No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome**

[Davo23]

I'm the first to support giving people a break when going through a tough time but getting behind the wheel of a car under the influence of alcohol or drugs is not one of those times.

Taxis and Ubers give us absolutely no excuses whatsoever

The problem is the drugs/alcohol cause a person to make bad decisions, including not catching a taxi.

I don't know, in my business I see a lot of people with all sorts of issues, I can't see any point in hammering the kid.
He's made a bad mistake and there will be pretty serious consequences anyway.

 

[Pessimistic]

Drugs?

Will have mental issues before the season ends

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Not that it excuses what he's done, especially if it included driving under the influence, but i've read that his father passed away just a short time ago. Perhaps we should show a little empathy, especially when we don't know all the details yet.

Perhaps if he was attending an all day BBQ he should have left his car at home or when he realised he was six beers down, called the club to take his car home....

 

[Blaze Storm]

Drugs?

If he plays for the Power and doesn't take drugs, he definitely has mental health issues.

 

[arupist]

If he plays for the Power and doesn't take drugs, he definitely has mental health issues.

That's how I feel about Essendon players. Oh, wait .....

 

[Kil Phearns]

Everyone remembers Dicko's goal after the siren to beat Carlton, but the Semi Final v Port at Feral Park was even better.

 

[CD Xbow]

They must have given the Essendon lawyers a quick ring to help come up with that one.

I don't think I would ask the Essendon lawyers anything, well at least about the law. How to destroy a footy club, and what's the best dumpling at the Flower Drum; those sort of things I might ask, but legal advice, no way.

 

[cyrilicious]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/b...-uturn-and-steal-porsche-20161205-gt4mwe.html

poor whitecross got burgled and his porsche stolen

 

[illnino]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/b...-uturn-and-steal-porsche-20161205-gt4mwe.html

poor whitecross got burgled and his porsche stolen

Scum...

 

[Xtreme]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/b...-uturn-and-steal-porsche-20161205-gt4mwe.html

poor whitecross got burgled and his porsche stolen

Explains the helicopters hovering around earlier this morning!

 

[Off The Couch]

Obviously the Porsche belongs to the girlfriend because when I think Whitex I think ute

 

[Gold Member]

Obviously the Porsche belongs to the girlfriend because when I think Whitex I think ute

Landcruiser Troopy...

 

[Dewnior]

Everyone remembers Dicko's goal after the siren to beat Carlton, but the Semi Final v Port at Feral Park was even better.

Photo taken after the 2001 Prelim



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[Mr Lizard]

Photo taken after the 2001 Prelim

2001 prelim was a day game, also that doesn't look like the MCG

 

[savagelunchbox]

Photo taken after the 2001 Prelim

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The unbelievable thing is Goldspink umpired the Semi as well and that was a terrifically umpires game, excluding that first Port goal.

 

[MrFujiMoto]

Interesting seeing quite a few Sydney players went into the GF injured or underdone. it is almost ironic that they did that after 2012. NEVER take injured or underdone players into a GF. The Hawks have open spoken about that poor decision since they beat us in 2012. Seems they didn't listen. Parker, Tippett, McVeigh were all under done or under an injury cloud and all went missing for most of the game. With us we had Burgoyne, Hodge and Ellis all under done or under a cloud and they all performed well below the standard required that day. lessons to be learnt for any club I think

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Interesting seeing quite a few Sydney players went into the GF injured or underdone. it is almost ironic that they did that after 2012. NEVER take injured or underdone players into a GF. The Hawks have open spoken about that poor decision since they beat us in 2012. Seems they didn't listen. Parker, Tippett, McVeigh were all under done or under an injury cloud and all went missing for most of the game. With us we had Burgoyne, Hodge and Ellis all under done or under a cloud and they all performed well below the standard required that day. lessons to be learnt for any club I think

That bloody illness that hit Hodge in 2012 is responsible for many of my grey hairs

 

[Prudster]

Interesting seeing quite a few Sydney players went into the GF injured or underdone. it is almost ironic that they did that after 2012. NEVER take injured or underdone players into a GF. The Hawks have open spoken about that poor decision since they beat us in 2012. Seems they didn't listen. Parker, Tippett, McVeigh were all under done or under an injury cloud and all went missing for most of the game. With us we had Burgoyne, Hodge and Ellis all under done or under a cloud and they all performed well below the standard required that day. lessons to be learnt for any club I think

It's funny the way people interpret things in hindsight though. I wonder, was it a mistake to play Hodge, or Croad, in 2008? Was it a mistake for Sydney to play Goodes in 2012? Cyril in 2014? It's easy to point to players who didn't pay off, but there are also examples of players who ended up being game winners. Obviously it's done on a case by case basis, but when it comes to star players, i would back a lot of them in to have more impact at 75% than the next man in at 100%.

 

[Davo23]

It's funny the way people interpret things in hindsight though. I wonder, was it a mistake to play Hodge, or Croad, in 2008? Was it a mistake for Sydney to play Goodes in 2012? Cyril in 2014? It's easy to point to players who didn't pay off, but there are also examples of players who ended up being game winners. Obviously it's done on a case by case basis, but when it comes to star players, i would back a lot of them in to have more impact at 75% than the next man in at 100%.

Also both Hodge and Ellis were great in 2008, both were huge contributors to the win, so they had the runs on the board.

It was pretty natural for Clarko to take the risk.

 

[cryptor]

It's funny the way people interpret things in hindsight though. I wonder, was it a mistake to play Hodge, or Croad, in 2008? Was it a mistake for Sydney to play Goodes in 2012? Cyril in 2014? It's easy to point to players who didn't pay off, but there are also examples of players who ended up being game winners. Obviously it's done on a case by case basis, but when it comes to star players, i would back a lot of them in to have more impact at 75% than the next man in at 100%.

Well Hodge just had cracked ribs in 2008. I've played sport with cracked ribs before too and assuming they're not so badly cracked to the point they are liable to fracture completely (very unlikely according to my GP) then it just comes down to your tolerance for pain. A non-issue for Hodge.

Croad playing was probably a mistake. Ended his career that day and while you could argue he helped set the tone for the rest of the game, I think you could more easily argue we'd have still won without him. He'll be glad he played though, and got a well deserved medallion.

Cyril technically wasn't injured for the 2014 GF. He'd played for Boxhill in the VFL GF the week prior and made it through. Was underdone but he's obviously capable of being a burst player and did just that.

Goodes in 2012 was (like many of his teammates) very lucky to be in the right places at the right times. Also was the beneficiary of some very fortunate bounces. He was as down in that game as Hodge was for us. It's just those few key plays that he was lucky in that has people thinking he played some sort of blinder despite the knee.

 

[BlueWaterHawk]

Photo taken after the 2001 Prelim

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I'm still fuming about that game. 15 years and it's like yesterday. I've never watched a replay of the first quarter, will have to see if my opinion from the stands was correct one day. Most one sided umpiring in my time as a supporter.

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[MrFujiMoto]

It's funny the way people interpret things in hindsight though. I wonder, was it a mistake to play Hodge, or Croad, in 2008? Was it a mistake for Sydney to play Goodes in 2012? Cyril in 2014? It's easy to point to players who didn't pay off, but there are also examples of players who ended up being game winners. Obviously it's done on a case by case basis, but when it comes to star players, i would back a lot of them in to have more impact at 75% than the next man in at 100%.

Hodgey in 08 was bruised or cracked ribs, so usually playable. Croad was probably a mistake that did backfire, but luckily we still got up. Goodes did his knee in the 2012 game from memory. I thought Cyril was a risk that probably shouldn't have been taken. Saying that, he didn't light it up either. He got through. I would prefer the next role player at 100% than an injured star at 75%. Just a difference of opinion I guess. From that group, which was just an example I know, the only player that went in under a cloud and lit it up was Hodgey in 2008. Goodes was influential but I am sure he injured that knee during the game, unless he aggravated an existing injury. On the flipside Ellis in 2012, Hodge in 2012, Burgoyne in 2012 all had shockers. Parker did his PCL in the prelim and lined up in the GF and had zero impact. Tippett, I take that back, he performed to his usual GF standard. As did Rohan and Lewis Jetta, wait, he wasn't even playing. Didn't notice the difference

 

[Prudster]

Well Hodge just had cracked ribs in 2008. I've played sport with cracked ribs before too and assuming they're not so badly cracked to the point they are liable to fracture completely (very unlikely according to my GP) then it just comes down to your tolerance for pain. A non-issue for Hodge.

Croad playing was probably a mistake. Ended his career that day and while you could argue he helped set the tone for the rest of the game, I think you could more easily argue we'd have still won without him. He'll be glad he played though, and got a well deserved medallion.

Cyril technically wasn't injured for the 2014 GF. He'd played for Boxhill in the VFL GF the week prior and made it through. Was underdone but he's obviously capable of being a burst player and did just that.

Goodes in 2012 was (like many of his teammates) very lucky to be in the right places at the right times. Also was the beneficiary of some very fortunate bounces. He was as down in that game as Hodge was for us. It's just those few key plays that he was lucky in that has people thinking he played some sort of blinder despite the knee.

Hodgey in 08 was bruised or cracked ribs, so usually playable. Croad was probably a mistake that did backfire, but luckily we still got up. Goodes did his knee in the 2012 game from memory. I thought Cyril was a risk that probably shouldn't have been taken. Saying that, he didn't light it up either. He got through. I would prefer the next role player at 100% than an injured star at 75%. Just a difference of opinion I guess. From that group, which was just an example I know, the only player that went in under a cloud and lit it up was Hodgey in 2008. Goodes was influential but I am sure he injured that knee during the game, unless he aggravated an existing injury. On the flipside Ellis in 2012, Hodge in 2012, Burgoyne in 2012 all had shockers. Parker did his PCL in the prelim and lined up in the GF and had zero impact. Tippett, I take that back, he performed to his usual GF standard. As did Rohan and Lewis Jetta, wait, he wasn't even playing. Didn't notice the difference

This is what i'm talking about though. In hindsight, it's easy to categorise these things. Hodge's ribs aren't that bad because he got through the game and starred. If he'd have had a poor game, or further injured them, would it have been a mistake?

But the point is not about whether individual players paid off or not, it's that people assume that not playing those players would have resulted in a better outcome. Take out Tippett, Parker, and McVeigh, and Sydney significantly reduce their chances of winning. I wonder, of the players that could have replaced him, how many would you expect to do better than Parker's 19 disposals, 5 clearances, 9 tackles, and a goal? Was he down on his usual best? Definitely, but he was still better than you'd expect most or all of the players that might have come in to be, not to mention he had the potential to star.

 

[Dave Id]

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv...ts/afl-the-premiership-years-hawthorn/967694/

Bargain!
Little over $4 a Premiership

 

[Ned Ryerson]

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv...ts/afl-the-premiership-years-hawthorn/967694/

Bargain!
Little over $4 a Premiership

At $4.12 per premiership this would be such a cheap collection for a Port or Saints fan. We get slugged so much more. #HawthornProblems