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[Elixuh]

Gold coast mayor announces (again) that their Aquatic Centre upgrade with a roof is a far better option for the Government to hold swimming events
Gold Coast will partially fund the project.
Paywall so i can't read but was on channel 7 today.

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldcoastbulletin.com.au%2Fnews%2Fcouncil%2Fgold-coast-mayors-bold-move-to-secure-olympic-legacy-for-southport-aquatic-centre%2Fnews-story%2F4af13a1612ffbbdcbecbee248e96e113&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Coast%20Aquatic%20Centre%20at%20Southport.,the%20state%20government%20matches%20it.

This was proposed by the IOC way back in 2021 instead of Brisbane Arena.
So easy to get the IOC approval.
It is to have a roof as well as increased capacity.
Below from Austadiums in July 2024

The render clip shown on the news has it looking pretty impressive compared to the below drawing
Doing something far cheaper and that makes sense should be a no brainer.
But we are not in that space yet.

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Seems too common sense to work

 

[Dalions]

Gold coast mayor announces (again) that their Aquatic Centre upgrade with a roof is a far better option for the Government to hold swimming events
Gold Coast will partially fund the project.
Paywall so i can't read but was on channel 7 today.

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldcoastbulletin.com.au%2Fnews%2Fcouncil%2Fgold-coast-mayors-bold-move-to-secure-olympic-legacy-for-southport-aquatic-centre%2Fnews-story%2F4af13a1612ffbbdcbecbee248e96e113&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Coast%20Aquatic%20Centre%20at%20Southport.,the%20state%20government%20matches%20it.

This was proposed by the IOC way back in 2021 instead of Brisbane Arena.
So easy to get the IOC approval.
It is to have a roof as well as increased capacity.
Below from Austadiums in July 2024

The render clip shown on the news has it looking pretty impressive compared to the below drawing
Doing something far cheaper and that makes sense should be a no brainer.
But we are not in that space yet.

How it looks Now
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Drawing with Roof
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Commonwealth Games Image
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Perfect

 

[Elixuh]

Cover the ICB to create more space, build the stadium there and spend a bucket load on park infrastructure for the entire precinct. Rename the park - Olympic Park. DONE.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Cover the ICB to create more space, build the stadium there and spend a bucket load on park infrastructure for the entire precinct. Rename the park - Olympic Park. DONE.

Rubbing my hands in anticipation of the Greens finding something else to whinge about. Probably courtesy of not actually reading the proposal documents.

 

[kalex6251]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

casual observer of this thread so apologies if this has already been discussed

 

[Dalions]

I think that the Schrin Dog needs to offer up what ever $ he can towards the Barrambin development that he can and add it in as part of the Olympic funding to get the whole park area done as part of the development.
Probably the only chance it happens is if there is other funding from somewhere.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I think that the Schrin Dog needs to offer up what ever $ he can towards the Barrambin development that he can and add it in as part of the Olympic funding to get the whole park area done as part of the development.
Probably the only chance it happens is if there is other funding from somewhere.

Double parking fines. Lifted straight from The Games. I need to make a list of all the topics covered in that show and see how many we get ticked off in the next 8 years.

 

[Bjo187]

I feel like such a report can only be written with a clear intention to do it. I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone is going to such an extent without officially contracting it.
On the last page where it lists their major projects, they list Brisbane 2032.

I feel like the whole thing is a charade and this is what the government is actually planning and they are playing a political game to protect themselves from the anti-stadium movements that can influence public opinion when it comes to votes.

Also, looking at that timeline, what other option is possible? A 36 month build seems lean to me. A decision is needed immediately after the 100 days.

I’m certain that this is not even in question anymore

I hope you're right but I feel like governments don't like to take on these projects via the one design company regardless of how good they are.

They typically want the ability to give the contract to a bunch of their mates. Although the liberals wouldn't have as much obligation to the union builders that labor would have. The Tasmanian proposal and this proposal under miles are recent examples of this.

 

[notliondown]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

casual observer of this thread so apologies if this has already been discussed

Slim to none. This is the Brisbane Games, and as a rural dweller we generally understand that.

What we would like is our roads to be fixed given the income we generate for the State please

 

[notliondown]

Covering the ICB is easier - and I would expect cheaper - than excavating down to get under stadium access.

If you are clever you actually create a void with the road cover that means access to under the ground would be at current roadway level off the ICB. The topography does a lot of the work for you. The majority of the structure would be formed on site and simply placed over the roadway.

Some clever design work would mean outside access to the stadium could be done utilising the hills and slopes - less stairways and ramps.

I would also suspect the top stands would also have a pretty awesome view if they took advantage of it.

Vic Park could be really something. Making the most of it's assets should be a priority - and if they do it right it could be something vastly different to a stadium slapped in a paddock. It really could be a legacy piece the city could be proud of.

 

[Perrip]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

Pretty big chance I think. 9 News said in their report the other day that the belief in government is that the review will recommend a more decentralised games rather than just predominantly Brisbane.

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

Not much. The main stadium, if the review recommends that, will definitely be in Brisbane. Brisbane Arena is more at risk of being impacted by the review recommendations + government actions than the stadium.

 

[Section 5]

I don't get the talk on decentralized games.
The Brisbane Olympic games will be coming to
Sydney
Melbourne
Cairns
Townsville
Scenic Rim
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Brisbane

 

[Elixuh]

I don't get the talk on decentralized games.
The Brisbane Olympic games will be coming to
Sydney
Melbourne
Cairns
Townsville
Scenic Rim
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Brisbane

You really just need the opening and closing ceremonies, athletics and a couple of other events in the host city imo.

The rest, who cares.

Half the events could be held anywhere and you wouldn’t know.

 

[dlanod]

You really just need the opening and closing ceremonies, athletics and a couple of other events in the host city imo.

The rest, who cares.

Half the events could be held anywhere and you wouldn’t know.

Triathlon in Sydney Brisbane South Harbour.

Hell, call it South Brisbane Water and you're only 50km off and equally misleading.

 

[Elixuh]

Triathlon in Sydney Brisbane South Harbour.

Hell, call it South Brisbane Water and you're only 50km off and equally misleading.

Green screen the opera house out and replace it with the new casino and we are good

 

[dlanod]

Green screen the opera house out and replace it with the new casino and we are good

Why green screen it? Just build a carbon copy casino in front of it!

 

[mighty_lions]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/olympics-supremo-andrew-liveris-makes-stunning-call-for-new-victoria-park-stadium/news-story/6a872dfb8d297d1d905585301bf176e4

 

[Dalions]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/olympics-supremo-andrew-liveris-makes-stunning-call-for-new-victoria-park-stadium/news-story/6a872dfb8d297d1d905585301bf176e4

Blocked

 

[notliondown]

MSN

Not sure it's the same article but it's pretty positive...

 

[Perrip]

Blocked

It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

 

[Perrip]

It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

Text is below. It is much more insightful than I thought it would be. Liveris wants the Vic Park option. It quotes Tim Mander MP as suggesting the government would listen to the Vic Park option if the review recommends that. And, it also suggests Swimming Australia wants a Vic Park Brisbane Arena as well.

In his most candid interview, the president of the Brisbane Organising Committee for the Olympic Games revealed personal anxieties about the city’s “chopping and changing” venue plans, but remains optimistic the government’s 100-day review will finally deliver a positive outcome.
Mr Liveris, speaking on The Courier-Mail and Nova 106.9’s Toward the Games podcast, declared a new stadium at Victoria Park “seems to make the most sense” due to its public transport connections and open space.
“I would love it, to be perfectly frank,” he said.
“If a stadium like that appears at Victoria Park that fits the future of cricket and football perfectly and has private sector funding that gives it a return like Optus Stadium out in Perth of course Andrew Liveris would say wow, what a great answer for the Olympics.
“There’s been other sites proposed but Victoria Park seems to make the most sense.”
Smaller stadiums would deliver a major problem, Mr Liveris said, in raising enough ticket revenue to cover the cost of the Games.
He said being among 80,000 patriotic fans at Paris’ Stade de France reinforced the opportunity Brisbane had to use the Games to transform the city.
“To have something like that to put us the world scene, what a great gift that would be,” he said.
Mr Liveris labelled the seven experts tasked by the state government of recommending the best venue plan for the 2032 Games as very impressive.
With about seven-and-a-half-years to go before Brisbane’s opening ceremony, Mr Liveris insisted this review should be the last.
“I’m losing any ability to relax about it … I have some of my own anxieties,” he said.
“IOC has been visionary in giving us all 10 years because we are new norms and fundamentally what they have allowed us to do is the chopping and changing that has come with these reviews.
“I won’t call it the kiss of death, but I’d like to use the word last for a reason.
“Seven years to go, any pad or room we had to move around on venues and infrastructure … that wiggle room starts to go away.”
“Maybe the chopping and changing will lead to the outcome now we think that is the best outcome.
“Is it noisy and messy? Yeah, but if we land on the right spot … the legacy aspect of this is for Queensland.”
Sport Minister Tim Mander declined to comment on the mounting support for Victoria Park, but hinted the government could accept the outcome of the 100-day review.
“Let’s let the experts make the decisions and make the recommendations, that’s what we’re doing,” he said.
“You don’t appoint experts in an area if you’re not going to listen to them.”
Mr Liveris, an adviser to three US presidents and former chairman of Dow Chemical Company, hoped reviewers would investigate using the private sector to help build two major Games venues – a new stadium and Brisbane Arena – to keep costs down.
“There are people interested in doing it,” he said.
“If that gets into the review which I believe it will, I hope it does … you may end up then with an affordable, very taxpayer-friendly answer on both the arena and the stadium.”
Mr Liveris refused to attribute blame for Brisbane’s shambolic Games planning to any single person, but noted there were “a lot of politicians involved”.
“Do I like having a 24 person board, of which 14 are political appointments? That’s pretty tough,” he said.
“I’ve got a lot of skills. I’m definitely trying to use them all to make sure it’s inclusive and multi stakeholder.”
He insisted the International Olympic Committee were satisfied with Brisbane’s progress and said the city was “setting the benchmark” for its new norms process.
Next year and 2026 have been labelled “pivotal years” for organisers as Brisbane 2032 finalises the sports included in the Games and a venue plan before ramping-up sponsorship advocacy.
Then, Mr Liveris will lead a force of Queensland political and business leaders into the offices of Fortune 200 company CEOs to sell Brisbane’s story.
“I will take the Queensland Tourist Bureau with me, the premier with me, if he wants to come … and say come to Queensland, come here to visit, come here to live, come here to invest and make it part of the economic legacy of having these Games,” he said.
Swimming Australia is in favour of creating a 17,000-seat aquatics centre at Victoria Park that would be downsized to 8000 seats after the Games.
Its preferred option is to host Olympic swimming, diving, water polo and artistic swimming at the centre.

 

[Section 5]

It's essentially just Andrew Liveris [head of the 2032 organising committee] saying that the Vic Park is the best stadium option

One good thing about the new terms of reference is Liveris and his committee are allowed to send their thoughts to the 100-day review authority.
Prior to that they were not able to comment much as they are employed to run the venues that the government approve for the Games.

 

[mighty_lions]

All from the towards the games podcast


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[Elixuh]

Blocked

Bit harsh. Mightly Lions is a good person.

 

[mighty_lions]

Bit harsh. Mightly Lions is a good person.

couldn't read it, what he say?