Game day information leaked by Dogs player to Adelaide before Elimination Final

[GeorgeMullins]

I will be very disappointed if we here that Adelaide used the information instead of informing the AFL.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more - if the Crows used that information to their advantage, then the club should be disciplined; that's what I believe.

Here in the States, we've had scandals involving one of our football clubs, the Patriots, and the way our NFL has been treating that club from New England - with, basically, kid gloves - makes me think something smells, if you know what I mean, so, yeah, I can understand a club having an unfair advantage.

 

[numchuks]

The Dogs have every right to request an investigation, and they made it clear they're not looking to use it as an excuse. They're the wronged party (if true).

Talia's motivation a bit of a mystery: Even if the Crows were happy to receive / use any info, it wouldn't inspire much faith in his character/loyalty, would it?

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go.

So yeah, it does sound like they are blaming this for the loss. Stinks of whinging from the Dogs.

I highly doubt it was anything other than a bit of harmless brotherly banter.

 

[Kingjames]

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go.

So yeah, it does sound like they are blaming this for the loss. Stinks of whinging from the Dogs.

I highly doubt it was anything other than a bit of harmless brotherly banter.

Yea sure, "harmless brotherly banter"..., if that was the case then why did Ben Stratton feel the need to inform Beveridge of what he heard was leaked, and why the hell would the Bulldogs then start an investigation and request an AFL investigation as well if it was just "harmless brotherly banter"

You're not the smartest cookie are ya.

 

[ManOfClay]

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go..

So murphy isn't allowed to be hurting from the loss at all?

 

[STFU Donnie]

Oh ok. Forgot the Crows are the only team to have stuffed up a coach sacking.

Of course they're not. But few have handled it so ineptly.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go.

So yeah, it does sound like they are blaming this for the loss. Stinks of whinging from the Dogs.

I highly doubt it was anything other than a bit of harmless brotherly banter.

Ha, if that's the inference you drew from Murphy's interview, you need your head checked.

 

[SwampCreature]

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go.

So yeah, it does sound like they are blaming this for the loss. Stinks of whinging from the Dogs.

I highly doubt it was anything other than a bit of harmless brotherly banter.

Anyone else find an accusation of whinging from a North supporter to be extremely hilarious.

 

[MeestaNob]

Would be interesting to know what the info was, Bulldogs should have won the game regardless.

That said, people complaining that the Dogs aren't keeping it in house are missing the point: given the situation there is no meaningful penalty the Dogs can hit the alleged player with, it NEEDS to be something heavy from the AFL.

 

[STFU Donnie]

Would be interesting to know what the info was, Bulldogs should have won the game regardless.

That said, people complaining that the Dogs aren't keeping it in house are missing the point: given the situation there is no meaningful penalty the Dogs can hit the alleged player with, it NEEDS to be something heavy from the AFL.

Of course there is. Don't trade him. Don't delist him. Keep him at the club and make him play every week in the twos. Or whatever they like to call them these days.

 

[MeestaNob]

Of course there is. Don't trade him. Don't delist him. Keep him at the club and make him play every week in the twos. Or whatever they like to call them these days.

That just clogs a spot on the list they have no desire to develop further. How does that help?

 

[SterlingArcher]

Would be interesting to know what the info was, Bulldogs should have won the game regardless.

That said, people complaining that the Dogs aren't keeping it in house are missing the point: given the situation there is no meaningful penalty the Dogs can hit the alleged player with, it NEEDS to be something heavy from the AFL.

NEEDS?

So what did Michael tell Daniel then?

 

[STFU Donnie]

That just clogs a spot on the list they have no desire to develop further. How does that help?

Who said it helps? The issue was punishing the player.

 

[peter conway]

But they're happy to let the media fan the flames of the story, still.

20,151 posts. thank christ i've only read your last 3 and missed the previous 20,148

 

[Crow_Magnon]

Let me guess...Stephen Hill and Bradley Hill are now going to be banned from texting / speaking with each other from here on in, same for Selwood brothers, etc. I'd imagine this is merely making a mountain out of a molehill. Dogs kicked themselves out of the game, and we played our usual unaccountable football, but kicked straight - look how well that turned out the following week.

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Would be interesting to know what the info was, Bulldogs should have won the game regardless.

That said, people complaining that the Dogs aren't keeping it in house are missing the point: given the situation there is no meaningful penalty the Dogs can hit the alleged player with, it NEEDS to be something heavy from the AFL.

^this... except for needing to be a heavy punishment.

At this stage, we don't know what the information was, and we don't know how much was passed on to the rest of the Adelaide group or coaching staff.

The AFL do need to thoroughly investigate it, and if it is found to be significant, then it requires a hefty punishment.
But if its something minor or irrelevent (as others have said - for all we know it was just brotherly banter) then a statement should still come out, and maybe make some sort of example of Talia with a statement/fine, but the reputation is probably punishement enough. (if not a serious breach)

 

[_M_16_]

Without having any idea what information was leaked, and in what way. I doubt it would have had the slightest impact

Even if Daniel Talia went up to the coaches with "big information", you honestly think they would have taken that information on board? Leaking false details "accidently" is one of the oldest and biggest tricks in sport, where you hope your opposition is stupid enough to take the bait and change their strategies or game style to suit yours

Personally if Adelaide took any leak seriously, and being at a professional level, they would be complete f wits

That's why I doubt their was any impact on the game, as I doubt Adelaide wouldn't have seen alarm bells and taken the smart approach

Then again we don't know what info was disclosed. If it was a heap of info from a playbook or email, then perhaps it could have provided some advantage if the Crows thought it was legitimate and it had info about line ups and players positions on plays. The Crows were all over the Dogs in the first half, and took until half time for major strategic changes to be made, and there after the Bulldogs were all over the Crows

This isn't about fans or a club sooking, and not being able to move on from a loss as some d head posters are claiming. If a Crows player leaked, they too would ask the AFL to investigate. Its about the integrity of the club and the game, as well as trust. No matter how trivial the information may be, it is a serious breach that must be dealt with in the same manner

 

[Jumbo]

Let me guess...Stephen Hill and Bradley Hill are now going to be banned from texting / speaking with each other from here on in, same for Selwood brothers, etc. I'd imagine this is merely making a mountain out of a molehill. Dogs kicked themselves out of the game, and we played our usual unaccountable football, but kicked straight - look how well that turned out the following week.

Please stay in the shallow end of the sandpit!

 

[windyhill]

What would he have said to him ? " they kick it to each other AND sometimes handball it to each other"
What an overblown load of rubbish.

 

[_M_16_]

They say their not using it as an excuse, but then their captain is saying they felt they had something special brewing at the Dogs and were sure they would beat Adelaide. And he's not ready to let the issue go.

So yeah, it does sound like they are blaming this for the loss. Stinks of whinging from the Dogs.

I highly doubt it was anything other than a bit of harmless brotherly banter.

When you have to add in "he is not ready to let the issue go" to twist Murphys words around to suit your argument, you immediately lose all credibility. If you even watched the show, he was simply saying they feel there is something special brewing down at the kennel in general, which is the same opinion by many in reference to the club is going places and a good environment. He then said they were confident they would win the game, but it wasn't to be and they were disappointed, period. Not that cheeky little bit you added on the end which he didn't mouth one word of

No idea how you came up with that backwards interpretation

 

[_M_16_]

Let me guess...Stephen Hill and Bradley Hill are now going to be banned from texting / speaking with each other from here on in, same for Selwood brothers, etc. I'd imagine this is merely making a mountain out of a molehill. Dogs kicked themselves out of the game, and we played our usual unaccountable football, but kicked straight - look how well that turned out the following week.

Such a childish rant, grow up. This has stuff all to do with the results of the game or Bulldogs being bitter
Only people making a deal here are people posting silly crap like above

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Of course there is. Don't trade him. Don't delist him. Keep him at the club and make him play every week in the twos. Or whatever they like to call them these days.

Out of contract. He won't be a Bulldog next year.

 

[JPetro83]

In totally unrelated news, Michael Talia is linked with a trade to Adelaide in the local gossip rag

Hes going to Sydney

 

[JPetro83]

Hopefully a storm in a tea cup. the dogs are sooks. They should have handled this internally not drag the AFL into it and now the crows.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Christ on a bike.

Do people seriously think the nature of the information or the result of the game are the key issues here?

A player leaked information to an opposition club immediately before a game - the intent is the issue, not the unquantifiable consequences.

 

[southwest bomber]

Ok, if it was just "brotherly banter" then D. Talia is a flog of a brother.

How does Cheney find out about this conversation between two brothers?

I'd hazard a guess that other brothers in the comp may have accidentally let some sensitive material slip whilst talking to a sibling, the difference being that the sibling understands its sensitive info and keeps it to himself. He doesn't run back to the club with it and land his brother in the shit.

If it's deliberately leaked info designed to hurt the Dogs then both brothers should be either fined or cop a short suspension.

Whilst the Crows did nothing wrong in not reporting the info, it's not a good look for them especially after they got on their high horse over the Essendon/Worsfold situation.

Don't complain, don't explain.