
Mr Liveris, speaking on The Courier-Mail and Nova 106.9’s Toward the Games podcast, declared a new stadium at Victoria Park “seems to make the most sense” due to its public transport connections and open space.
“I would love it, to be perfectly frank,” he said.
“If a stadium like that appears at Victoria Park that fits the future of cricket and football perfectly and has private sector funding that gives it a return like Optus Stadium out in Perth of course Andrew Liveris would say wow, what a great answer for the Olympics.
“There’s been other sites proposed but Victoria Park seems to make the most sense.”
Smaller stadiums would deliver a major problem, Mr Liveris said, in raising enough ticket revenue to cover the cost of the Games.
He said being among 80,000 patriotic fans at Paris’ Stade de France reinforced the opportunity Brisbane had to use the Games to transform the city.
“To have something like that to put us the world scene, what a great gift that would be,” he said.
Mr Liveris labelled the seven experts tasked by the state government of recommending the best venue plan for the 2032 Games as very impressive.
With about seven-and-a-half-years to go before Brisbane’s opening ceremony, Mr Liveris insisted this review should be the last.
“I’m losing any ability to relax about it … I have some of my own anxieties,” he said.
“IOC has been visionary in giving us all 10 years because we are new norms and fundamentally what they have allowed us to do is the chopping and changing that has come with these reviews.
“I won’t call it the kiss of death, but I’d like to use the word last for a reason.
“Seven years to go, any pad or room we had to move around on venues and infrastructure … that wiggle room starts to go away.”
“Maybe the chopping and changing will lead to the outcome now we think that is the best outcome.
“Is it noisy and messy? Yeah, but if we land on the right spot … the legacy aspect of this is for Queensland.”
Sport Minister Tim Mander declined to comment on the mounting support for Victoria Park, but hinted the government could accept the outcome of the 100-day review.
“Let’s let the experts make the decisions and make the recommendations, that’s what we’re doing,” he said.
“You don’t appoint experts in an area if you’re not going to listen to them.”
Mr Liveris, an adviser to three US presidents and former chairman of Dow Chemical Company, hoped reviewers would investigate using the private sector to help build two major Games venues – a new stadium and Brisbane Arena – to keep costs down.
“There are people interested in doing it,” he said.
“If that gets into the review which I believe it will, I hope it does … you may end up then with an affordable, very taxpayer-friendly answer on both the arena and the stadium.”
Mr Liveris refused to attribute blame for Brisbane’s shambolic Games planning to any single person, but noted there were “a lot of politicians involved”.
“Do I like having a 24 person board, of which 14 are political appointments? That’s pretty tough,” he said.
“I’ve got a lot of skills. I’m definitely trying to use them all to make sure it’s inclusive and multi stakeholder.”
He insisted the International Olympic Committee were satisfied with Brisbane’s progress and said the city was “setting the benchmark” for its new norms process.
Next year and 2026 have been labelled “pivotal years” for organisers as Brisbane 2032 finalises the sports included in the Games and a venue plan before ramping-up sponsorship advocacy.
Then, Mr Liveris will lead a force of Queensland political and business leaders into the offices of Fortune 200 company CEOs to sell Brisbane’s story.
“I will take the Queensland Tourist Bureau with me, the premier with me, if he wants to come … and say come to Queensland, come here to visit, come here to live, come here to invest and make it part of the economic legacy of having these Games,” he said.
Swimming Australia is in favour of creating a 17,000-seat aquatics centre at Victoria Park that would be downsized to 8000 seats after the Games.
Its preferred option is to host Olympic swimming, diving, water polo and artistic swimming at the centre.

 

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It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

One good thing about the new terms of reference is Liveris and his committee are allowed to send their thoughts to the 100-day review authority.
Prior to that they were not able to comment much as they are employed to run the venues that the government approve for the Games.

 

[mighty_lions]

All from the towards the games podcast


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[Elixuh]

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Bit harsh. Mightly Lions is a good person.

 

[mighty_lions]

Bit harsh. Mightly Lions is a good person.

couldn't read it, what he say?

 

[briztoon]

Bit harsh. Mightly Lions is a good person.

Which mighty lions is it though?

 

[mighty_lions]

Which mighty lions is it though?

im not erics dad

 

[dlanod]

im not erics dad

beardancer is Joe's though...

 

[Andyz]

It sure seems the narrative is changing doesn't it!

It's amazing how much of an influence the media has in all this...I think Miles was running scared when he chose Qsac, too worried he'd be attacked in the media over the spend and wanted an easy out. Being so new to the job he didn't have the ticker to make big decisions.

They have either warmed to the idea or perhaps just kinder towards a liberal government but it seems to me Crisafulli won't really cop any heat if he decides to proceed with Vic park.....and if he does so will make Miles really look really small minded and even insulting to Brisbanites if Qsac is all he thought our city deserves.

Meanwhile Crisafully will be able to parade around Brissie for the rest of his days spruiking how he saved Brisbane and delivered us the world leading sporting precinct we've longed for! And for a similar cost that labour was going to blow on delapidated old venues for no long term benefit at all.

Fingers crossed the Lions are still this darn good when they finally complete it so I can attend a sold out 80,000 strong final there!!

 

[Bjo187]

It sure seems the narrative is changing doesn't it!

It's amazing how much of an influence the media has in all this...I think Miles was running scared when he chose Qsac, too worried he'd be attacked in the media over the spend and wanted an easy out. Being so new to the job he didn't have the ticker to make big decisions.

They have either warmed to the idea or perhaps just kinder towards a liberal government but it seems to me Crisafulli won't really cop any heat if he decides to proceed with Vic park.....and if he does so will make Miles really look really small minded and even insulting to Brisbanites if Qsac is all he thought our city deserves.

Meanwhile Crisafully will be able to parade around Brissie for the rest of his days spruiking how he saved Brisbane and delivered us the world leading sporting precinct we've longed for! And for a similar cost that labour was going to blow on delapidated old venues for no long term benefit at all.

Fingers crossed the Lions are still this darn good when they finally complete it so I can attend a sold out 80,000 strong final there!!

It definitely is a legacy to the individual leader too. Melbourne park is still spoke of here as thanks to John Caine, I don't even know if he was a good leader or what party he was from, but he definitely is recognised for building that. It's the pride of Melbourne the sporting precinct so close to the city. I'm sure Perth and Adelaide premiers that brought those stadiums forward get similar recognition now too.

 

[M Malice]

It sure seems the narrative is changing doesn't it!

It's amazing how much of an influence the media has in all this...I think Miles was running scared when he chose Qsac, too worried he'd be attacked in the media over the spend and wanted an easy out. Being so new to the job he didn't have the ticker to make big decisions.

They have either warmed to the idea or perhaps just kinder towards a liberal government but it seems to me Crisafulli won't really cop any heat if he decides to proceed with Vic park.....and if he does so will make Miles really look really small minded and even insulting to Brisbanites if Qsac is all he thought our city deserves.

Meanwhile Crisafully will be able to parade around Brissie for the rest of his days spruiking how he saved Brisbane and delivered us the world leading sporting precinct we've longed for! And for a similar cost that labour was going to blow on delapidated old venues for no long term benefit at all.

Fingers crossed the Lions are still this darn good when they finally complete it so I can attend a sold out 80,000 strong final there!!

The bolded is true re every topic, it's all about politics, money, message and perception.

 

[Dalions]

We are heading away this weekend so have just gone to do an early vote.
The LNP dude who was there was wearing a Lions Hat and I said, Go Lions, you going to build us a new Stadium?
He answered “Yep, via Consortium at VIC Park”.
Take from that what you will but it Peaked my interest.

There has certainly been some talk of a consortium built stadium but not necessarily at VIC Park, but it would leave some money in the Kitty for the Government to build a new Train Station at VIC Park to access the facility, sounds like a winner to me.

Was my man from the election (as per my post above) on the money?

Lot of talk in that Pod with Liveris about Private money coming into play.
And Generational infrastructure in combination with Private investors.

Things are definitely looking more positive on the VIC Park front.

Crissafulli doesn’t appear to be one to backflip on any decisions the Review finds.

Unless he sways their minds during the process to come up with his option which appeared to be pointing toward the Gabba Re-build unless that was all just spin.

 

[Perrip]

It sure seems the narrative is changing doesn't it!

It's amazing how much of an influence the media has in all this...I think Miles was running scared when he chose Qsac, too worried he'd be attacked in the media over the spend and wanted an easy out. Being so new to the job he didn't have the ticker to make big decisions.

Could be wrong, but didn't 9 News report that Miles only chose QSAC because he didn't want to go with Vic Park and was going to dump the Games, but then Coates suggested QSAC as the alternative venue?

 

[mighty_lions]

Could be wrong, but didn't 9 News report that Miles only chose QSAC because he didn't want to go with Vic Park and was going to dump the Games, but then Coates suggested QSAC as the alternative venue?

Tim arvier reported labor questioned what the cost of dumping the games would be, I don't think that equates to them actually doing it, they chose qsac to bide time, coates got involved because the Olympic movement was on the nose with the Gabba saga

 

[Dalions]

Coates got involved because the Olympic movement was on the nose with the Gabba saga

And only succeeded in making it more on the nose.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Liveris and Schrinner both behind VP is powerful. My concern is that Crisafulli will continue to be weak-willed on this because he feels the need to not annoy people after the mixed response to the new youth crime laws, and go with the Gabba regardless. Here's hoping that doesn't occur.

 

[Andyz]

And only succeeded in making it more on the nose.

I can’t work out Coates’ thinking….largest
& most prestigious sporting event in the world….to host athletics on what looks like a high school carnival venue.

But at the end of the day as a Lions fan I want to be able to take my girls to games that we miss out on currently with all the Gabba sell outs & as a Brisbane resident I want our city to have a stadium as good as all our other cities get to have so we attract more big events & win the test opener back!
Sounds like we may finally be back on track you never know

 

[peetoo]

I can’t work out Coates’ thinking….largest
& most prestigious sporting event in the world….to host athletics on what looks like a high school carnival venue.

But at the end of the day as a Lions fan I want to be able to take my girls to games that we miss out on currently with all the Gabba sell outs & as a Brisbane resident I want our city to have a stadium as good as all our other cities get to have so we attract more big events & win the test opener back!
Sounds like we may finally be back on track you never know

IOC had no other takers. They need to get used to them not being the money sink they once were

Good on Qld if they sharpen their
pencils

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Long, long way to go, but Gout Gout could be an enormous story of this Olympics. In some ways, maybe even as big as Cathy Freeman was for Sydney 2000.

 

[briztoon]

Long, long way to go, but Gout Gout could be an enormous story of this Olympics. In some ways, maybe even as big as Cathy Freeman was for Sydney 2000.

The hype machine is already building. Both here and overseas (USA).

 

[Section 5]

A bit more on Liveris from yesterday.
The article mentions some of the "against" people
A lot more will come out if it does get approval.
I hope Schrinner has done enough consultation with certain parties (heritage, first nations) on his VP Masterplan to smooth the way for a stadium.
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“Access points matter, especially with the Olympics. Where do the athletes come in? Where do the food and beverage come in? Where do the VIPs come in? All of that needs to be solved for economically.

“If a stadium like that appears at Victoria Park, that fits the future of cricket and [Australian rules] football perfectly, and has private sector funding that gives it a return model like Optus Stadium out in Perth, then of course would say ‘wow, what a great answer for the Olympics’.”
Liveris said private investment would be key to delivering the project within the state and federal governments’ $7.1 billion funding envelope.

“If you don’t want to increase the allocation from federal or state government, which neither government does want to do, then the private partnership model comes into play,” he said.

“Here’s the good news – there are people all over the world that do this for a living. There are people in Australia that do this for a living.

Games boss backs in Victoria Park stadium

A new stadium at Victoria Park has received the backing of the man entrusted to lead the delivery of the 2032 Brisbane Olympic Games.

www.theage.com.au

 

[MSB ROYS]

It definitely is a legacy to the individual leader too. Melbourne park is still spoke of here as thanks to John Caine, I don't even know if he was a good leader or what party he was from, but he definitely is recognised for building that. It's the pride of Melbourne the sporting precinct so close to the city. I'm sure Perth and Adelaide premiers that brought those stadiums forward get similar recognition now too.

I remember people from country Victoria would call him, "John Caine, premier of Melbourne". LOL.

 

[Black Panther]

Gout Gout could be an enormous story of this Olympics

He'll be missing due to injury

"Gout Gout out with Gout"

 

[Elixuh]

Seems like the LNP and IOC are getting everyone on message now that the mess of campaigning the election is over. The narrative build is moving much quicker than I thought it would. I suppose you need to be in a good spot with the narrative by the time the report is released so that it is just a continuation of the existing narrative rather than the foundation.