No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #12 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Aphrodite]

As much as I dislike denoey off the field this made me laugh





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Ralphy deleted this tweet hence the above response ...

 

[Aphrodite]

This!

 

[thylacine60]

Imagine a child coming home from school keen to discuss his/her thoughts on social justice, gender equality or just ways to care for others, only to be met with "Get off your high horse!"

 

[RPCB]

Ummm... Pies 'strong stand' of not suspending DeGoey when they say he's done something wrong...

‘Not to be tolerated’: What forced De Goey sanction explained but Pie may play this week

‘Not to be tolerated’: Collingwood officially halts contract talks as De Goey’s worst act revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

So the penalty is $25,000 suspended until the end of the year (because JDG somehow doesn’t have the money today) and Collingwood have pulled the contract offer for JDG (which lets be honest, will be back on the table at the end of the year). Collingwood have a “strong environment that provides a safe and respectful environment for all women, yet, the penalty for disrespect towards women is a slap on the wrist)

I think I am only now realising that the Collingwood Football Club and Jordan De Goey deserve each other.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Note to DeGoey: ADHD does not make you a shit bloke. Being a shit bloke makes you a shit bloke.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Note to DeGoey: ADHD does not make you a s**t bloke. Being a s**t bloke makes you a s**t bloke.

By association, blokes supporting him and thinking he did nothing wrong are also s***t blokes.

How many chances and or red flags does one bloke manage to rack up before even his most ardent supporters and defenders lose respect and faith ?

 

[Gethelred]

It devalues women. The end.

The game itself is played on men and women.

If it is to be an issue, it's one of a society in which people are apportioned value for their appearance and behaviour; in short, it's an argument between sex positive and sex negative feminism.

But then, that's a conversation for a different portion of this website.

 

[MissBlueBagger93]

Anyone seen the movie "10" or "She's out of my league "? Not sure if these movie would still be 'politically correct', but premise of such movies is rating people out of 10.
What's foolish of the Quaynor/Ginnivan vids is having them in a public space given the emotionally charged environment in AFL land... just my opinion...

Mhm I have, but tbh found the Ginnivan/Quaynor remake of Blake Edwards' wonderful 10 lacks much of the original's nuance, thoughtfulness and poignancy. Though Edwards had Mancini on hand to compose a score that elevates these attributes, I found the decision to completely forego a score for their own version a slight misstep. However, it does allow the viewer a unique and unobstructed experience of Ginnivan/Quaynor adapted screenplay.

Gone is Dee Wallace's "What's fair about a man getting older and looking more distinguished and worldly and a woman getting older and looking old?"

and in it's place "She's a 10, but got some bruk up [sic] teeth, like them teeth are going every which way. Like, diagonal...everything"

G & Q also take liberties to tackle themes missing from the original such as the inequalities of wealth, "She's a 9 and a half, but she's homeless" and "When she's a 4, but she's rich".

A nice touch was the obvious homage to Blake Edwards, and write, direct and produce, as Edwards' did for the original. In fact, they even one-up him play the lead roles. By making this artistic choice, could it be that Ginnivan/Quaynor are inverting the male-gaze of the original, and asking the audience to rate them? What would you, the viewer "rate" Ginnivan/Quaynor now, as an 'AFL listed player laying on bed stripped to the waist next to a teammate, giggling and playing a game based upon appearances intertwined with societal, economic, behavioural, geographic settings, and the resulting hypothetical scenarios'?.

As often shown in their brief flashes of brilliance on the football field, they are both competent in misdirection and the theory may not be as farfetched as one may think.

I have read across the internet, and heard on the radio today many differing critical assessments of this new film. And although I'm aware that remakes are often difficult, I found it a disappointing entry into the genre and it's a thumbs down from me, Gene no rating necessary.

Mention must be made of a certain cohort of reviewers who have been quite vocal in their opinion of the film, and for that I'll leave the last word to Hugh (played by Robert Webber), who tells Samantha (Julie Andrews) in the original 10...

"Alright, you ladies may have a biological edge; but, most adult males over the age of 40 more than make up for it in the emotional department. Take my word for it."

 

[bigblueboy]

Mhm I have, but tbh found the Ginnivan/Quaynor remake of Blake Edwards' wonderful 10 lacks much of the original's nuance, thoughtfulness and poignancy. Though Edwards had Mancini on hand to compose a score that elevates these attributes, I found the decision to completely forego a score for their own version a slight misstep. However, it does allow the viewer a unique and unobstructed experience of Ginnivan/Quaynor adapted screenplay.

Gone is Dee Wallace's "What's fair about a man getting older and looking more distinguished and worldly and a woman getting older and looking old?"

and in it's place "She's a 10, but got some bruk up [sic] teeth, like them teeth are going every which way. Like, diagonal...everything"

G & Q also take liberties to tackle themes missing from the original such as the inequalities of wealth, "She's a 9 and a half, but she's homeless" and "When she's a 4, but she's rich".

A nice touch was the obvious homage to Blake Edwards, and write, direct and produce, as Edwards' did for the original. In fact, they even one-up him play the lead roles. By making this artistic choice, could it be that Ginnivan/Quaynor are inverting the male-gaze of the original, and asking the audience to rate them? What would you, the viewer "rate" Ginnivan/Quaynor now, as an 'AFL listed player laying on bed stripped to the waist next to a teammate, giggling and playing a game based upon appearances intertwined with societal, economic, behavioural, geographic settings, and the resulting hypothetical scenarios'?.

As often shown in their brief flashes of brilliance on the football field, they are both competent in misdirection and the theory may not be as farfetched as one may think.

I have read across the internet, and heard on the radio today many differing critical assessments of this new film. And although I'm aware that remakes are often difficult, I found it a disappointing entry into the genre and it's a thumbs down from me, Gene no rating necessary.

Mention must be made of a certain cohort of reviewers who have been quite vocal in their opinion of the film, and for that I'll leave the last word to Hugh (played by Robert Webber), who tells Samantha (Julie Andrews) in the original 10...

"Alright, you ladies may have a biological edge; but, most adult males over the age of 40 more than make up for it in the emotional department. Take my word for it."

Gold.

 

[bigblueboy]

In isolation in itself, yes the incident is not that bad (I have no interest in joining TikTok though) but Collingwood FC actually do seem like they want to fix their culture, especially with regards to how their male players treat and view women.

I am glad the club told the lads to take the video down.
They need some real education on responsible social media usage I believe

Clubs spend literally days educating players on social media.
These guys are both disrespectful and dumb.

 

[Osc1]

Clubs spend literally days educating players on social media.
These guys are both disrespectful and dumb.

I rate your post 10 out of 10

 

[TheCoach16]

Not sure what De Goey has actually done wrong.
He had permission from the club to go, and he partied with consenting adult women and men who looked to be having as much fun as he was.
From all reports he did not partake in any illegal activity, and no one he was with reported any disrespect toward anyone.

A fair bit of virtue signalling going on in the media I think.

 

[katmanblue]

A fair bit of virtue signalling going on in the media I think.

Not only from the media.

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[Stamos]

Mhm I have, but tbh found the Ginnivan/Quaynor remake of Blake Edwards' wonderful 10 lacks much of the original's nuance, thoughtfulness and poignancy. Though Edwards had Mancini on hand to compose a score that elevates these attributes, I found the decision to completely forego a score for their own version a slight misstep. However, it does allow the viewer a unique and unobstructed experience of Ginnivan/Quaynor adapted screenplay.

Gone is Dee Wallace's "What's fair about a man getting older and looking more distinguished and worldly and a woman getting older and looking old?"

and in it's place "She's a 10, but got some bruk up [sic] teeth, like them teeth are going every which way. Like, diagonal...everything"

G & Q also take liberties to tackle themes missing from the original such as the inequalities of wealth, "She's a 9 and a half, but she's homeless" and "When she's a 4, but she's rich".

A nice touch was the obvious homage to Blake Edwards, and write, direct and produce, as Edwards' did for the original. In fact, they even one-up him play the lead roles. By making this artistic choice, could it be that Ginnivan/Quaynor are inverting the male-gaze of the original, and asking the audience to rate them? What would you, the viewer "rate" Ginnivan/Quaynor now, as an 'AFL listed player laying on bed stripped to the waist next to a teammate, giggling and playing a game based upon appearances intertwined with societal, economic, behavioural, geographic settings, and the resulting hypothetical scenarios'?.

As often shown in their brief flashes of brilliance on the football field, they are both competent in misdirection and the theory may not be as farfetched as one may think.

I have read across the internet, and heard on the radio today many differing critical assessments of this new film. And although I'm aware that remakes are often difficult, I found it a disappointing entry into the genre and it's a thumbs down from me, Gene no rating necessary.

Mention must be made of a certain cohort of reviewers who have been quite vocal in their opinion of the film, and for that I'll leave the last word to Hugh (played by Robert Webber), who tells Samantha (Julie Andrews) in the original 10...

"Alright, you ladies may have a biological edge; but, most adult males over the age of 40 more than make up for it in the emotional department. Take my word for it."

POTY right here

 

[Stamos]

Note to DeGoey: ADHD does not make you a s**t bloke. Being a s**t bloke makes you a s**t bloke.

But does ADHD make you book an overseas trip on your 4 days off in the middle of the season?

 

[TheCoach16]

But does ADHD make you book an overseas trip on your 4 days off in the middle of the season?

No. That’s called being a human.

 

[myblueroan]

It devalues women. The end.

Sometimes high horses are good.

 

[myblueroan]

But does ADHD make you book an overseas trip on your 4 days off in the middle of the season?

Yes. Yes it does.

 

[Blues_1864]

Mhm I have, but tbh found the Ginnivan/Quaynor remake of Blake Edwards' wonderful 10 lacks much of the original's nuance, thoughtfulness and poignancy. Though Edwards had Mancini on hand to compose a score that elevates these attributes, I found the decision to completely forego a score for their own version a slight misstep. However, it does allow the viewer a unique and unobstructed experience of Ginnivan/Quaynor adapted screenplay.

Gone is Dee Wallace's "What's fair about a man getting older and looking more distinguished and worldly and a woman getting older and looking old?"

and in it's place "She's a 10, but got some bruk up [sic] teeth, like them teeth are going every which way. Like, diagonal...everything"

...

I spend what feels like dozens of hours here each week... I wade through childish arguments, and childish half-arguments (you know, the ones where you've blocked one combatant but not the other). Just when I think I can't stand any more pointless conflict... then I open a thread where poster after poster says the exact same thing, and somehow that's even worse!

There's plenty of good stuff in between, of course, but sometimes I still wonder why I do it. But a post like this... it makes it all worthwhile, and more! Thank you so much

 

[thylacine60]

I spend what feels like dozens of hours here each week... I wade through childish arguments, and childish half-arguments (you know, the ones where you've blocked one combatant but not the other). Just when I think I can't stand any more pointless conflict... then I open a thread where poster after poster says the exact same thing, and somehow that's even worse!

There's plenty of good stuff in between, of course, but sometimes I still wonder why I do it. But a post like this... it makes it all worthwhile, and more! Thank you so much

I called her early!

 

[katmanblue]

It devalues women. The end.

You realise the people that are rating are hypothetical, right? Who is it actually devaluing?

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[thylacine60]

You realise the people that are rating are hypothetical, right? Who is it actually devaluing?

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gonna give you that one back..........everyone deserves a chance for a re-think.............

 

[Wickzki]

Note to DeGoey: ADHD does not make you a s**t bloke. Being a s**t bloke makes you a s**t bloke.

Thank you for posting this.

My kid has Autism (B) and ADHD. Yet he's genuinely one of the most empathetic and truly kind kids I've ever met. He has every excuse to be the opposite and to be excused for it but he carries himself incredibly well for a 7 year old.

De Goey putting blame on ADHD is just another crutch to resist taking responsibility for his actions.

That support base that he is so thankful for? Way too many enablers and not close to enough pushing accountability.

 

[Wickzki]

Mhm I have, but tbh found the Ginnivan/Quaynor remake of Blake Edwards' wonderful 10 lacks much of the original's nuance, thoughtfulness and poignancy. Though Edwards had Mancini on hand to compose a score that elevates these attributes, I found the decision to completely forego a score for their own version a slight misstep. However, it does allow the viewer a unique and unobstructed experience of Ginnivan/Quaynor adapted screenplay.

Gone is Dee Wallace's "What's fair about a man getting older and looking more distinguished and worldly and a woman getting older and looking old?"

and in it's place "She's a 10, but got some bruk up [sic] teeth, like them teeth are going every which way. Like, diagonal...everything"

G & Q also take liberties to tackle themes missing from the original such as the inequalities of wealth, "She's a 9 and a half, but she's homeless" and "When she's a 4, but she's rich".

A nice touch was the obvious homage to Blake Edwards, and write, direct and produce, as Edwards' did for the original. In fact, they even one-up him play the lead roles. By making this artistic choice, could it be that Ginnivan/Quaynor are inverting the male-gaze of the original, and asking the audience to rate them? What would you, the viewer "rate" Ginnivan/Quaynor now, as an 'AFL listed player laying on bed stripped to the waist next to a teammate, giggling and playing a game based upon appearances intertwined with societal, economic, behavioural, geographic settings, and the resulting hypothetical scenarios'?.

As often shown in their brief flashes of brilliance on the football field, they are both competent in misdirection and the theory may not be as farfetched as one may think.

I have read across the internet, and heard on the radio today many differing critical assessments of this new film. And although I'm aware that remakes are often difficult, I found it a disappointing entry into the genre and it's a thumbs down from me, Gene no rating necessary.

Mention must be made of a certain cohort of reviewers who have been quite vocal in their opinion of the film, and for that I'll leave the last word to Hugh (played by Robert Webber), who tells Samantha (Julie Andrews) in the original 10...

"Alright, you ladies may have a biological edge; but, most adult males over the age of 40 more than make up for it in the emotional department. Take my word for it."

Having two arts degrees all I can say is, I wish you had have been one of my lecturers.

One of my favorite all-time posts on here.

 

[RAPPA]

Far out, these Collingwood players really are failing the common sense test as to appropriate behaviours for professional sportsmen. Whether they like it or not, their actions are and will be scrutinised. Even if the game Ginnivan and Quaynor were playing on TikTok was part of a trend, the subject matter and content is easy bait for the media and very divisive. Collingwood execs would be facepalming at the stupidity of some of their players.