No, then he would have moved for nothing.
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Geelong rorting the system
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Nike sponsor hundreds if not thousands of sportspeople and teams- cotton on sponsor what one? A business sponsors and pays a player from another club, while he is playing for said other club and guess what he leaves and goes to club who effectively have already been paying him ha ha- seems legit. Anyway I don’t give a enough shits to continue this discussion- just funny Geelong supporters can be so blinded - they kinda like their coach some weird thing about be so much more high and mighty than everyone else, funny really.
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I think this says much, much more about West Coast than Geelong
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OK, point I was making is that Smith was neither an unrestricted nor a restricted free agent, so either a trade had to be done or he walked into the Draft. You cannot compare that scenario with Baker as different rules applied
How?
Baker was not a free agent. Baker was out of contract. So he would have walked to the draft if a trade couldn't be done.
Yep, or just include it in the soft cap if it comes from a former sponsor, current sponsor or future sponsor.
Adam Simpson owns 2 Hungry Jacks stores, do you recon he got some good deals on those at the time?
What a coincidence
And I really don't like it when it's a senior coach or player. It's not like they are sacrificing income like a new assistant or a Cat B rookie.
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How do you know who your future sponsor is?
Also if you're getting player sponsorships in the cap you're basically banning them. I'll let you pitch that to the AFLPA
Yep,What a coincidence
And I really don't like it when it's a senior coach or player. It's not like they are sacrificing income like a new assistant or a Cat B rookie.
The other solution is to make everything public once you hit a certain threshold, say 500k. Everything going to an individual that is in a salary cap or soft cap above 500k combined is public. Dodgy deals could be seen as not in the cap, therefore lead to scrutiny.
Have 3-5 year rule and put the old deal into the current year’s cap. It would make it a lot harder to rort.
Maybe exclude sponsors who are sports sponsors or promotional in nature & the players are doing the work in photo shoots etc. eg. Nike
It’s the ones like a Finance company which seem a huge stretch.
Well, you could time-limit it so that if, say, Rebel Sport comes on as a sponsor, they need to have a cooling off period of x months from any prior payments to players.
And yes, of course player sponsorships from club sponsors should be considered in the cap, regardless of what the AFLPA thinks. Otherwise you're opening yourself up to situations where player X comes to club Y for $800k under the cap, and also a lovely sponsorship from sponsor Z, which is contingent on you signing for that club.
"Job", come on that's a bit rich. Just look at the title, "Chief of Leadership and Performance". Pretty obvious it's a made up title which has zero to do with finance.
At most he probably does a few Zoom meetings and gives some "motivational talks" and shows up for the odd function. It's a good thing that in both situations people would have name tags as otherwise he wouldn't know these "co-workers" from a bar of soap.
This sounds great. Even though I complain often about the burden of my current gig, I'm going to 'prepare' for my next job by taking up a c-suite title role for my future employer whilst staying at my existing workplace for another couple of years.
I hope your current Boss understands and gives you enough spare time to have a 2nd job. You are going have to tell them about it since nearly every employment contract has it as a condition & they can say no too.
If anyone were to question this, they'd just be a jealous hater of my
I have a strong suspicion that the bolded is a guess at best, or even possibly made up.
Did the Bulldogs ostracize Smith, or did Smith ostracize himself from the Bulldogs? I personally think the plan had been in place for a considerable amount of time. The Cats can be very patient, and it pays off for them.
How the dodgy deal works we will never know.
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'transcended the traditional sponsorship model' - doesn't sound like rorting at all.
Next question.
Are you saying that the AFL got the tribunal to make a error in their case against Cripps, so the lawyers would get involved and drag the case out and so he could play the last two rounds. They must have also known that he would get 3 votes in the last game of the year to win the Brownlow by 1 vote?
Nostradamus or what!!!
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My bad. I misread an article that referred to Jack Graham and Baker
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They knew he was going to win the Brownlow. They also knew that he couldnt get away with it being a fine only - it was far too serious for that. The only way Cripps got away with it was if they screwed up the Tribunal.
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I acknowledged that in another post. Move on!
Once again.....you are saying that the AFL made a deliberate error in their tribunal judgement knowing that the lawyers could get him off.
They did this because they could see in to the future and knew that Cripps who was behind going into the final round of the season was going to get 3 votes in the last game of the year to win by 1 vote?
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How many punishments were handed out to the MRP group, the lawyers and Tribunal group, and everyone else involved in the process?
None. They got the result they wanted. Its not how it ended either, its the results at the time of the report. He was ahead at that time, wasnt he?
And why did the AFL not contest this finding? They had the power to if they wanted.
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Cripps was leading at rd 20.
Incident agaisnt brisbane happened in rd 21. If it's true like you are saying, that the AFL knew who was leading the Brownlow at the time, you would have known that Lachie Neale got the 3 votes in rd 21. So the AFL so would have known Neale was in front at the time Cripps got handed his suspension.
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I just edited my post so you may not have seen it.
"And why did the AFL not contest this finding? They had the power to if they wanted."
They let him get away with it because they wanted him to get away with it.
No-one will remember the circumstances surrounding this in a few years. But we still talk about Corey McKernan.
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