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Hannebery's gotta go
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Thats a funny bit of spin, i guess you could spin it some more and ask who is the more courageous here, Hurley or Hannerbery ?.
It is not uncommon for players to get their head over the ball, i guess you are suggesting that Hurley is unaware of how to protect himself or playing for a free kick, and my answer to both those questions would be NO to both.
What is uncommon is for a player who is aware of the situation but still make contact with another players head and neck front on.
Then that same player do a soccer syle dive, when he realised he did the wrong thing.
Lol.
Hurley gets hurt in a non-malicious football collision whilst playing football.
He is able to finish the matches and walks off the field at the end in full command of his senses.
I'm sure his dad is going to be alright.
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Oh my!!!!
This is easily the worst attempt at justifying something I have read in a very, very long time. And that's after logging on here most days.
I think I'll let the Rookies play and have fun with this comment.
So far no one else is having fun with that comment.
Maybe that's because the majority of posters here and footy commentators that have actually played AFL agree with me and not you.
I don't believe he has any carry over points as i don't think he has ever been suspended, Hurley played out the game and seemed fine i can't see him getting more than a week so reprimand with an early plea.
But who really knows?
But who really knows?
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Really struggling to see a difference other than the jumpers.
No doubt Hannebery will get off.
Are you kidding? In that incident the player who gets bumped is stationary while the player bumping runs not him. In last nights case, two players going towards the ball (Hannebury slows as he gets to the contest and hands on the ball, Hurley still going full pelt). Sorry but there's a rather large difference between the two.
Now i am seriously concerned that you haven't actually watch the incident. Both players get hands to the ball at the same time, they both get to the contest for the ball at the same time. How on earth can you say Hurley was clearly first man to the contest?
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Two players going for the ball, one head on, one side on. The player who is side on goes past the ball and collects the other in the head while still trying to gather the ball afterwards. The speed affected the impact (Hurley staying on the ground) but the act was near identical.
Also, both players got their hands to the ball at the same time.
Two weeks down to one, can't let that in the game.
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I think it's clear from this incident that Hurley is not fully aware of how to protect himself. Or else he wouldn't have his head that low and be leading into the contest with it.
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Again my apologies nothing to do with Sydney glasses I read it wrong.
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That's not true. The issue is whether the ball is in dispute or not. If it is in dispute you can make incidental contact provided your objective was the ball either to mark or spoil, but you can't charge if they have marked the ball. If you collect them in the head you can be cited if it was a reckless or negligent act. If you arrive at the same time and you mark it and your knee goes into the back of the players head (for historical reasons) this is paid a mark. But there is no doubt a 100kg player coming at full tilt through the air into the back of the head of a player can do very very very serious danger to the player. This is even more the case where the other player is coming back with the flight of the ball and you effectively have two players going full bore into one another.
It is irrelevant whether the ball is in there air or on the ground. The issue is whether you must be cited and suspended in the event that you collect the player in the head when the ball is in dispute.
My instinct is that the answer to that is yes. But it is simply difficult to know because what it is encouraging is a situation where players chasing a ball should be protected at the expense of allowing other players to also attack the ball. We are unambiguously encouraging players to pursue the ball with the head down and saying to everyone else - don't play the ball but play the man - wait til they collect the ball and then tackle. Or stand in the way of a 100kg player until he collects it with whatever momentum he has and if he runs through you that's what we have encouraged.
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In truth, when it has ever been any different, when a player has his head over the ball whether it is 1890, 1900, 1920, 1990 or last night, he has been afforded protection, and if a player wants the ball he has to wait for the opportunity to get it without hitting him in the head to avoid a free kick.
In the past , the rule , or interpretation of the rule was more lax, granted, but head high contact has always been a free kick.
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Hannebery and hurley seem to collide every time we play essendon
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Agree, hannebery getting suspended is basically telling someone to stop still and wait for hurley to finally gather, the way he plays he will move 50 metres before he finally gathers
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Couldn't be further from the truth, the game has not changed, players sometimes have to wait untill they can tackle to avoid giving away a free kick, been the same for 150 years, hannerbury may have had to come from a different anglke, he clearly saw Hurley.
The law to protect the head and neck has always been there, just more stringently policed now.
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Hannebury was going for the footy, There is no rule that says you have to wait for Hurley to pick up the ball
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Theres a difference between someone standing still and bending over and a bloke running through him and 2 blokes going the footy and 1 going in Head first
The onus should be on both players not just the one who hurts the other bloke
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Spot on, although there is the rule not allowing high contact !!, did you forget that one.
If i run someone over because they were slow, or only had one leg, or they did not see me, it really does not wash.
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How do you know what he saw?
Never played footy clearly
Hanners had the ball under him trying to pick it up he isnt bumping he isnt deciding to attack
Its not even a free
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If you are going to try to insult me, go argue with someone else.
It's actually Pretty clear you have never played footy !!!!!!!!!!!!!, see i can attempt to insult you as well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you wan't to have convo addressing the pros and cons i am happy to though.
