News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[Black Panther]

Where did the 18K figure come from? Says 7K on the image above...

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I see.

From what I remember they increased the capacity temporarily at the Sydney Aquatic Centre for the Olympics and then it dropped back down afterwards.

 

[Dalions]

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Have a look at the size of the buildings.
Which one looks more likely to hold 18k?
It think they have the figures the wrong way around.

This one seems a bit more realistic.

 

[Elixuh]

Possibly, but if they can pitch the potential cost savings that comes about by having construction in one area, they might be able to do it. I'm skeptical of that though, given the last regime couldn't even communicate that the some of the money they were spending came from the IOC.

The LNP market themselves as the financial management party, yada yada. I'm interested to see how they spin this and how they manage costs.

Covering the ICB can’t be cheap - is that the deck thing pitched at 1.2b?

I like the expenditure on the parkland to elevate it to something useable for the entire city rather than its current use which is a private park for local residents + a place for hospital discharge people who have no where else to go to wander off into

 

[Section 5]

Gold coast mayor announces (again) that their Aquatic Centre upgrade with a roof is a far better option for the Government to hold swimming events
Gold Coast will partially fund the project.
Paywall so i can't read but was on channel 7 today.

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldcoastbulletin.com.au%2Fnews%2Fcouncil%2Fgold-coast-mayors-bold-move-to-secure-olympic-legacy-for-southport-aquatic-centre%2Fnews-story%2F4af13a1612ffbbdcbecbee248e96e113&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Coast%20Aquatic%20Centre%20at%20Southport.,the%20state%20government%20matches%20it.

This was proposed by the IOC way back in 2021 instead of Brisbane Arena.
So easy to get the IOC approval.
It is to have a roof as well as increased capacity.
Below from Austadiums in July 2024

The render clip shown on the news has it looking pretty impressive compared to the below drawing
Doing something far cheaper and that makes sense should be a no brainer.
But we are not in that space yet.

How it looks Now

Drawing with Roof

Commonwealth Games Image

 

[Grasshopper17]

What are they going to do with an 18,000 swimming venue after the games, where the usual local meet would get no more than a crowd of 800?

National championships would get a few wouldn't they?

 

[Elixuh]

Gold coast mayor announces (again) that their Aquatic Centre upgrade with a roof is a far better option for the Government to hold swimming events
Gold Coast will partially fund the project.
Paywall so i can't read but was on channel 7 today.

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldcoastbulletin.com.au%2Fnews%2Fcouncil%2Fgold-coast-mayors-bold-move-to-secure-olympic-legacy-for-southport-aquatic-centre%2Fnews-story%2F4af13a1612ffbbdcbecbee248e96e113&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Coast%20Aquatic%20Centre%20at%20Southport.,the%20state%20government%20matches%20it.

This was proposed by the IOC way back in 2021 instead of Brisbane Arena.
So easy to get the IOC approval.
It is to have a roof as well as increased capacity.
Below from Austadiums in July 2024

The render clip shown on the news has it looking pretty impressive compared to the below drawing
Doing something far cheaper and that makes sense should be a no brainer.
But we are not in that space yet.

View attachment 2182016

View attachment 2182015

Seems too common sense to work

 

[Dalions]

Gold coast mayor announces (again) that their Aquatic Centre upgrade with a roof is a far better option for the Government to hold swimming events
Gold Coast will partially fund the project.
Paywall so i can't read but was on channel 7 today.

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldcoastbulletin.com.au%2Fnews%2Fcouncil%2Fgold-coast-mayors-bold-move-to-secure-olympic-legacy-for-southport-aquatic-centre%2Fnews-story%2F4af13a1612ffbbdcbecbee248e96e113&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Coast%20Aquatic%20Centre%20at%20Southport.,the%20state%20government%20matches%20it.

This was proposed by the IOC way back in 2021 instead of Brisbane Arena.
So easy to get the IOC approval.
It is to have a roof as well as increased capacity.
Below from Austadiums in July 2024

The render clip shown on the news has it looking pretty impressive compared to the below drawing
Doing something far cheaper and that makes sense should be a no brainer.
But we are not in that space yet.

How it looks Now
View attachment 2182021
Drawing with Roof
View attachment 2182016
Commonwealth Games Image
View attachment 2182015

Perfect

 

[Elixuh]

Cover the ICB to create more space, build the stadium there and spend a bucket load on park infrastructure for the entire precinct. Rename the park - Olympic Park. DONE.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Cover the ICB to create more space, build the stadium there and spend a bucket load on park infrastructure for the entire precinct. Rename the park - Olympic Park. DONE.

Rubbing my hands in anticipation of the Greens finding something else to whinge about. Probably courtesy of not actually reading the proposal documents.

 

[kalex6251]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

casual observer of this thread so apologies if this has already been discussed

 

[Dalions]

I think that the Schrin Dog needs to offer up what ever $ he can towards the Barrambin development that he can and add it in as part of the Olympic funding to get the whole park area done as part of the development.
Probably the only chance it happens is if there is other funding from somewhere.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I think that the Schrin Dog needs to offer up what ever $ he can towards the Barrambin development that he can and add it in as part of the Olympic funding to get the whole park area done as part of the development.
Probably the only chance it happens is if there is other funding from somewhere.

Double parking fines. Lifted straight from The Games. I need to make a list of all the topics covered in that show and see how many we get ticked off in the next 8 years.

 

[Bjo187]

I feel like such a report can only be written with a clear intention to do it. I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone is going to such an extent without officially contracting it.
On the last page where it lists their major projects, they list Brisbane 2032.

I feel like the whole thing is a charade and this is what the government is actually planning and they are playing a political game to protect themselves from the anti-stadium movements that can influence public opinion when it comes to votes.

Also, looking at that timeline, what other option is possible? A 36 month build seems lean to me. A decision is needed immediately after the 100 days.

I’m certain that this is not even in question anymore

I hope you're right but I feel like governments don't like to take on these projects via the one design company regardless of how good they are.

They typically want the ability to give the contract to a bunch of their mates. Although the liberals wouldn't have as much obligation to the union builders that labor would have. The Tasmanian proposal and this proposal under miles are recent examples of this.

 

[notliondown]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

casual observer of this thread so apologies if this has already been discussed

Slim to none. This is the Brisbane Games, and as a rural dweller we generally understand that.

What we would like is our roads to be fixed given the income we generate for the State please

 

[notliondown]

Covering the ICB is easier - and I would expect cheaper - than excavating down to get under stadium access.

If you are clever you actually create a void with the road cover that means access to under the ground would be at current roadway level off the ICB. The topography does a lot of the work for you. The majority of the structure would be formed on site and simply placed over the roadway.

Some clever design work would mean outside access to the stadium could be done utilising the hills and slopes - less stairways and ramps.

I would also suspect the top stands would also have a pretty awesome view if they took advantage of it.

Vic Park could be really something. Making the most of it's assets should be a priority - and if they do it right it could be something vastly different to a stadium slapped in a paddock. It really could be a legacy piece the city could be proud of.

 

[Perrip]

what are the chances regional forces will force lnps hand to decentralise the olympics program (ie gold coast push for swimming....... that said, would have thought swimming was a shoe-in for a central brisbane location given the blue ribbon event it is in some oz sport fans eyes ...... but then again - qld politics and all that )

Pretty big chance I think. 9 News said in their report the other day that the belief in government is that the review will recommend a more decentralised games rather than just predominantly Brisbane.

if a push to decentralise the program gains momentum how would this affect the stadium proposal?

Not much. The main stadium, if the review recommends that, will definitely be in Brisbane. Brisbane Arena is more at risk of being impacted by the review recommendations + government actions than the stadium.

 

[Section 5]

I don't get the talk on decentralized games.
The Brisbane Olympic games will be coming to
Sydney
Melbourne
Cairns
Townsville
Scenic Rim
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Brisbane

 

[Elixuh]

I don't get the talk on decentralized games.
The Brisbane Olympic games will be coming to
Sydney
Melbourne
Cairns
Townsville
Scenic Rim
Sunshine Coast
Gold Coast
Brisbane

You really just need the opening and closing ceremonies, athletics and a couple of other events in the host city imo.

The rest, who cares.

Half the events could be held anywhere and you wouldn’t know.

 

[dlanod]

You really just need the opening and closing ceremonies, athletics and a couple of other events in the host city imo.

The rest, who cares.

Half the events could be held anywhere and you wouldn’t know.

Triathlon in Sydney Brisbane South Harbour.

Hell, call it South Brisbane Water and you're only 50km off and equally misleading.

 

[Elixuh]

Triathlon in Sydney Brisbane South Harbour.

Hell, call it South Brisbane Water and you're only 50km off and equally misleading.

Green screen the opera house out and replace it with the new casino and we are good

 

[dlanod]

Green screen the opera house out and replace it with the new casino and we are good

Why green screen it? Just build a carbon copy casino in front of it!

 

[mighty_lions]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/olympics-supremo-andrew-liveris-makes-stunning-call-for-new-victoria-park-stadium/news-story/6a872dfb8d297d1d905585301bf176e4

 

[Dalions]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/olympics-supremo-andrew-liveris-makes-stunning-call-for-new-victoria-park-stadium/news-story/6a872dfb8d297d1d905585301bf176e4

Blocked

 

[notliondown]

MSN

Not sure it's the same article but it's pretty positive...