Opinion Has this Carlton list already peaked?

[Fadge]

Held together by bandages but he just had one of the best seasons of all time by an individual

Did he?

Really?

Yet he couldn't win the Players MVP or Coaches Award, and played a single final and failed to receive a coaches vote?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Did he?

Really?

Yet he couldn't win the Players MVP or Coaches Award?

One of those was rigged by an bias coach so doesn't really count

 

[Worm4]

Did he?

Really?

Yet he couldn't win the Players MVP or Coaches Award, and played a single final and failed to receive a coaches vote?

Take your anti Carlton behaviour where the sun don't shine, amigo.

 

[Worm4]

They really are a one man band and no other team relies on one player to the extent that the blues rely on their captain. As it is he’s being held together by bandages.

Refer to collingwoods brownlow team tally for 2024, and then tell me again, how no team relies on an individual more than Carlton does.

 

[Pistol Night]

Refer to collingwoods brownlow team tally for 2024, and then tell me again, how no team relies on an individual more than Carlton does.

Because we didn't lose for 9 weeks with 15 injuries and didn't carry on like the world was ending. Brissy has ACLs everywhere and won the flag. Stop with the victim mentality of injuries when you're going shithouse. Its sad. Injuries are guna hurt more when you're depth is terrible







This will end well.

 

[Pistol Night]

Take your anti Carlton behaviour where the sun don't shine, amigo.

Do the same on Collingwood threads then. **** me the hypocrisy of you fogs is breathtaking

 

[Worm4]

Because we didn't lose for 9 weeks with 15 injuries and didn't carry on like the world was ending. Brissy has ACLs everywhere and won the flag. Stop with the victim mentality of injuries when you're going shithouse. Its sad. Injuries are gun e hurt more when you're depth is terrible







This will end well.

Just reference what I consider an incorrect opinion. Don't get all gungho over it. Fact is , Nick goes down , Collingwood are stuffed and most people know it. Cripps goes down and everyone thinks we become Richmond like. It's hilarious how people are talking up injuries to star players - sad actually.

 

[Worm4]

Do the same on Collingwood threads then. **** me the hypocrisy of you fogs is breathtaking

It's a Carlton thread. We know the main 3 amigos and their anti Carlton agenda just love flooding these threads with the same BS . It's all in the banter thread perhaps keep your opinions over there and keep this one a little bit serious for a change

 

[Fadge]

Just reference what I consider an incorrect opinion. Don't get all gungho over it. Fact is , Nick goes down , Collingwood are stuffed and most people know it. Cripps goes down and everyone thinks we become Richmond like. It's hilarious how people are talking up injuries to star players - sad actually.

But Carlton did.

How did Carlton go without Tom De Koning for the last few games of the season?

A player who many would rate as Carlton's 6th best player.

 

[Fadge]

It's a Carlton thread. We know the main 3 amigos and their anti Carlton agenda just love flooding these threads with the same BS . It's all in the banter thread perhaps keep your opinions over there and keep this one a little bit serious for a change

Why don't you answer the question as opposed to playing the poster.

You said Cripps had one of the best individual seasons ever, and I refuted it.

Back up your claim - where does Cripps' 2024 sit amongst the all timers?

Because I didn't even have him as the best player in 2024 - that honor goes to Heeney, with Cripps on the second line with Neale (who jumped from 5th to equal 2nd courtesy of his finals efforts) - let alone one of the greatest seasons of all time...

 

[Fadge]

Take your anti Carlton behaviour where the sun don't shine, amigo.

It is the Main Board, right?

 

[Fadge]

Because we didn't lose for 9 weeks with 15 injuries and didn't carry on like the world was ending. Brissy has ACLs everywhere and won the flag. Stop with the victim mentality of injuries when you're going shithouse. Its sad. Injuries are guna hurt more when you're depth is terrible







This will end well.

I like the way they honestly think the only reason they're not consistently contending for flags is because of their unprecedented injury misfortunes each year.

Because whilst they truly believe that, they'll continue to deliver the same results as they have in recent times.

 

[Worm4]

It is the Main Board, right?

You've expressed the same opinion on every single thread relating to my club. Everyone knows your opinion. Do you get off or something expressing the same stuff over and over and over again ? Glad you get your little giggles and your amigo mates still sitting in Mexico doing a circle jerk over Carlton in an elimination final . It's quite boring.

 

[Fadge]

You've expressed the same opinion on every single thread relating to my club. Everyone knows your opinion. Do you get off or something expressing the same stuff over and over and over again ? Glad you get your little giggles and your amigo mates still sitting in Mexico doing a circle jerk over Carlton in an elimination final . It's quite boring.

If you don't want to hear from neutrals commenting about Carlton, in a thread specific to Carlton on the Main Board, I suggest you stick to the Carlton Board.

 

[Saint12]

Carlton have arguably been the worst performed side in the modern AFL era....and I cant see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Worm4]

If you don't want to hear from neutrals commenting about Carlton, in a thread specific to Carlton on the Main Board, I suggest you stick to the Carlton Board.

You're not neutral

 

[Saint12]

I like the way they honestly think the only reason they're not consistently contending for flags is because of their unprecedented injury misfortunes each year.

Because whilst they truly believe that, they'll continue to deliver the same results as they have in recent times.

Injuries cost us flags between 2004 and 2008. Can we be credited with 5 flags??

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If you don't want to hear from neutrals commenting about Carlton, in a thread specific to Carlton on the Main Board, I suggest you stick to the Carlton Board.

You are so far from a neutral poster it's laughable.

If you're going to try turn every thread into a d*** measuring contest between Pies and Blues just stick to the banter thread mate.

Most Carlton posters are happy to converse and disagree with other posters from other clubs with some level of respect, just not with you as you're a troll who belongs on the bay.

 

[JustaBattler]

But Carlton did.

How did Carlton go without Tom De Koning for the last few games of the season?

A player who many would rate as Carlton's 6th best player.

not only do you have the world's most accurate abacus but now you seem to have acquired teh ability to speak for the 'many' - aren't they lucky!

 

[adammania9]

Refer to collingwoods brownlow team tally for 2024, and then tell me again, how no team relies on an individual more than Carlton does.

Collingwood are a very well coached side that does not rely on individuals to carry the team. Collingwood won three of their last four games played without Nick Daicos, including a final.

 

[beerbandit]

You’re literally making my argument for me.

I’ve not made any claim regarding the quality of the player we’ll pick at 3.

Because as you said, he could be great, he could be crap. Only time will tell.

Meanwhile, Beer Bandit over here is certain pick 3 won’t have an immediate impact.

And can’t elaborate on as to why.

Well…we know why. It’s because Carlton.



So let me get this straight.

You’re certain pick 3 won’t do much in year 1, and your entire reasoning is because some draft picks are good and some are bad.

Meanwhile you still seem to think I’m claiming whoever we pick at 3 will make an immediate impact. Despite, of course, me not saying anything to that effect.

Yeah, maybe it’s time to sit this one out. You seem a bit all over the shop.

What are you on about? I think it’s time for you to sit it out my friend.

It’s an opinion thread.

I thought as a “mod” you’d understand this, you seem to be getting so worked up about my opinion that it’s becoming hilarious.

I won’t back down from saying that pick 3 won’t make you better next year, I’ll even use Fadge probability calculator if I have too.
Pick 3 will most likely prove beneficial for the future but to think that an unknown pick will make you better next year is ludicrous. It’s the AFL, these blokes are seasoned footballers, it’s not like it used to be.

You’ve got a bee in your bonnet, you came at me, I didn’t come at you.

Pull your head in, gee whiz you wouldn’t have too many mates if you jump down there throats like this for having an opinion.

Chill out bud.

P.S - Still waiting on the evidence that a pick 3 immediately makes that side better the following year.

Take pick 3 out, you’ve gone backwards with your trading.

Clubs flying past.

 

[schmuttt]

We needed to create opportunities for players below them and change the balance of our list. Too many slow pokes and not enough run and carry.

We might miss them a bit next year but overall we needed to do it at some point so bit the bullet. I'm of the opinion that Kennedy is the only one we may miss, but guess we'll only really know in 12 months time.

Carlton have the same problem staring them in the face that Melbourne had end of 2022 - an outdated gameplan and a question mark on whether the players on the list can adapt to a more modern system. I agree they absolutely have to start changing the list and they've done that, whether or not the change will come in time before Cripps/Weitering/Curnow/McKay are done is the issue.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Carlton have the same problem staring them in the face that Melbourne had end of 2022 - an outdated gameplan and a question mark on whether the players on the list can adapt to a more modern system. I agree they absolutely have to start changing the list and they've done that, whether or not the change will come in time before Cripps/Weitering/Curnow/McKay are done is the issue.

Yep. Pretty much in our bringing in Jackson, Pickett, Rivers, Bowey phase ATM.

We'd be hoping Moir, Wilson, the Hollands twins, Cowan and Pick 3 provide enough in the next 2-3 years to get our list more balanced and compliment our big brutes (same as Dees with Clarry, Trac, Viney etc).

Unfortunately while Kennedy and Owies etc were there those kids development would be hindered as they wouldn't get the same opportunities as they will without them.

We may well go backwards next year but it was without a doubt the right choice for the off season in my opinion. Our list will be far better positioned in 3-4 years time to catch the tail end of Curnow, McKay, Weitering etcs peaks with some kids more suited to the modern running game.

 

[Jeremias]

P.S - Still waiting on the evidence that a pick 3 immediately makes that side better the following year.

You'll be waiting a long while, because I never said it would. And I've clarified that a number of times yet somehow, hilariously, it still doesn't seem to have sunk in.

Meanwhile, your stance seems to be that there's no chance it will. And your evidence is...because Carlton. And because some draft picks don't work out.

Nice.

Opinions are great but when you talk in absolutes with no real basis for doing so, don't get upset when you're called out for it.

 

[schmuttt]

Yep. Pretty much in our bringing in Jackson, Pickett, Rivers, Bowey phase ATM.

We'd be hoping Moir, Wilson, the Hollands twins, Cowan and Pick 3 provide enough in the next 2-3 years to get our list more balanced and compliment our big brutes (same as Dees with Clarry, Trac, Viney etc).

Unfortunately while Kennedy and Owies etc were there those kids development would be hindered as they wouldn't get the same opportunities as they will without them.

We may well go backwards next year but it was without a doubt the right choice for the off season in my opinion. Our list will be far better positioned in 3-4 years time to catch the tail end of Curnow, McKay, Weitering etcs peaks with some kids more suited to the modern running game.

I think you've clued onto it much earlier than Melbourne (Who might not even make meaningful changes to their system in 2025, but have at least started pushing more for youth). Really need Jesse Motlop to have an injury free season IMO