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Bloody great post !!!
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The simple fact is that after 13 seasons, including 4 years as the dominant team in the league, the message became stale and the champions that led us through that dominance started to lose their ability to play at the same level they once did.
The off field stuff may have been a shock but the fact is that 2 years after the affair happened, we were a controversial review decision away from possibly playing in another Grand Final.
We've pretty much rebuilt without completely bottoming out, now we're looking at appointing the coach that will hopefully lead us to the next successful era.
It's no coincidence that as soon as a fresh voice was introduced that their seemed to be a renewed energy within the playing group.
hmmm. maybe. We had a chance to save the brizzy goal after the ARC decision. but could not. That inability to ice games/ in close ones was repeated since the flag.
We took a rusty Dusty into the Briz final, and we lost Prestia to injury in that game.
Would've been lucky to get any further. We gave 5 or 6 players a one game taste of finals. Hopefully we make finals again this year.
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Because i told you all last year that Dimma would end up coaching at Gold Coast sooner than later.
It's been pretty obvious to anyone that Dimma had been chasing ghost since 2020 and was his SOUL motivation. His soul motivation was to win one more and after EXHAUSTING all means possible to try and do that (re-sign Jack & Cotchin, Sign Tarrant to a TWO YEAR contract, Trade 4 picks for Hopper & Taranto), he realised it was not going to happen & CLEARLY started talking to other teams, despite 2 years left on his contract
The club made those moves thinking Dimma was committed to the end of his contract. There is no way the club would have done those moves otherwise. If they would, then someone at the club needs to be fired.
We are just as likely to finish bottom 4 than in the 8 at the moment. Those were big, bold moves to just put us in that situation.
From what i can see, Dimma has been given every bit of support along the way - right up to last off-season where we re-signed a bunch of old stars and traded away all our picks to support his vision that we could still get "one more" That was only 6 months ago. And he left.
But if you want to believe he quit to take on the Gold Coast because he is such a strong richmond man, then go for it. Ask a collingwood person if Malthouses decision to go coach Cartlon hurt their memory of him. When he poached over Daisy. Do you hear them talk very positively of Mick these days in the same way they did after. his final flag with them & he resigned?
Micks legacy at Collingwood definitely was lessened when he went to Carlton. Its impossible to say it had nil effect as it clearly did. Dimma is likely going to be in the same boat as Mick. Certainly no shame in that tho - both great coaches
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correct. missed that sb. i now know you have a sense of humour. i'll search for it in future.
So in summary, you know Hardwick has done the dirty on Richmond because:
- Mick Malthouse was unsuccessful in his coaching stint at Carlton
- Carlton signed Daisy Thomas as a free agent giving Collingwood pick 11 as compensation
- you wrongly believe that Collingwood supporters wrongly believe that Malthouse's Collingwood legacy is diminished by the above
- You think you told us last year Hardwick would end up coaching Gold Coast sooner or later
- Richmond drafted 2 much needed quality big bodied inside mids while you were screaming for Luke Dunstan, Jaryd Lyons Will Setterfield and Will Brodie.
- Richmond signed all time greats Cotchin and Riewoldt for 2023 on low money
- You wrongly believe these beneficial moves Richmond made cease to be beneficial if someone other than Hardwick is head coach
- Hardwick was trying to win another Premiership(this is shocking if true
)Folks, this is what happens when you start from a position of wanting something to be the truth, then go searching for evidence that it is true. I warn everyone else not to do this, it is dangerous. RJK is able to do it so well because he is so experienced at doing it.
So in summary, you know Hardwick has done the dirty on Richmond because:
- Mick Malthouse was unsuccessful in his coaching stint at Carlton
- Carlton signed Daisy Thomas as a free agent giving Collingwood pick 11 as compensation
- you wrongly believe that Collingwood supporters wrongly believe that Malthouse's Collingwood legacy is diminished by the above
- You think you told us last year Hardwick would end up coaching Gold Coast sooner or later
- Richmond drafted 2 much needed quality big bodied inside mids while you were screaming for Luke Dunstan, Jaryd Lyons Will Setterfield and Will Brodie.
- Richmond signed all time greats Cotchin and Riewoldt for 2023 on low money
- You wrongly believe these beneficial moves Richmond made cease to be beneficial if someone other than Hardwick is head coach
- Hardwick was trying to win another Premiership(this is shocking if true
Folks, this is what happens when you start from a position of wanting something to be the truth, then go searching for evidence that it is true. I warn everyone else not to do this, it is dangerous. RJK is able to do it so well because he is so experienced at doing it.
It's not a "done the dirty" comment i'm making - what is the obsession with acting like i make this shit personal?
I;'ve never met Dimma. He gave me THREE flags and one of the top 10 moments of my life - why would i want to personally "go after him"?
I just say things as i see them. This guy did lots of great stuff for us - 100% - but RIGHT NOW he has kinda dogged us. Like all our actions in life, they have a consequence & affect the way others see us/ Did him having an affair on his wife in the hub negatively affect some peoples opinion of him? Definitely. Has the way he has conducted himself in pressers since 2020 affected peoples opinion on him? Almost certainly as well. Will him breaking contract "to have a break", only for him to be taking on a job that he has been rumoured around for at least 12 months, if not more, to be his if he wants it? Definitely.
I've never said what percentages if affects is - its way to early to know. All i know is, YES - it definitely means something and changes things. And as its happening in the "now" - we should probably treat it pretty seriously.
You can be ok with your Ex hooking up with your friend after you break-up, thats a relatively mature reaction to change. But, if you are sending them waves, text of support and "wishing them well" - too overly keen to let it be known "I am ok with you guys exploring your options" - i reckon you need to have a bit of a look at yourself. I hope our club has more respect for itself to be par-taking in that kind of self serving tripe.
It's just time for us to get to work, be ruthless & not let history dictate our current/future.
Technically, Dimma is still under contract with Richmond. Seriously, why bother asking? Reckon i am going to send you screenshots of my contacts text? lol
And i don't have to provide you squat. Happy let the reality play out and remind you later what i said, like always.
My time on BF is split between dealing with people saying "Too Long, Didn't Read" & "Please provide all appropriate paperwork to reinforce your opinion".
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While we are on the subject of reminding people what they said later...
Did you see a certain D Rioli picked up another 10 Coaches votes this week playing as a back flanker? You will never live that one down RJK.
While we are on the subject of reminding people what they said later...
Did you see a certain D Rioli picked up another 10 Coaches votes this week playing as a back flanker? You will never live that one down RJK.
Seriously mate, the coaches points in that game were about as valuable as the mcdonalds award given out at auskick. That game was shithouse.
He is a good HBF. you got me. He is not an All Australian one, & technically i never said he was a Bad HBF, just that i preferred him to be RE-TRIED down forward as our Forwardline was (still is) broken AF & we have an abundance of HBF's like Baker, Short, Mansell - but we also now have Ross, Banks, Brown, Trevize, Broad, Vloss, Grimes, even Pickett can do it at times, but yes - Rioli is definitely a good HBF. How will i ever cope with you out smarting me on this one, rather minor technicality? You outwit me once in 4 years on a guy making it in a position that is quite commonly known as the easiest position on the ground to play. Go and plant your flag on that tiny ass mound - its cute.
Worth noting too..... The forwardline is still ****ing broken
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Lol, so we scored the most points in the AFL in 2022 with a broken forward line that could only be fixed by moving our best running defender to play in a position that had previously destroyed his will to live.
Makes great sense that.
I see things far more simplistically and business-like.
I stopped thinking about him the minute he walked out the door.
Unlike some devotees (and Hardwick family members), I was well aware he was well past his use by date, the message had worn thin and his decision making was off the boil.
Just like any player or coach, Richmond or otherwise, he's free to go wherever he wants to ply his trade.
He didn't do the dirty on us, he did us a favour.
And now if he goes to Gold Coast or wherever - he's just another coach I want to beat.
There's no loyalty in footy - it's a business.
I stopped thinking about him the minute he walked out the door.
Unlike some devotees (and Hardwick family members), I was well aware he was well past his use by date, the message had worn thin and his decision making was off the boil.
Just like any player or coach, Richmond or otherwise, he's free to go wherever he wants to ply his trade.
He didn't do the dirty on us, he did us a favour.
And now if he goes to Gold Coast or wherever - he's just another coach I want to beat.
There's no loyalty in footy - it's a business.
Lol, so we scored the most points in the AFL in 2022 with a broken forward line that could only be fixed by moving our best running defender to play in a position that had previously destroyed his will to live.
Makes great sense that.
With one of the worst defences - which featured Dan Rioli. Yet, here we are. in 12th position, a year later.
My argument has been the structure looks better with more x-factor and talent down forward, especially when it comes to creation & i think our depth down back can facilitate Dan being TRIALED down forward as an option worth exploring, even if its for a mid-game "zag". Its tiring its still being brought up by you same floggers every time you run out of anything worthwhile to say, yet still want to try and bait a fight with me, even after i saved everyone a lot of bullshit by IGNORING r2r over this same shit.
what did you honestly hope to achieve by bringing that up?
How about RJK you put your great reverse indicator powers to work and tell us what the club needs to do now. That way, they will know what not to do.
I agree with almost all of that in its entirety. I was always pro getting off Dimma's contract if an option arose - we did the right thing, i agree the magic sparkle had worn off. But, i think Dimma has somewhat done the dirty on us as i am pretty sure he still thinks he is the bee's knee's & he had explored those options. The second you do that while coaching a team & they under-perform the way ours did - you have to wonder if the players did not sense the divide and lose faith in his voice. The team looks identical now with Mini, minus the brainfart & weird shit - that all seemed to go once Dimma left, magically.
I am ok with him doing the dirty on us a lil bit, shit happens in business and its not a terminal thing. He will remain a legend tiger for ever. But its real and pointless to ignore. Dimma changed after the covid period like a lot of us and i just liked this version of Dimma far far less than the one who took us on a great AFL journey previously. People change all the time, its not a betrayal, but it is a fact.
I wish him well if he goes to Gold Coast. Got no reason to want to see him fail, except perhaps i always enjoy seeing the Suns fail as they are a corporate team created to serve the AFLS expansion and greed VS giving a footy team to a community that actually wants one.
How about RJK you put your great reverse indicator powers to work and tell us what the club needs to do now. That way, they will know what not to do.
win games, keep playing the kids and interview coaches and consider our options.
I'm going to be having a wank in my office if you need me any further, hold my calls.
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Technically, Dimma is still under contract with Richmond. Seriously, why bother asking? Reckon i am going to send you screenshots of my contacts text? lol
And i don't have to provide you squat. Happy let the reality play out and remind you later what i said, like always.
My time on BF is split between dealing with people saying "Too Long, Didn't Read" & "Please provide all appropriate paperwork to reinforce your opinion".
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If you're going to make serious claims like you have about Hardwick speaking to other teams while under contract to Richmond at least have the gonads to provide proof of some sort, otherwise it just adds to the list of conspiracy theories your pushing to keep your narrative that Hardwick did us dirty going.
You haven't provided a single piece of concrete evidence to back up anything you're claiming, you just select things that tie in with what you're pushing and try to baffle people with bullshit.
Must be a while between drinks, last time I knew you to have a wank was when we lost the 2022 Elimination Final on an ARC technicality.
Must be a while between drinks, last time I knew you to have a wank was when we lost the 2022 Elimination Final on an ARC technicality.
I am pretty sure you will find i was not a happy chappy over ARC-GATE. utterly pointless post
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Its going ok Balta, Young, D Rioli, Shai, Baker, Gibcus, Coulthard, Samson, Seth, Mozza, Hopper, Judson, and Taranto is a pretty decent start to go forward with.
Then there is. Cumberland, Bauer, Seth and Sonsie who all look to have the tools to help lift the club.
Club just needs quality key forwards to go forward with.
The other imortant issue is replacing these 3 players over the next few years whose versatility and co operability allowed the Tigers defence to be our point of difference and our weapon in Grimes, Broad and Vlastuin.
If we can get 2 youngsters to have similar versatilty to these 3 guys we will have done exceedingly well.
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Oh yeah he really has ****ed us.lol
Then you point out the afl system.
Well hello.
System is against sides winning for too long.
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