Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[iameviljez]

but I doubt he leaves gc when they are finally on the up so I reckon this will be like the boak thing

Making Prelims and Grand Finals from 2016 to 2019 didn't stop GWS players from leaving.

 

[Turbocat]

Making Prelims and Grand Finals from 2016 to 2019 didn't stop GWS players from leaving.

Fair point. Winning is just one part of the AFL lifestyle dream. Some clubs have an advantage that is hard to match like playing regularly at the G or being in a football environment if thats what you desire. I feel teams like GWS and GC should almost be ideal for players who have been in the system , ticked the boxes and now want to escape the hothouse. Has worked for Sydney for years. Be interesting to see how Stringer and Riolli go.

 

[cats_09]

Imagine the melts

 

[ShadowCat]

Gold Coast fan base more worried about the Rowell meeting that I expected. Said 'he never full settled down' and has 'likely met with other clubs.' Probably a 5% chance it happens, but the pitch of 'come be the next Selwood to complement Holmes and Smith', is pretty fantastic.

What I find most interesting though, is that this is the one that leaked. Obviously his manager, but reckon it could be along the lines of 'you pay my client this, and you show improvement, or my client will take the offer from Geelong.'

I just love that we never go for the small fish. All these other clubs with their little moves, and we're like 'nah'...Boak, Danger, Jez, Bailey, Curnow, Oliver, Butters, Rowell, that's the big fish we want. We don't always get who we want, but we always try - and we always put the fear of god into the sides that we try and take these players from.

Just a delight supporting a club that always wants to contend.

 

[iameviljez]

I just love that we never go for the small fish

I mean, to be fair, we do that too. Bowes, Martin et al

Probably a 5% chance it happens

Next 24 hours will be interesting. If Rowell doesn't come out and immediately rule it out, then it's much much more likely to be "on".

 

[Footy Smarts]

I'd be nervous about Rowell and wouldn't overpay. He's a gun clearance player but he's average to poor outside of that.

Lots of teams have got themselves in trouble going overboard on inside mids with no versatility. I'd be disappointed if Bruhn doesn't become close to the player Rowell is now and I'm not sure they'd combine together particularly well.

 

[you pick one]

I mean, to be fair, we do that too. Bowes, Martin et al


Next 24 hours will be interesting. If Rowell doesn't come out and immediately rule it out, then it's much much more likely to be "on".

All over the news services in SEQ today Rowell out Cats favorite nothing as yet from the man himself but.

 

[ShadowCat]

I mean, to be fair, we do that too. Bowes, Martin et al


Next 24 hours will be interesting. If Rowell doesn't come out and immediately rule it out, then it's much much more likely to be "on".

Martin didn't cost us a thing, and we got Bowes for the cost of...them giving us Jhye Clark, lol. Rohan cost us Pick 63...Scott Selwood and Zac Smith cost us nothing. Zach Tuohy cost us next to nothing. Ablett returning cost us next to nothing. Dahlhaus cost us nothing. Higgins cost us Fogarty, but meh.

I get what you're saying, but, essentially my point was that we only ever go after the big fish, when we have cap and draft capital to spend. We never give up a lot, unless it's for a player that truly makes it worth it. Even Bailey Smith came to us for the equivalent of Pick 20ish.

If we're going to spend multiple firsts and 800K+, then it's going to be for the equivalent of a Danger or Cameron - and I just love that we keep making these big moves rather than bottoming out and being resigned to mediocrity for the next decade like the majority of the rest of the league.

 

[iameviljez]

essentially my point was that we only ever go after the big fish, when we have cap and draft capital to spend.

Henry, Bruhn, Ceglar, Steven, Jenkins, old Ablett, Higgins, Tuohy...

Plenty of room at Geelong for the ok-to-good as well.

 

[ShadowCat]

Henry, Bruhn, Ceglar, Steven, Jenkins, old Ablett, Higgins, Tuohy...

Plenty of room at Geelong for the ok-to-good as well.

I don't think you're understanding my point, lol. Is Bruhn being paid 800K, did we give up a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 12 a mere 2 years before? Did we give up much for Henry or a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 17 a mere two years before? Even Bailey Smith, reportedly have paid him 700K and gave up Pick 17.

We don't give up a lot, unless we're going after a really big fish. And we always go after the big fish, when we want to give up a lot. Other clubs give up a heap for over the hill players/borderline stars. We don't overpay on salary or picks, unless they're an absolute star of the comp - and we always chase these stars, is my point.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I don't think you're understanding my point, lol. Is Bruhn being paid 800K, did we give up a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 12 a mere 2 years before? Did we give up much for Henry or a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 17 a mere two years before? Even Bailey Smith, reportedly have paid him 700K and gave up Pick 17.

We don't give up a lot, unless we're going after a really big fish. And we always go after the big fish, when we want to give up a lot. Other clubs give up a heap for over the hill players/borderline stars. We don't overpay on salary or picks, unless they're an absolute star of the comp - and we always chase these stars, is my point.

I'd say every club goes after the big fish and most likely talk to all the decent players who are OOC or looking to move clubs.

The only real difference is that we are a destination club that has landed more than most clubs.

When we are linked to good players like Rowell etc... it gets taken seriously.

When the Saints or North talk to these types... it gets looked upon as a publicity stunt to bump up the player's price.

I'm happy we are a great club that players consider jumping ship for.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

I keep going back to what Isaac Smith said about Geelong and how he knows for a fact that there's lots of players who ask their managers about getting to the Cats.

 

[iameviljez]

I don't think you're understanding my point, lol. Is Bruhn being paid 800K, did we give up a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 12 a mere 2 years before? Did we give up much for Henry or a Top 15 pick for him even though he was Pick 17 a mere two years before? Even Bailey Smith, reportedly have paid him 700K and gave up Pick 17.

We don't give up a lot, unless we're going after a really big fish. And we always go after the big fish, when we want to give up a lot. Other clubs give up a heap for over the hill players/borderline stars. We don't overpay on salary or picks, unless they're an absolute star of the comp - and we always chase these stars, is my point.

Yeah, ok, I get what you're saying as such - i.e. that we don't give out deals like Carlton did with Mitch McGovern.

 

[Turbocat]

LOL…They love a ranga ...

 

[Turbocat]

Gold Coast fan base more worried about the Rowell meeting that I expected. Said 'he never full settled down' and has 'likely met with other clubs.' Probably a 5% chance it happens, but the pitch of 'come be the next Selwood to complement Holmes and Smith', is pretty fantastic.

What I find most interesting though, is that this is the one that leaked. Obviously his manager, but reckon it could be along the lines of 'you pay my client this, and you show improvement, or my client will take the offer from Geelong.'

I just love that we never go for the small fish. All these other clubs with their little moves, and we're like 'nah'...Boak, Danger, Jez, Bailey, Curnow, Oliver, Butters, Rowell, that's the big fish we want. We don't always get who we want, but we always try - and we always put the fear of god into the sides that we try and take these players from.

Just a delight supporting a club that always wants to contend.

It sets up an intriguing paradigm …of going after players to make us competitive then makes us a more serious destination for other players. The players in club like the idea of being competitive and always being a chance although I dare say a few mids might feel a little mixed in emotion … and now that we are targeting younger players we seem less ripe and a more rounded age profile.

 

[noosaboy]

It sets up an intriguing paradigm …of going after players to make us competitive then makes us a more serious destination for other players. The players in club like the idea of being competitive and always being a chance although I dare say a few mids might feel a little mixed in emotion … and now that we are targeting younger players we seem less ripe and a more rounded age profile.

Is Jye Clark not coming on like was once thought? He was certainly touted as the next Selwood like mid!

 

[FootyLad0]

Is Jye Clark not coming on like was once thought? He was certainly touted as the next Selwood like mid!

Jhye needs a big year or the prospect of packing his bags might be inevitable. Not only on his end but maybe also ours. I'm sure Scotty will still believe in him but how much is Jhye willing to be pushed back or left out if he can't put it together.

Don't want to see him go but if he can't crack a squad that still features old ass Duncan and broken down Cam Guthrie (who both should be easily replaced in best 23 for 2025 season) then that's a Clarky problem and not a Geelong one.

He's now competing with about 7/8 guys for midfield spots. And he's not as versatile as others like Smith or Holmes who can go play on a flank or rotate onto the wing. Bowes and Atkins already cover the tagger/defensive mid role. Blics is a unicorn who you can't really replicate. It would be rare if anybody could find a Dangerfield replacement in the entire League let alone Geelong...I haven't even mentioned players who can roll through as part time mids like Dempsey, Mannagh, Mullin, Stewart. Knevitt if he comes on as well will be pushing for a spot.

And that's with Mitch Duncan who should basically be relegated to a sub role or depth and Cuthrie who still needs to get back to his fitness and form of yesteryear.

He's got a lot of work to do.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Is Jye Clark not coming on like was once thought? He was certainly touted as the next Selwood like mid!

He got a good amount of time in the guts early last year and was then removed to play an outside role.

Then he was playing on the outside late last year in the VFL.

Now he was apparently playing half back in yesterday match sim.

I think that’s a sign that we have conceded he isn’t ready to be a solid midfielder or MC misjudged the level he was at.

They put him in there last year… Scott even said what Clark does he does better than anyone else in the side in that role, then pulled him out of that role and plonked him on the outside (where he isn’t great imo).

The kid needs time but he isn’t as much of a sure thing as most thought imo.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

They put him in there last year… Scott even said what Clark does he does better than anyone else in the side in that role, then pulled him out of that role and plonked him on the outside (where he isn’t great imo).

I stopped reading into that stuff from him a long time ago tbh.

Remember vividly in 2019 where he said "We're really confident we've got two long term players there" in relation to Lachie Fogarty & Charlie Constable - both were gone 12 and 24 months later respectively.

Probably doesn't bode well for Conway either, if what has been said in here recently is to be believed, even if Scotty appears to be a big fan when he speaks publicly about him.

The rest is likely true though. They believe Clark is not ready, and/or not good enough for the midfield, and they're trying to find him a place to ply his craft in the meantime.

 

[stac]

Most young players need time to develop before being thrown into the AFL, the problem for alot of players is they get drafted to a club that can’t afford to let them develop in the twos

Geelong does it well, so do some other clubs.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Rowell had his own significant injury concerns, lest we not forget, KNEE and SHOULDER.
His last 3 seasons have been great.

He has but his best is very good and ideal for us. He would cost 2 r1s and be worth it (ideally we make finals both years and they are later picks).

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Making Prelims and Grand Finals from 2016 to 2019 didn't stop GWS players from leaving.

Gws players mainly left because of cap pressure though not success. With lukos 1mil and other bad contracts like Bowes gone gc should have the cap room to offer what he wants. And if they do it would be unusual for him to leave when they are likely to start playing finals.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'd be nervous about Rowell and wouldn't overpay. He's a gun clearance player but he's average to poor outside of that.

Lots of teams have got themselves in trouble going overboard on inside mids with no versatility. I'd be disappointed if Bruhn doesn't become close to the player Rowell is now and I'm not sure they'd combine together particularly well.

The counter argument to that is we are the perfect side to balance out his weaknesses though as we have holmes/Dempsey and Smith on the wings and a fleet of A grade quick small forwards. We lack a first possession clearance animal to replace dangerfield so he would be a good fit for us. If you have Rowell and bruhn as your key clearance guys surrounded by the outside types it's a good mix.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I mean, to be fair, we do that too. Bowes, Martin et al


Next 24 hours will be interesting. If Rowell doesn't come out and immediately rule it out, then it's much much more likely to be "on".

He won't decide until mid year because if it looks like they will play finals he probably stays and if they tank downward then he might go. We won't know for ages either way.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He got a good amount of time in the guts early last year and was then removed to play an outside role.

Then he was playing on the outside late last year in the VFL.

Now he was apparently playing half back in yesterday match sim.

I think that’s a sign that we have conceded he isn’t ready to be a solid midfielder or MC misjudged the level he was at.

They put him in there last year… Scott even said what Clark does he does better than anyone else in the side in that role, then pulled him out of that role and plonked him on the outside (where he isn’t great imo).

The kid needs time but he isn’t as much of a sure thing as most thought imo.

It's a sign that he has neither the body strength or the endurance to play his primary clearance role yet so they are trying to find another role where they can still get some afl games into him while he builds his tank. Wouldn't read much more into it than that (unless you think he will be constable and never build the tank but his fitness work this off season looks promising).