Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

Cheers to Lore for their hard work in setting this up, and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft - and please practice patience grasshoppers if it's not updated in the immediate aftermath of completed trade





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates​

Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

 

[Turbocat]

Some pretty handy types being delisted … I thought that Carroll at the Blues was OK..

 

[Footy Smarts]

I would definitely be adding a ruck now whether it's a raw cat a rookie like pike or ajang or a more mature state league ruck backup. As with Stanley and Conway having issues we will need it.

Pike is the same age as Edwards so will be a long way off AFL ready.

Ajang is a talent and more physically ready but he's incredibly raw. I'd be stunned if he's ready next year.

These guys just aren't in any way a solution for next year. Happy to pick them if we rate them but it's for the long-term not short term.

I want to see what SDK can be with a preseason focusing on the ruck. His stint there was so impressive this year. He showed he could be an elite ruck and there's nobody else on our list who could be that next year.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Some pretty hand types being delisted … I thought that Carroll at the Blues was OK..

4th year on the list and not best 22 spells trouble if you're a small.

 

[year of the cat]

Some pretty hand types being delisted … I thought that Carroll at the Blues was OK..

Surprised me too.

 

[Turbocat]

Pike is the same age as Edwards so will be a long way off AFL ready.

Ajang is a talent and more physically ready but he's incredibly raw. I'd be stunned if he's ready next year.

These guys just aren't in any way a solution for next year. Happy to pick them if we rate them but it's for the long-term not short term.

I want to see what SDK can be with a preseason focusing on the ruck. His stint there was so impressive this year. He showed he could be an elite ruck and there's nobody else on our list who could be that next year.

We have had a good look at Pike and Ajang … so we either like them or we don’t. It seem likely we will have have spot at the mid year …so someone like Pike for example on our VFL would be almost having without being listed...

The issue with both is only the perception that neither look like they would do a good 2K time. WE seem to rate athletic ability highly.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We could’ve also promoted Mullin.

We could've although the salary cap issue may have affected that (although I'm sure we have cap room and mullin will probably be on the senior list in 12 months anyway).

 

[DanA]

Wasn’t there a Sudanese kid running around local footy in Geelong that looked a draftable ruckmen?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Surprised me too.

I would assume they are being nice and delisting him as he has a club lined up.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Wasn’t there a Sudanese kid running around local footy in Geelong that looked a draftable ruckmen?

That was ajang kuol. He was OK in a couple of games for our vfl team he's very very raw, needs to learn a lot about positioning etc-nowhere near afl ready but did a couple of things that made me think long term he could be a good player.

 

[Turbocat]

That was ajang kuol. He was OK in a couple of games for our vfl team he's very very raw, needs to learn a lot about positioning etc-nowhere near afl ready but did a couple of things that made me think long term he could be a good player.

He did one noce jump at the combine …but no word on how he went on running. He looked slow when he played at VFL..

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

You would have seen more of Blakiston than me but I would be surprised if he goes main draft I would have thought we could get him at one of our rookie picks. Judging by interest I would say bice and henderson (and maybe davidson) are more likely to go in the main draft but who knows.

Quite possible PO , might depend on how serious the Saints are.
Blakiston looks like a Wells type - tall , rangy and very athletic with good skills.

I think we will also train up SDK in the preseason as ruck , he showed decent ability around the ground as a ruck and got around 20 touches each game. Train him up on ruck craft and he could be anything to be honest.
Hopefully COS can bulk up a bit and play a few games as a key back , allows SDK to play ruck.

Blakiston could be good insurance , played some very good games once Teakle left.

 

[MacStradbroke]

He did one noce jump at the combine …but no word on how he went on running. He looked slow when he played at VFL..

I think I read he hurt himself on that first jump at the combine.

 

[michelzing]

Cat B Rookie V CAT A Rookie? - Is a Cat B somebody who has essentially come from a different sport (eg Blitz, O'Conner, Mullin etc) while a Cat A is like your Brad Close, Zuthrie, Atkins (basically half our 2022 Premiership side)

 

[CatRiot]

are we looking at any irish dudes?

 

[bulletproof]

Geez they have got a lot sharper on these list decisions over last couple of years.

Straight out the door if you don’t measure.

Feel for the guy but this is without doubt the right approach.

 

[stac]

So if we have 4 list spots open you would assume we will use three of our existing picks 45, 57 and 75 and have a spot open if we want and can trade a future pick into this draft

 

[iameviljez]

Geez they have got a lot sharper on these list decisions over last couple of years.

Straight out the door if you don’t measure.

Feel for the guy but this is without doubt the right approach.

IMO it's not a coincidence that Port and Carlton have really surprised with their decisions; any club that has been contending, but is in a bit of a point of stasis, is going to go hard at the edge of the squad.

 

[Strange Cat]

Some pretty handy types being delisted … I thought that Carroll at the Blues was OK..

It’s been said before but geez it’s a tough industry to break into …even Hawkins and his wife have spoken about never feeling 100% secured for years and he was a elite player with a lot of credit in his favour

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Some pretty handy types being delisted … I thought that Carroll at the Blues was OK..

The list managers clearly like this draft

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Cat B Rookie V CAT A Rookie? - Is a Cat B somebody who has essentially come from a different sport (eg Blitz, O'Conner, Mullin etc) while a Cat A is like your Brad Close, Zuthrie, Atkins (basically half our 2022 Premiership side)

Cat B can be players who haven't played footy at any level for I think 3 years. Academy players that make it through the national draft undrafted can be added as Cat B rookies also, we did this with Ted Clohesy recently.

Cat A rookies are drafted in the rookie draft.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Pike is the same age as Edwards so will be a long way off AFL ready.

Ajang is a talent and more physically ready but he's incredibly raw. I'd be stunned if he's ready next year.

These guys just aren't in any way a solution for next year. Happy to pick them if we rate them but it's for the long-term not short term.

I want to see what SDK can be with a preseason focusing on the ruck. His stint there was so impressive this year. He showed he could be an elite ruck and there's nobody else on our list who could be that next year.

Look I agree 100 % I like pike and ajang and I think both could work long term but neither will play afl next year.

My point was with Furphy gone we have room to add another ruck (when you factor in the vfl side won't really have any tall fwd either) and given forward planning for no Stanley and blitz in 2026 we should.

The question is whether we are better off with the best raw long term kid (such as pike etc) or if we go and rookie the beat state league we can as afl cover in case we either want to move sdk back or he gets injured.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He did one noce jump at the combine …but no word on how he went on running. He looked slow when he played at VFL..

Yeah his vertical at the combine was good. I liked his leap and skills at vfl my impression was he lacks craft and has no idea how to position himself in ruck (a good ruck coach can fix that) and he needs to build a better endurance base.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Quite possible PO , might depend on how serious the Saints are.
Blakiston looks like a Wells type - tall , rangy and very athletic with good skills.

I think we will also train up SDK in the preseason as ruck , he showed decent ability around the ground as a ruck and got around 20 touches each game. Train him up on ruck craft and he could be anything to be honest.
Hopefully COS can bulk up a bit and play a few games as a key back , allows SDK to play ruck.

Blakiston could be good insurance , played some very good games once Teakle left.

I haven't seen enough of Blakiston to comment but do you think he's athletic enough?. He would want to be better than teakle (who I think is poor) to draft him. As far as I know he's not a dfa so has to go through the draft either late in the ND or as a rookie.

 

[My Tilly]

That was ajang kuol. He was OK in a couple of games for our vfl team he's very very raw, needs to learn a lot about positioning etc-nowhere near afl ready but did a couple of things that made me think long term he could be a good player.

Do you think the coaches may have liked what they saw from De Koning during the brief time he played in the ruck?
If so, they may have plans to make the transition to that part of the ground.

With Edwards and Conway in the wings, Stanley as ample backup, do we really need another ruckman?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

are we looking at any irish dudes?

Yes cillian burke