Hardwick - How long until he's replaced as Richmond's coach

[Kram]

"I walk away as incredibly proud of our boys"

And that's why they will never get anywhere with this guy in charge.

 

[Rich01]

I heard a guy pushing a shopping trolley outside the Melbourne Town Hall mutter the exact same speech.

If they fall below 50/50 this year he's gone.

Yeah, nah.
It's more about the appetite to win.
At the moment he's not showing he can lead the club, so it's not promising.

 

[Leeda]

"I walk away as incredibly proud of our boys"

And that's why they will never get anywhere with this guy in charge.

No it is the indented culture of them all.

they need a planner who will put some fun into winning or something.. they seem afraid of winning. it is not anything but the
notion that they are richmond and they always fall at the last hurdle. can't define it but it is a small notion that some groups
grasp and get and they all rattle around and take onboard and then it all happens.

 

[juss]

Just hope for Caracella 2018

 

[sonnywalters]

If you judge it this way you are just as effective as David King.

The last three weeks are a better way to look at it. Place blame on the leadership team on the field or in the coaches box. Be ruthless and spark the fire. Hide it and talk to playing well for three quarters keeps 30 years of ineptness going.

Face responsibility or forever be consigned to mediocrity.

Blame the players or the coaching staff.
Acknowledging the better team distracts from the core issue.

Nothing will change.
Will be business as usual.
Cotchin will avoid all scrutiny and continue on his merry way earning 700k a year running around getting cheap dinky stats.
Noone cares.

 

[Rich01]

Nothing will change.
Will be business as usual.
Cotchin will avoid all scrutiny and continue on his merry way earning 700k a year running around getting cheap dinky stats.
Noone cares.

Totally agree. For the good of his career he should do a Ross Lyon and start again to ruin another club.

 

[sonnywalters]

Totally agree. For the good of his career he should do a Ross Lyon and start again to ruin another club.

Still patting yourself on the back for being 'stable'?

I think the Tigers have taken this whole 'good clubs dont sack coaches' thing a bit too far....
I think maybe the pendulum has swung too far the other way.....
Some kind of over compensating psychology at play....

Being shit and stable is no different to being shit and not stable.
The objective isnt stability - it is being good.

I think maybe you have the 'cause and effect' round the wrong way.

Success leads to stability.

Not the other way around.

Hardwick has to go. Cotchin has to go.

 

[SdKfz 181]

Nothing will change.
Will be business as usual.
Cotchin will avoid all scrutiny and continue on his merry way earning 700k a year running around getting cheap dinky stats.
Noone cares.

You should be more worried about how your pathetic club performed today, absolutely smashed by a bottom side.

 

[sonnywalters]

You should be more worried about how your pathetic club performed today, absolutely smashed by a bottom side.

I am worried.
I am not in denial.
If we don't win a final in the next 18 months then our coach will be gone.
I wont be wanting to keep him forever and ever just for the sake of 'stability' for stability's sake.

We have also won about 7 finals games since you last won one.
And no I dont count your old provincial VFL flags anymore than I count SANFL or WAFL flags.

So who is pathetic?

 

[sonnywalters]

Heck, Camporeale managed to win a final in a 11 game stint.

The question needs to be answered.
Will Hardwick's record ever be surpassed?

 

[sonnywalters]

The following coaches each have have more finals wins than Hardwick despite having fewer opportunities and much less games/seasons as coach.

Danny Frawley
Chris Connolly
Dean 'junk yard dog' Laidley
Mark Harvey
Michael Voss

How can anyone validly continue the claim that Hardwick can coach?

 

[Rich01]

Still patting yourself on the back for being 'stable'?

I think the Tigers have taken this whole 'good clubs dont sack coaches' thing a bit too far....
I think maybe the pendulum has swung too far the other way.....
Some kind of over compensating psychology at play....

Being shit and stable is no different to being shit and not stable.
The objective isnt stability - it is being good.

I think maybe you have the 'cause and effect' round the wrong way.

Success leads to stability.

Not the other way around.

Hardwick has to go. Cotchin has to go.

I think you misread my post.
Like Lyon, Hardwick has not shown that when it's time to show some true spirit, the coaching or leadership team can be inspired to go all the way.

It's time to be ruthless.
Forget the nearly there rep of a Hardwick or a Lyon and go with a coach with some balls to get it done. I'm glad he only has one year on his contract - some coaches have another 3-4 left for no other reason but reputation. Bad business.


Hardwick needs to take responsibility.
Otherwise Richmond, like Freo, will resort to blaming bad kicking in a quarter (or other inane things) as a reason they didn't progress to ultimate success.

 

[Scotsguy]

I think you misread my post.
Like Lyon, Hardwick has not shown that when it's time to show some true spirit, the coaching or leadership team can be inspired to go all the way.

It's time to be ruthless.
Forget the nearly there rep of a Hardwick or a Lyon and go with a coach with some balls to get it done. I'm glad he only has one year on his contract - some coaches have another 3-4 left for no other reason but reputation. Bad business.


Hardwick needs to take responsibility.
Otherwise Richmond, like Freo, will resort to blaming bad kicking in a quarter (or other inane things) as a reason they didn't progress to ultimate success.

What do you think of the rumour of Clarcko coming in? Says he fancies a developing team but not a full rebuild.

 

[Black Saab]

The question needs to be answered.
Will Hardwick's record ever be surpassed?

Hardwick goes this year if they don't make finals. I didn't have them in the Eight by a long mile before the season began. That they have been close in 3 of 4 losses means nothing other than they have no real chance of winning no matter what the circumstances. They aren't honorable losses. They are the losses of a team that cannot win. Those results were never in doubt before any of those games began except for perhaps against Freo. Hardwick cannot survive the inevitable. If Richmond fluke it and make finals it just throws a spanner in the works.

 

[Blue1980]

Still patting yourself on the back for being 'stable'?

I think the Tigers have taken this whole 'good clubs dont sack coaches' thing a bit too far....
I think maybe the pendulum has swung too far the other way.....
Some kind of over compensating psychology at play....

Being shit and stable is no different to being shit and not stable.
The objective isnt stability - it is being good.

I think maybe you have the 'cause and effect' round the wrong way.

Success leads to stability.

Not the other way around.

Hardwick has to go. Cotchin has to go.

I like the stability line has gone too far.

I think their simply not that good, 5-0 was flattering and now their reverting back to their level and it's reflected in their win loss record.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Just hope for Caracella 2018

A loss to us could make it happen for yous

 

[Blue1980]

I think you misread my post.
Like Lyon, Hardwick has not shown that when it's time to show some true spirit, the coaching or leadership team can be inspired to go all the way.

It's time to be ruthless.
Forget the nearly there rep of a Hardwick or a Lyon and go with a coach with some balls to get it done. I'm glad he only has one year on his contract - some coaches have another 3-4 left for no other reason but reputation. Bad business.


Hardwick needs to take responsibility.
Otherwise Richmond, like Freo, will resort to blaming bad kicking in a quarter (or other inane things) as a reason they didn't progress to ultimate success.

What the hell has Ross got to do with Hardwick?

Ross has got his sides to win finals and come within a whisker of 2 flags.

He's showing good signs in their rebuild currently. Hopefully we can slag him off in 24 hours...

 

[Rich01]

What the hell has Ross got to do with Hardwick?

Ross has got his sides to win finals and come within a whisker of 2 flags.

He's showing good signs in their rebuild currently. Hopefully we can slag him off in 24 hours...

Huh? Maybe read the content of the response to a previous post before shooting off at a single post.

Oh, and yeah a whisker of two flags will be remembered like that in the history books right? So close.

 

[Leeda]

It is the deadshit attitude of all people at Richmond who keep perpetuating this idea that close is good enough..

Just needs someone who is bold enough.. I know it is ironic but get a set of balls and get your head into gear and
get wound up enough that it hurts to lose.

that is the message that I can get from everything. Get everyone on board and get everyone complaining about it and
then get all players to absolutely get nuts and go for it..

Just saying that you're shit without this attitude and it needs to start somewhere. Feel angry that you lost and get it on..

 

[Blue1980]

Huh? Maybe read the content of the response to a previous post before shooting off at a single post.

Oh, and yeah a whisker of two flags will be remembered like that in the history books right? So close.

You compared the 2 like they were similarly failed coaches.

Hardwick has been ok IMO I think their whole issue is they built a side to make the 8 basically, not to win a flag and what you see now is the result

 

[footyfan1978]

Please sign him up for another 5 years.
Plzzzzzzzz!!!!!

Get it done Tiggy board.

 

[Rich01]

You compared the 2 like they were similarly failed coaches.

Hardwick has been ok IMO I think their whole issue is they built a side to make the 8 basically, not to win a flag and what you see now is the result

The aim of every coach is to win a flag.
Ross abandoned the Saints when he sold the farm to get them to peak. He tried his best at the Dockers to no avail.

Both Hardwick and Lyon have not won a flag.
They have both failed in their objectives for the amount of time they have been senior coaches - particularly Lyon.

 

[Blue1980]

Please sign him up for another 5 years.
Plzzzzzzzz!!!!!

Get it done Tiggy board.

In the name of their main objective, stability it should be done.

All board members should have mandatory 20 year stints, players minimum 7 year contracts if under 26

 

[Adz]

If they lose Dreamtime that could be it. 8 years is long enough.

 

[footyfan1978]

Got to sign up Taylor Hunt quick smart. 4 year deal.
Houli 6 year deal.
Riewoldt captain.
Josh Caddy, Corey Ellis, Bruce Lennon, Vlastuin, Elton John, George Constagna, Batchelor and Soldo all 7 year deals.
Get it done, get it done!!!!