Rumour GFC 2017 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists.

[bulletproof]

I think you pay the salary cap in the event of a retirement unless there is a medical intervention/reason.

 

[bulletproof]

Mcartney is surely best choice for Gold Coast, fantastic development coach. Added bonus for Geelong, he wouldn't stand in the way of one of his 07 boys coming home.....

 

[AM]

Mcartney is surely best choice for Gold Coast, fantastic development coach. Added bonus for Geelong, he wouldn't stand in the way of one of his 07 boys coming home.....

He certainly has the football knowledge. Whether he has the man management skills is open to question. He's a long shot in my view.

I think Rats warrants another go and of the level 4 coaches Caracella would be my choice. His weakness is never having coached in his own right. Very important to get this one right as it's the clubs third crack at it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think you pay the salary cap in the event of a retirement unless there is a medical intervention/reason.

In the case of a medical retirement (ie approved by afl doctor) the club still has to pay the player the rest of his contract but the payout doesnt count within the salary cap for that year (for example GC would still pay ablett his 2018 money but it would be exempt from their 2018 salary cap). This happened for us when egan retired we had to pay him out but it wasn't included in the cap.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

And having Motlop over Ablett is going to help how ???

LOL... At least Motlop gets onto the park...
Ablett can't help us from the Medical room... Or Church... Or whatever he's got his mind set on these days... Obviously not playing football.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

You obviously dont get it.

Gold Coast can overpay Motlop to get a better trade for Ablett. They need to save face with their fan base and be seen to be having a win.

So lets just sit back and watch Motlop leave and get pick 38 as compensation and then try and trade that for Ablett.

Either way we are losing Motlop and gaining Ablett. For me thats a win for the cats as i am only looking at the next couple of seasons where Dangerwood are in their prime.

Yep... Some people OBVIOUSLY don't get it.
Giving a 2nd round pick for Ablett is paying WAY overs.

 

[pussygalore]

if we can pull off Stringer without the need of losing Menzel/Lang/Motlop/Thurlow, I'll be all for it... and prefer that over losing one or more and getting Ablett or D.Smith.

Ablett is not worth it - won't play more than 20 games

D.Smith - happy to pass, i.e. I prefer to keep Menzel Motlop Lang and Thurlow over

Agree. I wouldn't chase any of those players. If they want to come let them come.

 

[Two Planks]

Yep... Some people OBVIOUSLY don't get it.
Giving a 2nd round pick for Ablett is paying WAY overs.

Ok, i will word it differently.

Would you rather get pick 38 or Ablett for Motlop

 

[Larry Donohue]

And all the other upgraded contracts we did for Bews, Kolo, Cocky, Buzza etc ect ect who would have got 100K+ payrises. Not to mention the fact Harry has a backended contract.

To land all three we need to clear at least another 2 maybe 3 fringe players given you need to add in minimum pay players to fill a list.

For all three brace yourself to lose Menz, Lang and Thurlow on top of that. Hopefully it can be GHS instead of Lang or Menz

More than happy to throw in ghs to the thurlow lang or motlop deals.
Really think menz is a finals type player with his composure and his accuracy. Do not want to lose him. I reckon hawk menz ablett smith stringer parfitt mccarthy hold us in very good fwd line stead. Also add danger menegola parsons buzza gregson and stanley to that list.

 

[Larry Donohue]

And if Jimmy was on the books this year, that gives some more SC space going forward that I had not even considered was available.

And I know its not as simple as take from A and give to B, but **** me it makes it hard to comprehend the massively short offer to Menzel.

GO Catters

Unbelievable insult daz

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Ok, i will word it differently.

Would you rather get pick 38 or Ablett for Motlop

Keep Motlop and toss the Suns a 2018 4th rounder for Ablett no more no less... if not we move on 2 better things like Stringer.

 

[Turbocat]

Keep Motlop and toss the Suns a 2018 4th rounder for Ablett no more no less... if not we move on 2 better things like Stringer.

If we trade our R1 2018 for Stringer... we cant trade any other picks from 2018

 

[cats_09]

If we trade our R1 2018 for Stringer... we cant trade any other picks from 2018

Do the Andy
In that situation, if we finalised the Ablett deal first would we then lose the right to trade our 2018 first round pick, or could we still trade the first round pick but no other 2018 picks after that?

 

[pussygalore]

We don't need Ablett at all. He can stay at the Suns or retire. Why is everyone so interested in getting Ablett back to Geelong? Move on and get over it!

Look to the future and the gaps we will need to fill.

Lonergan (retires) - Taylor slots back into defence and maybe Gardner gets an opportunity next season. Also gives Buzza more game time.

Mackie (retires) - Thurlow and Blicavs can slot in there nicely or even the Guthrie boys.

If Menzel or Motlop go we have players on standby and not too concerned. However it does give us a good opportunity for D.Smith or Stringer at the right price. Also it will be interesting to see how Linc and Gregson go next season. I could see Jones and Narkle challenge for those positions too.

The way I see our forward line in 2018:
Cocky, Buzza, Murdoch/Lang
Parfitt, Hawkins, Linc/Gregson/Parsons

Yes, it would be nice to get a Stringer in there but Smith won't come unless he plays in the mid so Paddy or Joel will have to spend more time upforward.

Other forward options - Stanley/ House/ Jones/ Narkle

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

It’s interesting that Danger would prefer to play forward. Obviously he’s also an amazing midfielder and very much a team player so he’ll do what’s best for the team.
Ablett, Smith and Stringer would all play a significant amount of their time forward. With Ablett the only one that would really ‘force’ danger out of the middle. It makes the Rockliff interest more interesting to me. Because he’s a very good midfielder who kicks goals. If Danger moves to more of a forward/mid role as opposed to the other way around. Rockliff could take over his midfield mins.

 

[CatRiot]

I reckon we will get Stringer. I wonder if Pick 33 and Thurlow would do it?!?

 

[Boxhead_31]

If we trade our R1 2018 for Stringer... we cant trade any other picks from 2018

If you're everyone bar Hawthorn no

 

[Seeds]

So devon smith cant even make it into the starting 22 of an injury ravaged prelim side. And here is the real irony. He is being kept out of the game by steve fricken johnson.

Oh yes lets trade away a menzel or motlop to get him. The circle of idiocy.

 

[Seeds]

We don't need Ablett at all. He can stay at the Suns or retire. Why is everyone so interested in getting Ablett back to Geelong? Move on and get over it!

Look to the future and the gaps we will need to fill.

Lonergan (retires) - Taylor slots back into defence and maybe Gardner gets an opportunity next season. Also gives Buzza more game time.

Mackie (retires) - Thurlow and Blicavs can slot in there nicely or even the Guthrie boys.

If Menzel or Motlop go we have players on standby and not too concerned. However it does give us a good opportunity for D.Smith or Stringer at the right price. Also it will be interesting to see how Linc and Gregson go next season. I could see Jones and Narkle challenge for those positions too.

The way I see our forward line in 2018:
Cocky, Buzza, Murdoch/Lang
Parfitt, Hawkins, Linc/Gregson/Parsons

Yes, it would be nice to get a Stringer in there but Smith won't come unless he plays in the mid so Paddy or Joel will have to spend more time upforward.

Other forward options - Stanley/ House/ Jones/ Narkle

The forward line is unbelievably awful. I cant see is even making with finals with that forward line regardless of how good out mids and defenders are. Its terrible.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

Sorry but I wouldn't have thought that getting GAJ back should be a main priority. He's probably got one or maybe two years left . He only played half of the second half of the season due to injuries. I would have thought there are more important deals and drafts to be done before that one , still I'm only a guest here.

I've been saying this for the entire season but for some reason people become irrational and disproportionately emotive about Ablett, as if the last 7 years didn't happen.

 

[Turbocat]

Do the Andy
In that situation, if we finalised the Ablett deal first would we then lose the right to trade our 2018 first round pick, or could we still trade the first round pick but no other 2018 picks after that?

Its R1 or others ... and considering the possibility of Brownless I doubt we will trade the others.

 

[Warsaw Winder]

It’s interesting that Danger would prefer to play forward. Obviously he’s also an amazing midfielder and very much a team player so he’ll do what’s best for the team.
Ablett, Smith and Stringer would all play a significant amount of their time forward. With Ablett the only one that would really ‘force’ danger out of the middle. It makes the Rockliff interest more interesting to me. Because he’s a very good midfielder who kicks goals. If Danger moves to more of a forward/mid role as opposed to the other way around. Rockliff could take over his midfield mins.

Somebody on radio was saying they think Rockliff's decision will just come down to dollars and cents, he won't be doing media post career and was on peanuts for a while starting as a rookie, needs to bank dollars while he's playing. I would assume that we're out of the conversation then

 

[CatRiot]

So devon smith cant even make it into the starting 22 of an injury ravaged prelim side. And here is the real irony. He is being kept out of the game by steve fricken johnson.

Oh yes lets trade away a menzel or motlop to get him. The circle of idiocy.

Its not Stevie J either that's the worst on that Fwd line, they have DeBoer in the side ahead of Devon Smith! He's a hack. They obviously know that Smith is gone, and are not playing him deliberately is my opinion... Probably why Thurlow has been no chance lately, I reckon he's gone for sure, he will be in the Stringer trade no doubts...

 

[CatRiot]

Dawson Simpson is dominating the ruck in the NEAFL this season... Hmmm, I'm not sure what that is saying about that league, I think the WAFL and VFL would be miles ahead of that league for talent....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-20/why-isnt-vfl-ruck-star-nick-meese-playing-afl

 

[Leeds17]

No inside info or anything, but I do wonder if West Coast might come in and offer us & Mitch something crazy, they'll be desperate to top up their midfield, have plenty of cap space & a couple of decent currency players they could move on in Gaff, Darling &/or Lycett for swaps or picks if they really want to change it up that is.

Kennedy doesn't have that many years left & you don't want to waste a spine of McGovern, Nic Nat & Kennedy.