Gumby to Freo

[apuchar]

Freo still undecided about Gumby according to article in Australian. Roberton has requested trade.

 

[Superstar swan]

He is a great talent and maybe the change of scenery would be the change of luck he needs, the bombers know how good this kid is that's why they have been so patient with him, would be a great pick up for the bombers

 

[theGav56]

Essendon has stuck by him through a lot of injuries and to be honest it looked like it was the end when his back and hamstrings started playing up again last year.

Personally I think the club should offer him a 2 year deal. It's not like he'd be on that much money so we'd probably be able to pay out the second year of his contract at the end of next year without blowing the salary cap.

For the development of Essendon's list this is not the year we do a big clean, IMHO. Another year to look at Brown, Steinburg, Ross, Davis and others with around the same time on the list as well as making a call on Gumby, Hooker and Pears at the end of next year as it'll be clearer who will take the club forward and which one of them that has good value but can be covered so they can be traded for a youngish mid then and the club can fill the extra KPP stocks with young talent to be developed. If they all get good preseason, and none seem to be carrying major injury issues into the preseason, then they should all increase their value this year.

The only thing I will say about Gumby only being offered 1 year by Essendon is that this could potentially be an alarm bell. He showed in glimpses this year what he could be capable of, his first quarter against Geelong and his third quarter against Hawthorn in games when the bombers were being smashed. If after that and the waiting for 6 years for him to get over knee, collarbone and repeated back/hamstring issues why would they only offer him one year? Is it related to him missing a few games late in the year due to "soreness"? If so perhaps the club has serious doubts whether Gumby's back can hold up. If that is true then other clubs should heed that.

I think the club should offer 2 years unless they want to trade him. If they want to trade him, offering a 1 year contract makes it look like they actually think he is worth something of value.

This is supposedly the superdraft, so I can't see why you wouldn't want to be fairly active in it, nd for me that means at least being open to trades on some of the players that you have put question marks against.

 

[Tas]

Bombers wouldn't get market value for him, have everything to lose and almost nothing to gain.

 

[theGav56]

Bombers wouldn't get market value for him, have everything to lose and almost nothing to gain.

What is market value for him? I thought it is what the market values him at and is prepared to pay, and if he is traded, that is probably what they will get unless he nominates 1 club and threatens to walk.

 

[Tas]

What is market value for him? I thought it is what the market values him at and is prepared to pay, and if he is traded, that is probably what they will get unless he nominates 1 club and threatens to walk.

Market value factors expectation, otherwise nobody would care which kid they got in the draft. Essendon paid a premium for his attributes (ie ranking him highly) on the basis of expectation. He has had injuries which have dulled expectation somewhat, but he is still capable of reaching a relative high point. When it comes to trading a guy who has had injury problems the expectation component takes a hammering.

It is similar to Hansen for us, if we tried to move him last year we would have got a bag of beans, but this year he has re-invigorated expectation somewhat and he would have more value now. Where Gumby is at, they will get r*ped in a trade and someone could potentially get a huge upside for a low cost. Unless they can re-envoke the miracle of the Lovett trade, they will get bent over.

 

[bombermick]

Melbourne are stupid if they're not getting into his ear. He finally seems over his issues, would come cheaply (both trade wise and salary) and has twice the talent of Dawes. Not that I want him to go ...

Crazy stuff.

 

[maynetenance]

this has gotta be the one post season where essendon could play the trade table pretty lightly no matter what happens with the gumby/monfries trade they come away like absolute bandits with the best kpf in the draft (daniher) and a superstar for nothing but $$$

 

[longdaveyjetta]

Have you seen steinberg?? He is hopeless.

I'm overseas so no, I haven't seen him, you may be right....I'm just going on match reports and opinions here..I've heard he has shown flashes of Brilliance but is very inconsistent....Would that be a fair assessment..The club must rate him as they have just given him a new contract....What do others think...Will Steinberg make it?

 

[DCFCFAN84]

A second rounder would be a stretch he is 24 and played only 28 games averaged just over a goal a game has potential but way to injury prone (what has he averaged 4 games a year over his career?). Maybe straight swap for Roberton?

 

[bombermick]

this has gotta be the one post season where essendon could play the trade table pretty lightly no matter what happens with the gumby/monfries trade they come away like absolute bandits with the best kpf in the draft (daniher) and a superstar for nothing but $$$

You're right, I suspect Essendon fans would be happy to sit with our draft picks - perhaps topping up with something for Monfries.

Essendon would be better off getting a draft pick for Gumby than taking a fringe player like Roberton IMO. Broughton on the other hand ...

 

[willoblue]

I believe Zach Clarke may be entertained as a straight swap for Gumby.

you rat.
You made me snort my beer out of my nose!
And cans of Heineken are 3.20 Euro a pop on Sundays in Paris!

 

[willoblue]

Essendon has stuck by him through a lot of injuries and to be honest it looked like it was the end when his back and hamstrings started playing up again last year.

Personally I think the club should offer him a 2 year deal. It's not like he'd be on that much money so we'd probably be able to pay out the second year of his contract at the end of next year without blowing the salary cap.

For the development of Essendon's list this is not the year we do a big clean, IMHO. Another year to look at Brown, Steinburg, Ross, Davis and others with around the same time on the list as well as making a call on Gumby, Hooker and Pears at the end of next year as it'll be clearer who will take the club forward and which one of them that has good value but can be covered so they can be traded for a youngish mid then and the club can fill the extra KPP stocks with young talent to be developed. If they all get good preseason, and none seem to be carrying major injury issues into the preseason, then they should all increase their value this year.

The only thing I will say about Gumby only being offered 1 year by Essendon is that this could potentially be an alarm bell. He showed in glimpses this year what he could be capable of, his first quarter against Geelong and his third quarter against Hawthorn in games when the bombers were being smashed. If after that and the waiting for 6 years for him to get over knee, collarbone and repeated back/hamstring issues why would they only offer him one year? Is it related to him missing a few games late in the year due to "soreness"? If so perhaps the club has serious doubts whether Gumby's back can hold up. If that is true then other clubs should heed that.

Hi, without being too rude, the highlighted part of your post is something which I disagree with.
Sure, the Bombers kept him on their list.
What would have happened if they had cut him loose?
I firmly believe that he would have been picked up by another club quick smart, albeit in the rookie draft, but this loyalty card is in my opinion overplayed.
Having said that I want 2 go on record as stating that I prefer when trades can be arranged which are as close to as mutually beneficial as possible.

 

[pacman]

Not much, Freo are only buying on potential and he is more than likely to get an injury than to get a game.
A pick in the 40's to 60's.

 

[Slattery_20]

Hope you're right. My reading of it from afar is Gumby and Monfries really want to stay, but their offers are rightly tempting.

Monfries is all but gone.

 

[Astro Bomber]

A second rounder would be a stretch he is 24 and played only 28 games averaged just over a goal a game has potential but way to injury prone (what has he averaged 4 games a year over his career?). Maybe straight swap for Roberton?

19 is the new 23, 23 is the new 28 and if you are 28 then just forget about it

 

[Slattery_20]

For the development of Essendon's list this is not the year we do a big clean, IMHO.

I think you might be very, very, very wrong there; reportedly a bit of a list squeeze for whatever reason - I suspect more recruiting.

 

[bombermick]

Monfries is all but gone.

That now seems the case. Still a chance to keep Gumby though ...

 

[hollywood23]

A question to doggies fans - what is your interest in Scott Gumbleton? From an Essendon supporter point of view, if we were to trade i'd be looking for a pick between 20-30. Your forward key position stocks are not great, and I personally rate Gumbleton as a very talented player who, with a full pre-season under his belt, could have a real breakout year in 2013. Seems to be over his injuries and is only 24, and to me he would seem to be a good fit for the doggies. My suggestion for a suitable trade is our pick 48 + Gumbleton for your pick 21. I would be interested to hear doggies fans views on this.

 

[Stamos]

i'd be looking for a pick between 20-30.

I'd think 40-60 would be a bit more realistic

 

[hollywood23]

I'd think 40-60 would be a bit more realistic

I think you'd find that with the amount of interest in him, and the fact he is a required player, we will receive something much better than that. In fact, you can count on it.

 

[Brendan Bee]

I'd think 40-60 would be a bit more realistic

LOL, good one

 

[theGav56]

I think you'd find that with the amount of interest in him, and the fact he is a required player, we will receive something much better than that. In fact, you can count on it.

How many "required" players get a 1 year deal again?

He is firmly on the trade table.

 

[Jesse G]

I'd trade gumbleton for our first pick of 32 for freos first rounder Seems reasonable

 

[Gaben]

I'd trade gumbleton for our first pick of 32 for freos first rounder Seems reasonable

No it doesn't.