Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

Cheers to Lore for their hard work in setting this up, and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft - and please practice patience grasshoppers if it's not updated in the immediate aftermath of completed trade





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates​

Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I’d say with us looking at filling 4 list spots via the ND that we will be trading either our FF or F2 back in.

FF will probably get us Clarke or confirms Gerreyn or Sims - F2 allows us to perhaps get in front of a club if there’s someone we like and sense might be taken a touch earlier. Maybe Boxshall?

There’s such an even spread of talent that to try and predict how the draft will take shape is impossible.

Not necessarily our picks 57 75 and onwards will come in so we might just take 45 plus 3 in the 60s (similar to what we did last year). I'm not sure we trade back in unless the value us good.

 

[PeasFC]

Hard to know really in the back end. Imagine landing both.

Would certainly be nice.
Conway, Sdk, Cos, Neale, Edwards, sims, Gerryn.

 

[PeasFC]

I wonder whether Harrison Oliver suits our needs and could be available in a potential F2 trade in zone.

Feels crazy that we have almost no left footers and with Duncan and touhy largely done. Feels like we could use some excellent distributors.

Xavier Lindsay would be nice but will go too early for us.

 

[year of the cat]

Not necessarily our picks 57 75 and onwards will come in so we might just take 45 plus 3 in the 60s (similar to what we did last year). I'm not sure we trade back in unless the value us good.

I know we don’t have to. But I’d be surprised if we don’t try.

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah it feels like what they've predicted is a long way off.

If it did eventuate that way, I'd honestly consider trading back in to pick up two of Gerryn/Stumpf/Sims...but I can't see all 3 being available for us at our first, let alone after our pick.

Key forwards to me are a little like QBs in the NFL. If you're relatively settled on a needs basis across your list, you just take one or two late in most drafts, providing they've got a semblance of talent, and it looks like their skills transfer.

If they're good enough to make it, you've plucked the most prized position in football cheaply, and can either lock in that magnet on the whiteboard for 15 years, or trade them out for a small fortune.

If they don't, you just churn the list and keep on looking. It's not like those later picks are highly valued or likely to make it anyway.

I doubt clubs expected Lewis, Larkey, Treacy, Walker, heck even Neale to become what they did when they plucked them from relative obscurity, but sometimes you just strike gold.

Sounds an insightful analogy ..not that I could judge drafting in the NFL. Neale had the athletic profile that seems a good foundation … it would seem like a adding a Stumpf type might appeal to a club look for a cheap QB. Neale went at P33 it was a reasonable draft pick …Larkey was a very good find

 

[Turbocat]

I know we don’t have to. But I’d be surprised if we don’t try.

To me they will not be fussed on exact value etc…if they really like a specific player and he is there ..and they can trade in to get him .. then maybe they dont risk him being available in 10 or 20 picks time. Id imagine several would be happy if we did a deal for our Fr2 and it got us Gerryn.. I dont know who the player would be but if they rate him enough to trade in for him then id back the club.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Sounds an insightful analogy ..not that I could judge drafting in the NFL. Neale had the athletic profile that seems a good foundation … it would seem like a adding a Stumpf type might appeal to a club look for a cheap QB. Neale went at P33 it was a reasonable draft pick …Larkey was a very good find

On paper sure but I'm not sure I remember that draft specifically in that way. With the covid impacts to the 2s i remember picks past about 25 being completely unpredictable.

Looking at the non-academy or father sons picks it's Neale and Beau McReary really.

 

[Turbocat]

On paper sure but I'm not sure I remember that draft specifically in that way. With the covid impacts to the 2s i remember picks past about 25 being completely unpredictable.

Looking at the non-academy or father sons picks it's Neale and Beau McReary really.

No doubt that period dried the draft talent … but as in your previous post Treacy was a rookie that year… so there were players to be found..

 

[Phipppppa]

Cooper stephens I’ve just spotted down at the club talking with what looks to be an official…

Heard the words “next year” murmured when walking past

Back on the list as a rookie maybe?

 

[D BRIDGE]

Cooper stephens I’ve just spotted down at the club talking with what looks to be an official…

Heard the words “next year” murmured when walking past

Back on the list as a rookie maybe?

Geezz you'd hope not.

Maybe he is gonna run water.

The guy should be doing his thing in the GFL.

 

[Phipppppa]

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and Nigel lappin walked in and straight to the table. Cooper could be a cat again

 

[ShadowCat]

Andrew Mackie and Nigel lappin walked in and straight to the table. Cooper could be a cat again

Cooper Stephens joins the Royals!

The East Perth football Club is delighted to announce the signing of AFL player Cooper Stephens! Hailing from the Geelong Falcons in the NAB League, Stephens joined AFL side Geelong with pick #16 in the 2019 National Draft. He made his debut against GWS in Round 8, 2022, amassing 19 diposals in...

eastperthfc.com.au

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I know we don’t have to. But I’d be surprised if we don’t try.

What pick would you be prepared to trade from our future stock and for what pick range on the night?? I can’t imagine our FF1st for 28

 

[cats_09]

Cooper stephens I’ve just spotted down at the club talking with what looks to be an official…

Heard the words “next year” murmured when walking past

Back on the list as a rookie maybe?

VFL maybe

 

[moond0g]

Cooper Stephens joins the Royals!

The East Perth football Club is delighted to announce the signing of AFL player Cooper Stephens! Hailing from the Geelong Falcons in the NAB League, Stephens joined AFL side Geelong with pick #16 in the 2019 National Draft. He made his debut against GWS in Round 8, 2022, amassing 19 diposals in...

eastperthfc.com.au

Big move to play WAFL

 

[Schmuck]

Have the Cats made any assistant coaching changes this off season?

 

[D BRIDGE]

What pick would you be prepared to trade from our future stock and for what pick range on the night?? I can’t imagine our FF1st for 28

If we give up our FF for #28 I'll spew up Terry Wallace style.

Pretty much everyone in here preferred trading #17 for Smith before our FF.

That #17 will push out a few spots after bids but will still be way earlier than #28.

So I can imagine that "if" we didn't want to trade our FF for Smith (totally guessing here) we wouldn't trade our FF for a pick before that Doggies selection we traded for Smith.

But... In the end it all depends on what player is available at the time and if we deem him worthy of trading our FF to snag.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No doubt that period dried the draft talent … but as in your previous post Treacy was a rookie that year… so there were players to be found..

Yeah but were talking diamonds in the rough starting in the late 20s

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah but were talking diamonds in the rough starting in the late 20s

Not disagreeing. Id say when all is said and done …the amount of games produced from 2020/2021 will be below average..

 

[Phipppppa]

Cooper Stephens joins the Royals!

The East Perth football Club is delighted to announce the signing of AFL player Cooper Stephens! Hailing from the Geelong Falcons in the NAB League, Stephens joined AFL side Geelong with pick #16 in the 2019 National Draft. He made his debut against GWS in Round 8, 2022, amassing 19 diposals in...

eastperthfc.com.au

Still doesn’t answer what I saw today

 

[Gunf]

Hmm i would prefer we trade our future second over a future first for a few reasons

1 We don't know how good of a pick the future first will be could be anything including a top 10
2 what we realistically can trade each for won't be that much different as i think at best we get around a pick around 25-30 for a future first but we could possibly get a pick not much worse for our future second.

 

[Gunf]

Still doesn’t answer what I saw today

Maybe Mackie was helping facilitate the move due to connections

 

[year of the cat]

What pick would you be prepared to trade from our future stock and for what pick range on the night?? I can’t imagine our FF1st for 28

If we give up our FF for #28 I'll spew up Terry Wallace style.

Pretty much everyone in here preferred trading #17 for Smith before our FF.

That #17 will push out a few spots after bids but will still be way earlier than #28.

So I can imagine that "if" we didn't want to trade our FF for Smith (totally guessing here) we wouldn't trade our FF for a pick before that Doggies selection we traded for Smith.

But... In the end it all depends on what player is available at the time and if we deem him worthy of trading our FF to snag.

For me it’s not so much about what pick I’d be prepared to trade our FF for rather than what player.

No shock that we are thin on tall forwards. I’d be prepared to pay a premium for Gerreyn or Sims even if that means that it’s pick 28 (after FS, academy picks) that is the pick we trade for.

Even could make a case for trading our FF for Clarke. But I’d probably rather use our pick 45 for Jaques who is a similar type.

I just want us to walk away with a couple of guys I have confidence in.

 

[ShadowCat]

Still doesn’t answer what I saw today

If what you say is true, then I imagine it would be a 'ply your trade in the WAFL and show us it's worth picking you back up/over your injury run, and then we'll talk next year' situation.

No chance he signs with a WAFL club and then we pick him up a mere month later.

 

[Footy Smarts]

For me it’s not so much about what pick I’d be prepared to trade our FF for rather than what player.

No shock that we are thin on tall forwards. I’d be prepared to pay a premium for Gerreyn or Sims even if that means that it’s pick 28 (after FS, academy picks) that is the pick we trade for.

Even could make a case for trading our FF for Clarke. But I’d probably rather use our pick 45 for Jaques who is a similar type.

I just want us to walk away with a couple of guys I have confidence in.

We're thin on tall forwards but I also don't think paying up to get a kid in makes much sense.

The history of tall forwards taken outside the top 20 is basically horrible. It feels like a massive risk to give up a future first for a tall forward like Gerreyn who has had exposure but not impressed enough to go in the top 25.

I'd prefer to save our future first and go big at a Cadman, JUH, etc type who look ready to become a long-term quality player than play overs for a very speculative draftee.