Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader

 

[Cataholic]

St Kilda fans on socials are now discussing what would it take to get SDK

A decent coach and a game plan maybe?

 

[Strange Cat]

Yup only thing worth paying attention too, couldn't give a stuff about the GF or the Brownlow.

Football dead to me till next year it will be too painful watching the GF after such a close loss

Go Swans

 

[Art Vandelay_]

St Kilda fans on socials are now discussing what would it take to get SDK

 

[Pure_Ownage]

St Kilda fans on socials are now discussing what would it take to get SDK

Pick 7 and a large sweetener. Even then we wouldnt do it. Realistically we would want 12 months to plan and trade in a quality kpd or ruck to replace him its too late in the piece to do it now. Revisit next year.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

I said it on the SDK trade thread that if we held Rata or all people to his contract, we sure as shit are doing the same to SDK.

Even if he does want out, then he will have to wait until next year.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

I must’ve been watching different games to you then, didn’t look like it at VFL level let alone AFL.

In the first half of the season he was the only way we stayed in games, the rest of the backline was poor. His intercept marking and kicking from the back drove the team forward.
Hey we all see the game differently but I liked what I saw. If players like him and Foster get delisted I’m not going to be too upset. I just think they’ve shown some things to work with and as key position players I’d like to see where they go with another year of development.

 

[sexyhunk]

St Kilda fans on socials are now discussing what would it take to get SDK

but why would SDK go there? if is just money, there plenty of options around the league.

 

[Son_Of_God29]

St Kilda fans on socials are now discussing what would it take to get SDK

Pick 7 + F1 + F2

SDK + Pick 37 + F3

 

[Footy Smarts]

I said it on the SDK trade thread that if we held Rata or all people to his contract, we sure as shit are doing the same to SDK.

Even if he does want out, then he will have to wait until next year.

Ratugolea had no significant value. SDK has a lot of value.

It completely depends on what we think are the chances that he stays and reaches his potential with us. If we're confident then he's untradeable at any value.

If we think he's a risk and a team is willing to put up enough that we effectively trade out SDK for Smith and a significant pick upgrade (eg SDK + 15 for Smith + 7) then we'd have to think about it.

 

[Two Planks]

Pick 7 and Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

for SDK and f2

 

[moond0g]

Surely that means Rohan is finishing up?
Can't see us going for Martin with basically 8 forwards already locked in.

Neale
Jezza
Stengle
Close
Miers
Dempsey
Mannagh
O Henry

Martin would be number 9.
Basically VFL bound unless we have injuries.

Unless we plan to play Dempsey wing full time?

I'd consider Martin, but would try to turn him into a wing/half back. Perhaps that's what the club is thinking. Agree there's probably no need for him as a forward though.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Ratugolea had no significant value. SDK has a lot of value.

It completely depends on what we think are the chances that he stays and reaches his potential with us. If we're confident then he's untradeable at any value.

If we think he's a risk and a team is willing to put up enough that we effectively trade out SDK for Smith and a significant pick upgrade (eg SDK + 15 for Smith + 7) then we'd have to think about it.

Highly doubt we'd trade him, like Tim Kelly as well we'd try to back ourselves to get him to change his mind.

 

[Mattlock]

I'd consider Martin, but would try to turn him into a wing/half back. Perhaps that's what the club is thinking. Agree there's probably no need for him as a forward though.

If he stays fit, half back would be really interesting.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Highly doubt we'd trade him, like Tim Kelly as well we'd try to back ourselves to get him to change his mind.

Tim Kelly was playing like a superstar. SDK is coming off an ordinary season except for a brief stint in the ruck and wasn't picked for finals.

Kelly was always going to have significant value based on his first season.

An out of contract SDK next year could be worth anything from 2x first rounders if he dominates to a pick outside the top 20 if he struggles. If he indicates he wants out (which of course is a big if) it's not as obvious that forcing him to stay is the right move.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Pick 7 and a large sweetener. Even then we wouldnt do it. Realistically we would want 12 months to plan and trade in a quality kpd or ruck to replace him its too late in the piece to do it now. Revisit next year.

If SDK was showing signs that he might not be around after next year then 7 + a sweetener is probably the best we will get for him.

 

[No Quarter]

Surely if SDK wanted out he'd be making the biggest effort to get to Carlton

 

[Footy Smarts]

If SDK was showing signs that he might not be around after next year then 7 + a sweetener is probably the best we will get for him.

Don't know about that. If a team like the Saints or North are keen they might not care about draft picks much. And he's contracted so we can drag our feet.

If he asks to go to North or the Saints do they say no if we demand pick 2 or picks 7+8? If I'm them in probably doing that given how hard they've struggled to attract talent and how many early picks they've already had.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Surely if SDK wanted out he'd be making the biggest effort to get to Carlton

If I were him I'd look at North. Could get a massive front ended contract, become their number 1 key defender and that list is primed to surge up the ladder.

 

[D BRIDGE]

If he asks to go to North or the Saints do they say no if we demand pick 2 or picks 7+8? If I'm them in probably doing that given how hard they've struggled to attract talent and how many early picks they've already had.

Hey if North or the Saints wanna hand over pick 2 or 7 + 8 for a guy that wasn't even selected In our finals team and has gone backwards since 2022 then I'd be all for it.

I'd love to keep SDK.... But if offered 2 or 7 + 8... I'm booting him out the door asap.

 

[cats_09]

if he makes this move, could one suggest that Soldo may have a bit of the Preuss mentality about him - behind Nank at Richmond so moves to Port

Gets stuck behind Sweet at Port and looks to move again, but to a team with a clear #1 ruck in Marshall...

It's like Preuss moving from North to Melbourne when all knew he wouldn't be their #1 - unsure why Soldo would look at St Kilda

 

[Strange Cat]

If I were him I'd look at North. Could get a massive front ended contract, become their number 1 key defender and that list is primed to surge up the ladder.

Yeah but he will have to play under the angry hobbit Clarko

 

[strauchnyy]

SDK should be first picked next year as our no.1 key defender. Stints in the ruck sure, but 90% key defender.

 

[No Quarter]

There's gotta be an available ruckman that's looking at our team thinking "Shit I could get the #1 role there"

 

[cats_09]

The question around SDK and IF he is considering his future, is it because he's a little frustrated/disappointed at being left out of our finals team after his injury and wants to seek clarity from us on his future

Or has he decided his future isn't at Geelong, he wants out and holding him to his contract could have something of a negative effect - either in terms of diminishing his trade value or him potentially not being fully committed to the club next season?


If he's just wanting to test the waters but is otherwise committed to the club, then surely we work out things to extend beyond next season

But if he's pretty adamant he wants out & that's unlikely to change over the next 12 months - do we maximise trade value now if a suitable deal can be made?

 

[No Quarter]

Is this all just rumour though, or has the DK camp actually suggested as much?