Greatest ever Hawthorn mature-age recruit from another club?

[Jables]

Burgoyne had "that moment" in 2013 and is a truly remarkable player, but I actually think Gibson ties it.

 

[crazywildhorse]

Joel Smith was not the best, but I think he deserves more mentions than he's been given.

 

[Hawthorn United]

B: Austin McCrabb Todd Ridley Matthew Dent
HB: Darren Baxter Nathan Chapman Barry Young
C: Andrew Demetriou Ben Ross Simon Cox
HF: Bo Nixon Kingsley Hunter Leon Higgins
F: Simon Minton-Connell Brett O'Farrell Shayne Stevenson
R: Randall Bone Mark Bunn Jon Hassall
Inter: Tom Allen Nick Stone Ricky Nixon Broc McCauley
Coach: Cameron Bruce

Bit top heavy on the bench!

Justin Crawford?

I remember him for public urination more than anything he did onfield.

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[shotgun_blues]

My Top 40 mature age recruits over the last 40 years since 1975> Have factor evenly, a) Overall Hawthorn career output vs, b) Finals performances of note, vs c) Premierships & individual awards collected, vs d) Relative strength of team at the time. Hard exercise.

1. John Platten (SA)
2. Josh Gibson (Nth Melb)
3. Paul Salmon (Essendon)
4. Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide)
5. Russell Greene (St Kilda)
6. Gary Buckenara (WA)
7. Darren Jarman (SA)
8. Brian Lake (Western Bulldogs)
9. Jack Gunston (Adelaide)
10. Joel Smith (St Kilda)
11. Tony Hall (SA)
12. Trent Croad (Fremantle)
13. Ben Allan (WA)
14. Isaac Smith (VIC)
15. David Hale (North Melb)
16. Stuart Dew (Port Adelaide)
17. Barry Rowlings (VIC)
18. Brent Guerra (Port Adelaide)
19. Colin Robertson (TAS)
20. Peter Everitt (St Kilda)
21. Norm Goss Jnr (South Melb)
22. Paul Puopolo (SA)
23. James Frawley (Melbourne)
24. Ken Judge (WA)
25. John Barker (Brisbane Lions)
26. Tony Woods (Collingwood)
27. Ben McEvoy (St Kilda)
28. Rod Lester-Smith (WA)
29. Michael Byrne (Melbourne)
30. Stephen Gilham (Port Adelaide)
31. Simon Cox (Western Bulldogs)
32. Jonathan Robran (SA)
33. Jason Taylor (Fitzroy)
34. Craig Treleven (WA)
35. Aaron Lord (Geelong)
36. Kris Barlow (VIC)
37. Anthony Rock (North Melb)
38. Darren Kappler (Sydney)
39. Shaun Rehn (Adelaide)
40. Matt Spangher (Sydney)

 

[Bedi]

My Top 40 mature age recruits over the last 40 years since 1975> Have factor evenly, a) Overall Hawthorn career output vs, b) Finals performances of note, vs c) Premierships & individual awards collected, vs d) Relative strength of team at the time. Hard exercise.

1. John Platten (SA)
2. Josh Gibson (Nth Melb)
3. Paul Salmon (Essendon)
4. Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide)
5. Russell Greene (St Kilda)
6. Gary Buckenara (WA)
7. Darren Jarman (SA)
8. Brian Lake (Western Bulldogs)
9. Jack Gunston (Adelaide)
10. Joel Smith (St Kilda)
11. Tony Hall (SA)
12. Trent Croad (Fremantle)
13. Ben Allan (WA)
14. Isaac Smith (VIC)
15. David Hale (North Melb)
16. Stuart Dew (Port Adelaide)
17. Barry Rowlings (VIC)
18. Brent Guerra (Port Adelaide)
19. Colin Robertson (TAS)
20. Peter Everitt (St Kilda)
21. Norm Goss Jnr (South Melb)
22. Paul Puopolo (SA)
23. James Frawley (Melbourne)
24. Ken Judge (WA)
25. John Barker (Brisbane Lions)
26. Tony Woods (Collingwood)
27. Ben McEvoy (St Kilda)
28. Rod Lester-Smith (WA)
29. Michael Byrne (Melbourne)
30. Stephen Gilham (Port Adelaide)
31. Simon Cox (Western Bulldogs)
32. Jonathan Robran (SA)
33. Jason Taylor (Fitzroy)
34. Craig Treleven (WA)
35. Aaron Lord (Geelong)
36. Kris Barlow (VIC)
37. Anthony Rock (North Melb)
38. Darren Kappler (Sydney)
39. Shaun Rehn (Adelaide)
40. Matt Spangher (Sydney)

Not a bad list. Not sure if Jonatahan Robran deserves to be there, though. He really wasn't great. Simon Minton-Connell could possibly be squeezed in at #40; he was serviceable for the one or two seasons he played. At very least I remember he kicked 8 goals one game.

 

[The BIG X]

You have done your homework - sg blues

 

[Brant]

My Top 40 mature age recruits over the last 40 years since 1975> Have factor evenly, a) Overall Hawthorn career output vs, b) Finals performances of note, vs c) Premierships & individual awards collected, vs d) Relative strength of team at the time. Hard exercise.

1. John Platten (SA)
2. Josh Gibson (Nth Melb)
3. Paul Salmon (Essendon)
4. Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide)
5. Russell Greene (St Kilda)
6. Gary Buckenara (WA)
7. Darren Jarman (SA)
8. Brian Lake (Western Bulldogs)
9. Jack Gunston (Adelaide)
10. Joel Smith (St Kilda)
11. Tony Hall (SA)
12. Trent Croad (Fremantle)
13. Ben Allan (WA)
14. Isaac Smith (VIC)
15. David Hale (North Melb)
16. Stuart Dew (Port Adelaide)
17. Barry Rowlings (VIC)
18. Brent Guerra (Port Adelaide)
19. Colin Robertson (TAS)
20. Peter Everitt (St Kilda)
21. Norm Goss Jnr (South Melb)
22. Paul Puopolo (SA)
23. James Frawley (Melbourne)
24. Ken Judge (WA)
25. John Barker (Brisbane Lions)
26. Tony Woods (Collingwood)
27. Ben McEvoy (St Kilda)
28. Rod Lester-Smith (WA)
29. Michael Byrne (Melbourne)
30. Stephen Gilham (Port Adelaide)
31. Simon Cox (Western Bulldogs)
32. Jonathan Robran (SA)
33. Jason Taylor (Fitzroy)
34. Craig Treleven (WA)
35. Aaron Lord (Geelong)
36. Kris Barlow (VIC)
37. Anthony Rock (North Melb)
38. Darren Kappler (Sydney)
39. Shaun Rehn (Adelaide)
40. Matt Spangher (Sydney)

Danny Jacobs or Simon Beaumont get a look-in? (They both played for us, right??)

 

[Teamwork Talks]

Winning the B&F in a premiership year is the mark of a truely great player.
Gibbo did it twice!!

Gibbo is the best mature age recruit. NO CONTEST
To those who say we wouldn't have won the premiership with out Lake or Burgers I say we wouldn't have won without Gibbo.

 

[MistyAvalon]

A lot on here wouldn't have seen Russell play. He was a favourite of mine, and a great Hawk, since he just lobbed, unexpected, on our doorstep. Would be right up there with the best.

that's the point exactly. we can only comment on who we saw or what we know. I wish I knew a lot of the older greats

 

[Thaihawk]

Ian Bremner from Collingwood...played 71 and 76 grand finals ...sure he could have played centre.

Actually, Brem would fit easily into today's game. He kicked the ball backwards, about 30 metres, in a game. He was "setting up" long before his time, or maybe it was a brain fade.

that's the point exactly. we can only comment on who we saw or what we know. I wish I knew a lot of the older greats

Problem with that Misty, is that us oldies won't see as many of the future greats, so you have more to look forward to than I do.

 

[Samthegun]

It's such a tough question...Burgoyne, Gibson, Lake.

- Without Burgoyne we wouldn't have kicked the curse. This was the turning point in our fortunes.
- Without Lake we probably wouldn't have gone B2B2B. That big-bodied solid-mitts dude will be missed.
- Without Gibbo, I don't think Lake would have been as good. Gibbo is a real general down back.

Conclusion...all three.

 

[Bedi]

Winning the B&F in a premiership year is the mark of a truely great player.
Gibbo did it twice!!

Gibbo is the best mature age recruit. NO CONTEST
To those who say we wouldn't have won the premiership with out Lake or Burgers I say we wouldn't have won without Gibbo.

hands down the most consistent too.

 

[tommyk72]

If we win again this year without Lake does that change the discussion?

 

[TAITA]

Winning the B&F in a premiership year is the mark of a truely great player.
Gibbo did it twice!!

Gibbo is the best mature age recruit. NO CONTEST
To those who say we wouldn't have won the premiership with out Lake or Burgers I say we wouldn't have won without Gibbo.

Wonderful achievement in any context.

It's a bit like asking who is your favorite child but I do think this post has much clarity and perspective.

 

[Thaihawk]

Does Gunston count or was he too young when we got him? He will be up there by end of his career

I am surprised that you are only the second person, I think, who has mentioned Jack Gunston. He is 24, has plaed 100+ games, kicked 220 goals, and has 3 premiership medallions, and is line to add to that. He could easily become our best ever mature age recruits. I bet he's feeling good that he didn't go to the jabbers.

 

[shotgun_blues]

Danny Jacobs or Simon Beaumont get a look-in? (They both played for us, right??)

Danny Jacobs - Just misses out due to the sole fact that when he kicked his first goal for us and all the players got around him I still can't get his arrogant smirk out of my head as if to say 'wtf am I doing here at this shit club!?" An arrogant smirk George Bailey would have been proud of.

Simon Beaumont - A fly could have chinned Justin Murphy harder than he did during the line in the sand game. Drops a few spots on that 'effort' alone.

 

[DannyJ]

Thats why I said "Burgoyne is a freak and a legend but i reckon we still would have snagged a couple of flags without him" (i.e 2014 and 2015). Bear in mind also that Lake was Norm Smith medallist in the 2013 grand final. Do we win the 2013 grand final without him? I have my doubts. Lake for me by some margin.

I think the 2013 prelim was the biggest game we've won. Had we lost that I don't know if we would have won a flag at all to be honest. Would have been 2012 and 2013 heartbreak and the coaching staff may have made changes then.

Burgoyne is thus the best. IMO.

Lake, Gunston, and Gibson all superb. We have had an amazing time recruiting from other clubs.

 

[Samthegun]

I am surprised that you are only the second person, I think, who has mentioned Jack Gunston. He is 24, has plaed 100+ games, kicked 220 goals, and has 3 premiership medallions, and is line to add to that. He could easily become our best ever mature age recruits. I bet he's feeling good that he didn't go to the jabbers.

I guess the question is whether or not Gunston was mature-aged...

 

[Gralin]

Drafted 2 years before we got him, its borderline based on his age but he'd played senior footy so I would class him as a mature aged recruit

I guess the question is whether or not Gunston was mature-aged...

 

[Samthegun]

Drafted 2 years before we got him, its borderline based on his age but he'd played senior footy so I would class him as a mature aged recruit

Probably right...but it's easy to see why he was overlooked.

 

[aussie80s]

B: Austin McCrabb Todd Ridley Matthew Dent
HB: Darren Baxter Nathan Chapman Barry Young
C: Andrew Demetriou Ben Ross Simon Cox
HF: Bo Nixon Kingsley Hunter Leon Higgins
F: Simon Minton-Connell Brett O'Farrell Shayne Stevenson
R: Randall Bone Mark Bunn Jon Hassall
Inter: Tom Allen Nick Stone Ricky Nixon Broc McCauley
Coach: Cameron Bruce

Bit top heavy on the bench!

Gordon Fode (St.K), Paul Sharkey (Coll) and Justin Crawford (Syd) must be wondering what they did wrong to miss out on that team.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Not a lot of recognition here for Russell Greene. 3 premierships, 300 games, all Australian and best & fairest. Hard to split him with Burger and Gibbo.....superstars.

And captained Vic once as well.
Way too little love for him here.

 

[Samthegun]

And captained Vic once as well.
Way too little love for him here.

I met him when I was young in his B&F year (1984). I got his autograph...I think he thought I was a girl. (I did look a bit feminine back then.) It didn't help that the only pen we had available was a pink one!

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

Gordon Fode (St.K), Paul Sharkey (Coll) and Justin Crawford (Syd) must be wondering what they did wrong to miss out on that team.

Fode & Sharkey didn't meet the criteria having never played a senior game for the Hawks. Justin Crawford got dropped (club sanction for urinating).

 

[Dave Id]

Stuart Trott was a handy recruit in 1975.
St.Kilda captain in 1973.
Definitely a mature age recruit.
Popular menswear shop in Glenferrie Road.