Player Watch Harley Reid isnt leading the rising star so far

[HairyO]

Brilliant news for Dear. Had a great season.

When he plays we win. When he doesnt we dont.

Such a huge impact from someone so young and not rated by any club other than Hawthorn (would recruiters really have ignored him due to family?).

 

[Farang83150]

Brilliant news for Dear. Had a great season.

When he plays we win. When he doesnt we dont.

Such a huge impact from someone so young and not rated by any club other than Hawthorn (would recruiters really have ignored him due to family?).

Gun

 

[g_TRAIN]

Darcy Wilson a smoky for the Rising Star? Afl.com.au said so:

"With one round to go, Wilson's numbers are almost identical to Dempsey's and he's now shown he can influence games on his own."

Upon closer inspection, Dempsey averages 2.5 more disposals, 0.9 more combined goals/assists, 1.8 more score involvements, 1.8 more contested possessions and 0.5 more tackles per game.

On the surface this may seem marginal, but for example score involvements are almost 50% higher for Dempsey, while goals/assists are twice as high.

So maybe not "almost identical". Still going to be a jet though.

Dempsey easily had a better year.

That's nothing against my boy Wilson though, what he's done as a first year player is pretty special.

He also had a 22 possession 3 goal game earlier in the year. Signs of things to come as a goal kicking winger.

 

[Mr Meow]

Dempsey easily had a better year.

That's nothing against my boy Wilson though, what he's done as a first year player is pretty special.

Yeah Wilson's going to be a great player, I see a bit of Holmes in him.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Yeah Wilson's going to be a great player, I see a bit of Holmes in him.

I think so too, the way they move is similar and both good kicks too.

Holmes is faster but Wilson has better endurance. (but sill very quick)

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

Thankfully Reid’s blistering start to the year slowed down in the 2nd half. Those journos saying 2 million a year were getting annoying.

There’s no player that can demand that much without it being a detriment to the team they are playing for.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Brilliant news for Dear. Had a great season.

When he plays we win. When he doesnt we dont.

Such a huge impact from someone so young and not rated by any club other than Hawthorn (would recruiters really have ignored him due to family?).

Franklin kicked 21 goals in 20 games in his first season.

Calsh has 19 after 14 games.

Has had a seriously good debut year.

 

[PhatBoy]

Franklin kicked 21 goals in 20 games in his first season.

Calsh has 19 after 14 games.

Has had a seriously good debut year.

Harsh coming from someone who likes a player called Gryan but I think id rate him higher if he didn’t have a name like Calsher

 

[Ricmel]

Franklin kicked 21 goals in 20 games in his first season.

Calsh has 19 after 14 games.

Has had a seriously good debut year.

This is a great example of a meaningless stat/comparison. It says more about Franklin's first year than Dear's. I looked at 5 forwards I could think of quickly - Ben Brown, Max King, Ben King, Eric Hipwood, Jacob Van Rooyen - all had better goal rates in their first year than Franklin. Dear is going to be a special player but not because of that metric.

 

[Soggy2112]

Darcy Wilson a smoky for the Rising Star? Afl.com.au said so:

"With one round to go, Wilson's numbers are almost identical to Dempsey's and he's now shown he can influence games on his own."

Upon closer inspection, Dempsey averages 2.5 more disposals, 0.9 more combined goals/assists, 1.8 more score involvements, 1.8 more contested possessions and 0.5 more tackles per game.

On the surface this may seem marginal, but for example score involvements are almost 50% higher for Dempsey, while goals/assists are twice as high.

So maybe not "almost identical". Still going to be a jet though.

Wilson has been super consistent all year, I feel like every Saints game I’ve watched he’s performed well in.

Not sure if he’s necessarily the best talent of this group but in terms of overall performance this year I’d definitely have him up there.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Darcy Wilson a smoky for the Rising Star? Afl.com.au said so:

"With one round to go, Wilson's numbers are almost identical to Dempsey's and he's now shown he can influence games on his own."

Upon closer inspection, Dempsey averages 2.5 more disposals, 0.9 more combined goals/assists, 1.8 more score involvements, 1.8 more contested possessions and 0.5 more tackles per game.

On the surface this may seem marginal, but for example score involvements are almost 50% higher for Dempsey, while goals/assists are twice as high.

So maybe not "almost identical". Still going to be a jet though.

Wilson is a shout.

Is kinda annoying the game were he got his RS nomination might be the earliest "body of work" nomination in this rewards history.

 

[Daniel B]

Harsh coming from someone who likes a player called Gryan

I just found the Roaming Brian clip where Gryan goes through all his brothers' and sisters' names. It was quite the bogan roll call.

 

[craffles]

Calsher and Gryan are not names. I don’t care that these dudes are using them as names, they are not names.

 

[Lingsface]

This is a great example of a meaningless stat/comparison. It says more about Franklin's first year than Dear's. I looked at 5 forwards I could think of quickly - Ben Brown, Max King, Ben King, Eric Hipwood, Jacob Van Rooyen - all had better goal rates in their first year than Franklin. Dear is going to be a special player but not because of that metric.

Yeah Jesse Hogan had the best first year and look how he has …. Oh wait.

 

[cherrypie]

This is a great example of a meaningless stat/comparison. It says more about Franklin's first year than Dear's. I looked at 5 forwards I could think of quickly - Ben Brown, Max King, Ben King, Eric Hipwood, Jacob Van Rooyen - all had better goal rates in their first year than Franklin. Dear is going to be a special player but not because of that metric.

John Butcher kicked 18 goals in his first 7 games

 

[Forward Press]

Calsher and Gryan are not names. I don’t care that these dudes are using them as names, they are not names.

John Butcher kicked 18 goals in his first 7 games

John - now there's a name you can set your watch to.

 

[craffles]

John - now there's a name you can set your watch to.

Well said.

 

[Forward Press]

Well said.

 

[RCAB]

Did you know the "Wizard" Watson is the first small forward ever to average three shots per game in their first season?

I know his inaccuracy gets talked up in preventing any discussions about his potential, but the last player to average three shots a game in their first season and score more behinds than goals was Ablett Sr, and he turned out pretty good.

 

[DapperDon]

Did you know the "Wizard" Watson is the first small forward ever to average three shots per game in their first season?

I know his inaccuracy gets talked up in preventing any discussions about his potential, but the last player to average three shots a game in their first season and score more behinds than goals was Ablett Sr, and he turned out pretty good.

So Hawks to trade Wiz to Geelong?

 

[Mr Meow]

Did you know the "Wizard" Watson is the first small forward ever to average three shots per game in their first season?

I know his inaccuracy gets talked up in preventing any discussions about his potential, but the last player to average three shots a game in their first season and score more behinds than goals was Ablett Sr, and he turned out pretty good.

There's no way to prove Ablett Senior and Mrs Watson didn't have a magical evening together 20 years ago.

 

[RCAB]

So Hawks to trade Wiz to Geelong?

You wish. The question is why didn't North take him, they had two chances.

 

[PhatBoy]

Did you know the "Wizard" Watson is the first small forward ever to average three shots per game in their first season?

I know his inaccuracy gets talked up in preventing any discussions about his potential, but the last player to average three shots a game in their first season and score more behinds than goals was Ablett Sr, and he turned out pretty good.

Well no, he isn’t: if we are going off scoring shots, he doesn’t average 3, or close to it - he averages 2.5. I would assume he averages the odd ‘did not score.’

But so too would have Charlie Cameron who actually registered 2.8 scoring shots per game in his first season and himself probably had numerous non-scores. And that’s having only looked at two players (Cameron and Eddie Betts).

Edit: Stephen Milne had 47 scoring shots from 17 games in his first year. That too doesn’t include shots on goal that didn’t register a score. So no, we don’t know that ‘The Wizard’ is the first small forward to ever do it because he’s not.

 

[The 747]

Calsher and Gryan are not names. I don’t care that these dudes are using them as names, they are not names.

OK Craffles

 

[The 747]

Did you know the "Wizard" Watson is the first small forward ever to average three shots per game in their first season?

I know his inaccuracy gets talked up in preventing any discussions about his potential, but the last player to average three shots a game in their first season and score more behinds than goals was Ablett Sr, and he turned out pretty good.

He's an excellent prospect, if he had not missed so many he would be getting a lot more hype*

*Massive ducker though