Geelong Cat to front court on drug charges

[tek87]

Eagles are an evil club. Robert Walls should add this club. A disgrace to the afl.

 

[Meow]

Luv the backflip from all cats fans now...hilarious

Lets hope the AFL is consistent and orders and immediate 'third party' investigation of the whole club. Including revealing the number of times Stokes has been tested and if their has been any positive results.

In addition the number of Cats players who have recieved positive drug results in the past few years (no names just numbers)

While cat supporters would like you to believe this is a one off isolated incident involving just 1 idiot, I think the public deserves to know the "whole" truth.

I do believe Stokesy has done the wrong thing and I'm very disappointed in him, but this post, along with a few others, is a steaming pile of crap.
Tell me which Geelong players have tested positive to drugs in the past?
People are quick to jump on a club when a player of that club is involved in an indiscretion, on the footy field or off. If you had any clue whatsoever you would realise we have high moral standards at our club and a good culture, as I believe West Coast have despite the Ben Cousins saga.
It's unfair that shite is hung on the club when in fact only one player was involved. Again, see West Coast. Don't judge a book by it's cover everyone FFS!
I'm more than happy to eat my humble pie and I believe the situation is being dealt with appropriately, but it's ridiculous to suggest our flags will be tainted forever and that our club has a bad culture. This stuff simply comes from those trying to detract attention from our success. Although I guess it always happens when any club wins the flag.
Just look at GALON's post.
/rant.

 

[sutcl09]

Matty Stokes, what an idiot. He is only 25, had a good future in the game, now he can get a Life Ban from the AFL. IDIOT

 

[FOOOOTY]

Robert Walls thinks the sun shines out of Carltons arse, id hardly say hes a great judge

 

[1980GFVideo]

It's quite ridiculous IMO that 1 gram of coke could end a players career or get him 4 years on the sidelines, but assaulting a Taxi Driver(Hurley), bashing your missus(Bock), or beating up a bunch of blokes in the street(Taylor) seem to be looked upon as severely lesser crimes, with much more lenient punishments.

Surely a guy carrying a gram of coke, even if he is to give it to some mates is less of a danger to himself and the community than someone who bashes thier missus or any stranger in the street.

And to aid my thinking I then watch a mother on the news who's fed her 5yr old son 5 shots of grappa, receive a suspended sentence. But of course, let's hang the football player out to dry for having a bit of night powder. meh.

I agree mate. Ive never felt a bloke taking drugs is a dog act. Dont have the ill feeling toward Stokes that I have towards other blokes.

 

[Cohzee]

I disagree with you too Galon. poorly written. Stokes should share a cell with corby. Plus all other cats should be investigated and be under stringent testing.

Eagles are an evil club. Robert Walls should add this club. A disgrace to the afl.

Poor, insignificant Freo.

 

[Pratt = Premiers]

It's quite ridiculous IMO that 1 gram of coke could end a players career or get him 4 years on the sidelines, but assaulting a Taxi Driver(Hurley), bashing your missus(Bock), or beating up a bunch of blokes in the street(Taylor) seem to be looked upon as severely lesser crimes, with much more lenient punishments.

Surely a guy carrying a gram of coke, even if he is to give it to some mates is less of a danger to himself and the community than someone who bashes thier missus or any stranger in the street.

And to aid my thinking I then watch a mother on the news who's fed her 5yr old son 5 shots of grappa, receive a suspended sentence. But of course, let's hang the football player out to dry for having a bit of night powder. meh.

Tend to agree with most of your post here about other peoples offences, but don't agree that what stokes has done is equal or less than them. He might have been caught with 1 gram/ owned up to buying 1 gram, but find it very hard to believe that would be his only run in with drugs. he might have just been wrong place wrong time sort of thing, but i'm guessing this wasn't a once off.
In a tight nit club like Geelong, i also find it very hard to believe he would have been by himself.

So much for the club with the "best culture" in the AFL and so on.

Just very happy this wans't a carlton player as i'm sure the Herald sun would have released a special edition news paper just to report on it.

 

[legend166]

Prove it?

You sound a little full of shit.

Why is per capita use of cannabis far lower in the Netherlands than Australia or New Zealand?

Why has drug use decreased in Portugal across the board since blanket decriminalization?

You remove a lot of the romance factor, when you decriminalize or legalise drugs. As for cost to the tax payer, I think it will ultimately save us far more money.

Less over doses and drug related violence. Less users being a burden on the lagal system through the courts and tax revenue from drugs like cannabis.

Expanding the argument for legalising cannabis to cocaine is a dangerous route to take.

Very different drugs without very different effects and social consequences.

 

[.Shotties.]

Expanding the argument for legalising cannabis to cocaine is a dangerous route to take.

Very different drugs without very different effects and social consequences.

Yeah, God knows that countries like Portugal have had serious problems since they legalised the personal use of drugs.

 

[greenred]

Have to agree with that. The height of hypocrisy from the AFL.

Stokes biggest danger now is that politicians weigh in to enhance their "hard on drugs" stance.
That happens, he's ****ed.

What does Stokes' charge have to do with the AFL? They don't control the police and they don't control the media.

The three strikes drug policy is in no way even remotely related to Stokes' case.

 

[jim boy]

Tend to agree with most of your post here about other peoples offences, but don't agree that what stokes has done is equal or less than them. He might have been caught with 1 gram/ owned up to buying 1 gram, but find it very hard to believe that would be his only run in with drugs. he might have just been wrong place wrong time sort of thing, but i'm guessing this wasn't a once off.

Its hard to say - personally I don't doubt there are a number of players at Geelong who like the white stuff. Its an attractive option for footballers as it allows them to 'party' without the side effects of alcohol (hangovers, bloatedness, weight issues, fitness degredation). Footballers can afford it and footballers have always attracted an unsavoury element of hanger-ons.

On the other hand Geelong, as in the town, has a serious problem with drugs. If they had let Stokes go, the story would have been buried deep within the news - nobody really cares about the head pusher and there has been next-to no mention of his name. But by charging stokes (quite legitimately), it has given the community a real jolt and sent a message that the cops are serious about stopping drugs. It would have to make casual users stop and think.

IMO Stokes should be deregistered for a year, it was a very serious thing he had done wrong - the 'traffiking' aspect is a joke though. The wada codes are setup to punish those who provide drugs to sportsmen and women - think of your tour-de-france team manager if you like.

Of course more relevations may come out, but until they do, then Stokes can only be judged on what we know.

 

[volcboy]

The entire geelong football team should be investigated thoroughly for drug possession and trafficking.

The entire St Kilda football team should be investigated thoroughly for the presence of a backbone.

For a second time.

The first examination on the 26th of September, 2009 could find no trace of any backbone, although it did find some unidentified stains on the blue dress of S. Milne.

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

All the high and mighty Cats fans that threw garbage on my club for players getting drunk on a boat start the back peddeling now

Can you spell KARMA

Heh, saw this post quoted in the Herald Sun today.

 

[bulletproof]

Lets just accept that the vast majority of AFL players are that special combination of arrogant and stupid and these things will just always happen.

 

[Audacious]

has anyone here said how much a gram of coke goes for? An ex of mine bought a gram of speed for $400 so im guessing its a similar price or slightly higher?

Either way, its not the Bali 9 type quantity, but it is more than just a weekends worth thats for sure. Value wise, id guess its about the equivalent of a dope dealer carrying 40-50 sticks around and getting busted. So you cant really brush it off as just 1 gram of white stuff. Pretty serious offense if you ask me. And as a player of his standing he's bloody stupid to have taken the risk in being the mule.

 

[Smoky]

Getting done for getting a mate a gram of Coke... surely he'll just get a slap on the wrist from the courts. Fine, good behavior bond, drug councelling sessions etc... the AFL should just give him a slap on the wrist also... Four years to life... What a f***en joke.

They let players get away with taking drugs and testing positive twice... surely Stokes should be shown some leaniency... let the kid play FFS... its not like he's gunna end up on the next season of underbelly.

 

[Smoky]

has anyone here said how much a gram of coke goes for? An ex of mine bought a gram of speed for $400 so im guessing its a similar price or slightly higher?

Either way, its not the Bali 9 type quantity, but it is more than just a weekends worth thats for sure. Value wise, id guess its about the equivalent of a dope dealer carrying 40-50 sticks around and getting busted. So you cant really brush it off as just 1 gram of white stuff. Pretty serious offense if you ask me. And as a player of his standing he's bloody stupid to have taken the risk in being the mule.

If I tell you what a gram of Coke goes for I might get banned from Bigfooty for life

 

[Maddhew]

has anyone here said how much a gram of coke goes for? An ex of mine bought a gram of speed for $400 so im guessing its a similar price or slightly higher?

Either way, its not the Bali 9 type quantity, but it is more than just a weekends worth thats for sure. Value wise, id guess its about the equivalent of a dope dealer carrying 40-50 sticks around and getting busted. So you cant really brush it off as just 1 gram of white stuff. Pretty serious offense if you ask me. And as a player of his standing he's bloody stupid to have taken the risk in being the mule.

It would be hard to argue 50 sticks is personal use. It would be easier to argue a gram of coke if personal use. I would suggest a gram would be the most commonly bought quantity and most regular users could do it in a night easy(possibly a couple of lines for friends.)

I just cant believe he though that moustache would be a good enough disguise.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

It's quite ridiculous IMO that 1 gram of coke could end a players career or get him 4 years on the sidelines, but assaulting a Taxi Driver(Hurley), bashing your missus(Bock), or beating up a bunch of blokes in the street(Taylor) seem to be looked upon as severely lesser crimes, with much more lenient punishments.

Surely a guy carrying a gram of coke, even if he is to give it to some mates is less of a danger to himself and the community than someone who bashes thier missus or any stranger in the street.

And to aid my thinking I then watch a mother on the news who's fed her 5yr old son 5 shots of grappa, receive a suspended sentence. But of course, let's hang the football player out to dry for having a bit of night powder. meh.

Galon is on the money here.

That said, some need to see the wood for the trees here and realise that:

- Stokes has more than likely snorted coke at some point in his life
- So have some of his teammates
- So have a few to several players at all clubs
- Stating it is "tough shit" etc needs to be said if one of your top 5 gets busted too
- This can happen to anyone at any club so best not to throw too many stones!! Remember Tiger Woods was the most marketable sports person in the world a few months ago, and John Terry was Father of the Year in UK
- We need perspective
- Whole story might get bigger and will have various chapters.


But still there is every chance he will play again and I hope he does. I would write 2010 off however.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Galon is on the money here.

That said, some need to see the wood for the trees here and realise that:

- Stokes has more than likely snorted coke at some point in his life
- So have some of his teammates
- So have a few to several players at all clubs
- Stating it is "tough shit" etc needs to be said if one of your top 5 gets busted too
- This can happen to anyone at any club so best not to throw too many stones!! Remember Tiger Woods was the most marketable sports person in the world a few months ago, and John Terry was Father of the Year in UK
- We need perspective
- Whole story might get bigger and will have various chapters.


But still there is every chance he will play again and I hope he does. I would write 2010 off however.

It goes even higher up than that in the hierachy.

Which is quite pathetic when you consider a certain persons age and their position.

 

[Tony Delaney]

Stokes is a thick head. If he said it was for himself he would have only had a possession charge and possibly played agin this year. He thought it takes the heat off him by saying it was for someone else hence the traffick charge which under AFL/WADA rules will mean he wont play agin. Not the best decision he made i dare say.

 

[Rack Watts]

Mattew Cokes
I see a pattern...
Win premiership, do coke.
At least that means Cousins won't do it again!

Ugh, anyhow enough of the poop.
I hope Geelong treat this very seriously, more seriously than other clubs (including Essendon) have dealt with off-field incidents over the summer.

 

[The Slingshot]

What's the world come to? So the young bloke scores a couple grams for his mates and now his career is over?

Slap on the wrists - yes. Suspended from the club for a limited period of time - yes ok. Stupid thing to do - of course.

Man this stuff is so over hyped ,what is this the 18th century? - get a grip the lot of you. All this melodrama is making me puke- PATHETIC.

 

[weagles_fan]

What's the world come to? So the young bloke scores a couple grams for his mates and now his career is over?

Slap on the wrists - yes. Suspended from the club for a limited period of time - yes ok. Stupid thing to do - of course.

Man this stuff is so over hyped ,what is this the 18th century? - get a grip the lot of you. All this melodrama is making me puke- PATHETIC.

It's the law. WADA clearly states trafficking of illegal substances is a 4 year - life penalty if caught. Legally what he has supposedly done is trafficking. Blame the law if you think it's too harsh.

 

[magic_johnson!]

Stokes is a thick head. If he said it was for himself he would have only had a possession charge and possibly played agin this year. He thought it takes the heat off him by saying it was for someone else hence the traffick charge which under AFL/WADA rules will mean he wont play agin. Not the best decision he made i dare say.

I very highly doubt it was him who made that decision, rather Geelong Football Club's many expensive lawyors. And i think that these lawyors would know a bit more about this than some guy on a footy forum.