Have Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs?

[White Dogg]

I know the grand final losses were only recently but it's clear GWS haven't recovered from the 2019 grand final loss to Richmond and Sydney haven't recovered from the 2022 grand final loss to Geelong. In my opinion it's fair to say Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs. Would you agree or disagree?

 

[RAPPA]

Disagree. Confidently.

 

[Tall poppy Syndrome]

Also, Geelong destroyed Port in the 07 Gf, while Richmond did the same to the Crows in the 17 Gf. So have they also destroyed the SA clubs?

Plus players from both went on a massive bender through Fortitude Valley the night of the 2020 Gf. So have they also destroyed the Queensland (night) clubs?

They’ve only got a couple of states to go and their national rampage will be complete!

 

[Tall poppy Syndrome]

Forget the Huns, Vandals and Ostrogoths sacking the Roman Empire! It’s the felines, the Cats and Tigers, takin down the Federation Baby!

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Also, Geelong destroyed Port in the 07 Gf, while Richmond did the same to the Crows in the 17 Gf. So have they also destroyed the SA clubs?

Plus players from both went on a massive bender through Fortitude Valley the night of the 2020 Gf. So have they also destroyed the Queensland (night) clubs?

They’ve only got a couple of states to go and their national rampage will be complete!

Port's destruction was a two-phase appraoch.

First was the '07 GF. Second was not employing Ken Hinkley, allowing him to go off and coach Port, where he has ensued they have existed in a sustained state of mediocrity for a decade.

 

[Toump Ass]

Sydney’s gf record is pretty poor recently. Longmire fluffed it against hawks and dogs as well.

Adelaide kinda destroyed themselves a bit. They seem pretty good at that.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Sydney’s gf record is pretty poor recently. Longmire fluffed it against hawks and dogs as well.

Adelaide kinda destroyed themselves a bit. They seem pretty good at that.

Based on preceding form, 2014 was the one they fluffed. 2016 was a close game in which Sydney got reamed by the umps. 2022 was a good coaching effort to get them to the GF, but most could tell they weren't on Geelong's level based on form going in. You could also say that he snatched one from the Hawks in 2012, so in totality, while one out of four isn't the greatest return, when you consider the context of those games it's about right. No one was beating the Bulldogs in 2016 with how they were umpired.

And getting into that many GFs isn't exactly easy. Scott beat him but for a long time Geelong were like a step below Sydney in that we kept making top 4 and going deep in finals but never got the GF. And talk to Port or Brisbane fans about how hard it is to even get the chance to win a GF. So many missed chances for them too. Are you a worse coach for getting your side into the GF multiple times and failing?

But he's been at the helm for a long time. It's fair to ask the question whether a breath of fresh air could do some good for them.

 

[Toump Ass]

Based on preceding form, 2014 was the one they fluffed. 2016 was a close game in which Sydney got reamed by the umps. 2022 was a good coaching effort to get them to the GF, but most could tell they weren't on Geelong's level based on form going in. You could also say that he snatched one from the Hawks in 2012, so in totality, while one out of four isn't the greatest return, when you consider the context of those games it's about right. No one was beating the Bulldogs in 2016 with how they were umpired.

And getting into that many GFs isn't exactly easy. Scott beat him but for a long time Geelong were like a step below Sydney in that we kept making top 4 and going deep in finals but never got the GF. And talk to Port or Brisbane fans about how hard it is to even get the chance to win a GF. So many missed chances for them too. Are you a worse coach for getting your side into the GF multiple times and failing?

But he's been at the helm for a long time. It's fair to ask the question whether a breath of fresh air could do some good for them.

Fair points.

I agree, no one was on Geelong’s level last year. No one was even close.

 

[Broar]

I know the grand final losses were only recently but it's clear GWS haven't recovered from the 2019 grand final loss to Richmond and Sydney haven't recovered from the 2022 grand final loss to Geelong. In my opinion it's fair to say Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs. Would you agree or disagree?

So the Lions destroyed Essendon?

 

[BruceTempany14]

So the Lions destroyed Essendon?

I’d say yes they did .


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[VinnieB]

Fair points.

I agree, no one was on Geelong’s level last year. No one was even close.

except the Pies

 

[CarnTheScray]

So the Swans have been destroyed 3 times in ten years? Club must be on the brink of folding then.

 

[Power Raid]

Also, Geelong destroyed Port in the 07 Gf, while Richmond did the same to the Crows in the 17 Gf. So have they also destroyed the SA clubs?

Plus players from both went on a massive bender through Fortitude Valley the night of the 2020 Gf. So have they also destroyed the Queensland (night) clubs?

They’ve only got a couple of states to go and their national rampage will be complete!

2007? That year never happened

 

[bungalow_bill]

So the Lions destroyed Essendon?

And the Pies in 2003. It's fun destroying big Vic clubs

 

[VinnieB]

And the Pies in 2003. It's fun destroying big Vic clubs

Hopefully you’ll get to play in another grand final while you are still on this earth. Approaching 20 years….

 

[Black Haze]

We destroyed the NSW clubs in the 2016 finals series. No coincidence they've both been flogged in the games that matter since then.

 

[Outtatym]

We destroyed the NSW clubs in the 2016 finals series. No coincidence they've both been flogged in the games that matter since then.

'we'

 

[Lingsface]

We destroyed the NSW clubs in the 2016 finals series. No coincidence they've both been flogged in the games that matter since then.

But they have both been in grand finals since and you haven’t..

 

[bradydaw91]

I know the grand final losses were only recently but it's clear GWS haven't recovered from the 2019 grand final loss to Richmond and Sydney haven't recovered from the 2022 grand final loss to Geelong. In my opinion it's fair to say Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs. Would you agree or disagree?

Thinks to self 'please thread, dont be started by a richmond supporter'

 

[Kwality]

I know the grand final losses were only recently but it's clear GWS haven't recovered from the 2019 grand final loss to Richmond and Sydney haven't recovered from the 2022 grand final loss to Geelong. In my opinion it's fair to say Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs. Would you agree or disagree?

What does that say about the other 16 clubs that did not make it to the GF, aka the moth ball clubs ???? Cot case ?

Has your mob ever made it to the GF in your living memory ?

 

[PhatBoy]

We haven’t destroyed shit.

Sydney are a side rebuilding on the run and missing a lot of players atm and who were 2-3 rungs below us last year. They will be back

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Apparently Steve Hocking and Geelong destroyed Richmond. Swings and Roundabouts

 

[sydney_gws]

I know the grand final losses were only recently but it's clear GWS haven't recovered from the 2019 grand final loss to Richmond and Sydney haven't recovered from the 2022 grand final loss to Geelong. In my opinion it's fair to say Geelong and Richmond destroyed the NSW clubs. Would you agree or disagree?

Disagree. What has destroyed GWS is free agency. The large contracts offered to players to get them for free ( by north for Kelly, Hawthorn for cognilio) has contributed to GWS geting into a salary cap mess ( though how they owe million to Haynes is a mystery as i dont think he was in great demand). They have contributed to their own demise by ridiculously over paying to move up to get Ash, Taranto, Cadman

 

[Kwality]

Disagree. What has destroyed GWS is free agency. The large contracts offered to players to get them for free ( by north for Kelly, Hawthorn for cognilio) has contributed to GWS geting into a salary cap mess ( though how they owe million to Haynes is a mystery as i dont think he was in great demand). They have contributed to their own demise by ridiculously over paying to move up to get Ash, Taranto, Cadman

GWS list management was set by the AFL when they were formed.

The AFL did a better job with GWS than the Suns, but have no doubt the plan was set to stop a flag.

 

[sydney_gws]

GWS list management was set by the AFL when they were formed.

The AFL did a better job with GWS than the Suns, but have no doubt the plan was set to stop a flag.

I thought AFL wanted GWS to win a flag , the best way to make them " cool " or "part of the furniture". We did get 4 extra picks ( the players we had to trade, O'meara, Hogan, Martin, Crouch).