Geelong vs pies final should not be at the mcg.

[PhatBoy]

Omg we've played finals at the MCG for over 100 years, it's the biggest ground so that's where finals get played

I don't recall the likes of Chapman, Bartel and Johnston ever complaining about playing finals on the MCG, it's every player's dream and the whole point of playing footy

Cats once again psyching themselves out

Again, a player didn’t post this thread, one fan did

 

[Back One Out]

Personally I’m fine when the ground isn’t under construction for the cats to play their finals at KP. I also don’t want them touching the G unless they’re playing us, pies, hawks and the tigers away. So all those trans have to travel to KP like we do during the season.
Would help me feel we’ve got a real home ground advantage if they only get to play the ground 2-4 times a year. Feels like they get best of both worlds at the moment, their own home ground and plenty at the G each year.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Again, a player didn’t post this thread, one fan did

Maybe, but my memory of 2019 was one coach C Scott whining for 2 weeks about the QF not being in Geelong. Meanwhile the Pies grew in confidence every day and blitzed the Cats unexpectedly in the first quarter. And here it's happening again and there's more than one fan involved. Your mob never learns, you're playing right into our hands. Keep it up!

 

[PhatBoy]

Maybe, but my memory of 2019 was one coach C Scott whining for 2 weeks about the QF not being in Geelong. Meanwhile the Pies grew in confidence every day and blitzed the Cats unexpectedly in the first quarter. And here it's happening again and there's more than one fan involved. Your mob never learns, you're playing right into our hands. Keep it up!

I doubt our mob gets much of their psychological motivation from a bigfooty thread.

Press conferences work by journalists asking coaches questions which they then answer.

In 2019 he was asked if the club would try and seek a home final and he said they would but knew it would be knocked back, and when he was asked about it repeatedly he literally used the words ‘I’m not going to use one of those inane catchphrases like ‘anywhere anytime’ but I think professional footballers would have to be psychological minnows if discussion about the venue actually impacted their performance.’ He also said there’s nothing they can do about it whether they feel it’s unfair or not.

 

[QuietB]

No, this has never been a thing (outside of the COVID hub years). You win the right to host a final in your home state, the AFL decides the most suitable venue to accommodate the game.

1896-1906 finals were all over the place but mostly played at neutral venues.

1907-1923 every single final was at the MCG

1924 was random and all over the place but all at neutral venues.

1925-1941 every single final was at the MCG

1942-1943 every final was at Princess Park every single final was at the MCG (war years)

1944 every final was at the Junction Oval (war year)

1945 every final was at Princess Park (war year)

1946-1971 every single final was at the MCG

1972- 1991 every single final was at the MCG or Waverley Park.

1992 first interstate final at Subiaco.

1994 two finals at the WACA

1996 two finals at the SCG - interstate finals become pretty normal

2013 after 117 years Kardinia Park gets a final. One final. And Geelong lose. And it never happens again.

 

[Back One Out]

No such thing as "home ground" finals

The lead-up finals are played in the home state of the higher-seeded team at the venue where the AFL can make the most money.

Case in point: the Swans played 10 finals at Stadium Australia from 2002-2015 before the SCG capacity was increased.
For years, they didn't get to play the finals at their home ground. The AFL told them "You are playing at Homebush... STFU!!!"

If for whatever reason, the Dockers decided to build themselves a little boutique stadium with a pint-sized ground over in Fremantle, the AFL would not schedule finals there. They would schedule their finals at Optus Stadium where they can sell more tickets and have a bigger crowd in attendance.

The OP is a peanut. Even the folks on the Geelong Board think so.

 

[Seeds]

Maybe, but my memory of 2019 was one coach C Scott whining for 2 weeks about the QF not being in Geelong. Meanwhile the Pies grew in confidence every day and blitzed the Cats unexpectedly in the first quarter. And here it's happening again and there's more than one fan involved. Your mob never learns, you're playing right into our hands. Keep it up!

So scott was right then.

 

[Seeds]

No such thing as "home ground" finals

The lead-up finals are played in the home state of the higher-seeded team at the venue where the AFL can make the most money.

Case in point: the Swans played 10 finals at Stadium Australia from 2002-2015 before the SCG capacity was increased.
For years, they didn't get to play the finals at their home ground. The AFL told them "You are playing at Homebush... STFU!!!"

If for whatever reason, the Dockers decided to build themselves a little boutique stadium with a pint-sized ground over in Fremantle, the AFL would not schedule finals there. They would schedule their finals at Optus Stadium where they can sell more tickets and have a bigger crowd in attendance.

The OP is a peanut. Even the folks on the Geelong Board think so.

Gws played a prelim in front of 21 thousand fans instead of playing it 30 mins down the road at the scg where they would of got over 30 thousand. So you are wrong.

and why home state. If crowds was the goal (as ridiculous as that is) then what has a boundary 300 km away got to do with it? Play all finals in melbourne at the mcg except for maybe perth finals. But they dont. not even consistent in their bias.

 

[Ricketz]

It will make a mockery of the competition if the clear competition leader is playing its home final in front of 75 thousand screaming pies fans at the ground the pies play 15 games at each season when the pies finished fourth.

we can not have a repeat of the ridiculous 2017 finals series.

surely the competition has moved beyond the amateurish of playing finals where crowds are highest at the expense of fairness. Other professional sports do not do this.

note the grand final is a little different because there are no home sides in a grand final and the crowds arent heavily biased to mcg tenants due to fans travelling and all the neutral fans. So please dont bring grand final arguments into this thread as its not equivalent.

play the game at either kardinia and if thats not possible (it is) then play at least docklands.

for the sake of the competition.

You are 100% correct, Seeds.

But we have to prop up Melbourne the city, as well as their footy clubs, so that they can remain financially viable.

The success they enjoy at our expense also allows the Melbourne Cricket Club to benefit financially, and as we know cricket is a shit heap sport right now, they need all the help they can get.

It's fine. One day they will stop feeding off the Geelong teat.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

So scott was right then.

No, he was an idiot

And still is

 

[Seeds]

No, he was an idiot

And still is

But the the lower ranked team won when they had a final at their home Against a higher ranked team who was playing away. Seems like he was right to complain. Happened in 2017 too against richmond.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

But the the lower ranked team won when they had a final at their home Against a higher ranked team who was playing away. Seems like he was right to complain. Happened in 2017 too against richmond.

Instead of complaining he should say "Our guys are jumping out of our skins and can't wait to get on the MCG. This is what you play footy for. We're hoping to get as many fans there as possible to cheer us on, it should be a cracker."

Kills off all the negative noise instantly.

No way you're playing finals against a Vic club at that little ground, it's a ludicrous idea.

 

[PhatBoy]

Instead of complaining he should say "Our guys are jumping out of our skins and can't wait to get on the MCG. This is what you play footy for. We're hoping to get as many fans there as possible to cheer us on, it should be a cracker."

Kills off all the negative noise instantly.

No way you're playing finals against a Vic club at that little ground, it's a ludicrous idea.

It was 3 years ago. He can’t

 

[Ricketz]

Instead of complaining he should say "Our guys are jumping out of our skins and can't wait to get on the MCG. This is what you play footy for. We're hoping to get as many fans there as possible to cheer us on, it should be a cracker."

Kills off all the negative noise instantly.

No way you're playing finals against a Vic club at that little ground, it's a ludicrous idea.

Oh the hubris and sense of entitlement.

There's a reason the VicFL don't want a Tassie team, they know they are quickly losing their strangle hold.

It's inevitable. Victoria and Melbourne don't own the game, as much as they like to think they do. They are gonna look like right twats for signing up that deal to 2050. It will fall well before then.

You can't have a national game and preference one state only. Every state deserves the financial and social benefits of footy finals.

And really, you know it, that's why you desperately cling to it.

 

[Hardcore North]

Geelong have every right to be filthy. They’ve earned the right to host but A corrupt AFL strikes again. Dollars over integrity. Change the narrative to suit the agenda. Now watch the grossly biased media jump on board to justify it. Chris scott

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has been right for years. It just gets buried under the chorus of boos from the peanuts that claim to be experts, or a media who values big crowds over a fair and even competition and promotes that agenda at every possible opportunity. Sports entertainment over actual sport. Poor excuse for a governing body.

 

[dangerwood]

Guaranteed final in your home state.

Well that didn't answer the question.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Oh the hubris and sense of entitlement.

There's a reason the VicFL don't want a Tassie team, they know they are quickly losing their strangle hold.

It's inevitable. Victoria and Melbourne don't own the game, as much as they like to think they do. They are gonna look like right twats for signing up that deal to 2050. It will fall well before then.

You can't have a national game and preference one state only. Every state deserves the financial and social benefits of footy finals.

And really, you know it, that's why you desperately cling to it.

I agree that there is no justification for the GF to always be at the MCG, have expressed that in another thread, can't recall which one. All finals should be in the home state of the highest ranked team. But any finals in Victoria should be played at the MCG, it's the biggest ground with the best atmosphere, simple as that. Anyone who doesn't want to watch finals at the MCG must have something wrong with them, it's an incredible stadium.

 

[Ricketz]

Geelong have every right to be filthy. They’ve earned the right to host but A corrupt AFL strikes again. Dollars over integrity. Change the narrative to suit the agenda. Now watch the grossly biased media jump on board to justify it. Chris scott has been right for years. It just gets buried under the chorus of boos from the peanuts that claim to be experts, or a media who values big crowds over a fair and even competition and promotes that agenda at every possible opportunity. Sports entertainment over actual sport. Poor excuse for a governing body.

The way I see it, as the game grows, if the AFL keep funneling money to Melbourne then there will be an inevitable breakaway. It's not just Geelong, but every interstate team and their city that loses if they dont have a flexible fixture.

If that happens, Melbourne will be left with a handful of teams beholden to the good old days. And clubs like yours that were continually forced to relocate will join the new national comp.

Either they can do it by choice, or not. But it will happen.

 

[Ricketz]

I agree that there is no justification for the GF to always be at the MCG, have expressed that in another thread, can't recall which one. All finals should be in the home state of the highest ranked team. But any finals in Victoria should be played at the MCG, it's the biggest ground with the best atmosphere, simple as that. Anyone who doesn't want to watch finals at the MCG must have something wrong with them, it's an incredible stadium.

That doesn't help Geelong.

Why would Geelong want to give Melbourne people a leg up at their expense? The city already loses something in the vicinity of 4 to 5 million a year just on the H and A schedule pandering to the likes of the Pies and Tigers.

 

[OniAu]

The way I see it, as the game grows, if the AFL keep funneling money to Melbourne then there will be an inevitable breakaway. It's not just Geelong, but every interstate team and their city that loses if they dont have a flexible fixture.

If that happens, Melbourne will be left with a handful of teams beholden to the good old days. And clubs like yours that were continually forced to relocate will join the new national comp.

Either they can do it by choice, or not. But it will happen.

That absolutely wont happen ever

 

[Corn Cobbers]

It was 3 years ago. He can’t

Looks like he just did! Maybe he's learnt his lesson.

 

[Hardcore North]

I agree that there is no justification for the GF to always be at the MCG, have expressed that in another thread, can't recall which one. All finals should be in the home state of the highest ranked team. But any finals in Victoria should be played at the MCG, it's the biggest ground with the best atmosphere, simple as that. Anyone who doesn't want to watch finals at the MCG must have something wrong with them, it's an incredible stadium.

Finals should be played at the home ground of the finalist who has earned it. Selective rules applied to the select few. Simple as that. Should have nothing to do with atmosphere or money or crowds. It has to do with fairness and preserving the integrity of the competition. Yet here we are. Yet again.

 

[Ricketz]

That absolutely wont happen ever

You're living in a fantasy land.

The are more Aussie Rules players and fans outside of Victoria than in it.

I'd fully switch to a proper national comp tomorrow if it was on offer.

Victorians can only strangle the cat so many times before it is dead.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

So much salt. The Vic finals will be at the MCG, the best ground with the best atmosphere, for the foreseeable future, suck it up!!

I'm off to bed, this is easily the dumbest thread on BF, not worth any more of my time.

 

[PhatBoy]

Looks like he just did! Maybe he's learnt his lesson.

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Well for starters he wasn’t asked a question that was venue related. That was taken straight from his post game press conference on Saturday if I’m not mistaken