Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

42

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[Mercy Seat]

 

[Bugs1977]

Would you be thinking of Logue as a forward? Or down back?

Swing man I would think

 

[BIGHAWK23]

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The answer to that question is yes. The club believes so. If the club views DGB as a 3rd tall long term than he is surplus to our needs as that's 1 area we are stacked in with players who could play that role. The club is investing in Jeka and Blanck to be the pillars back there with Frost and Sicily as 3rd talls. We're does that leave DGB. There's a method to the madness you need to look deeper.

Jeka has played 1 full game as an AFL defender

They are not banking our future defence plans on one game from a recently switched forward

DGB wont be traded

I get this is a hypothetical thread, but its a non conversation

 

[hfc70]

Fergus Greene

26

Fergus Greene

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

before Griff Logue

 

[MJA33]

Fergus Greene before Griff Logue

Yes!!! Please!!!

 

[Millsie69]

I think we need to be bold and do whatever it takes to get Pick 2 (unless Eagles give to Dees for Jackson)

As for Gryffindor - that's a no from me unless Gunston goes. (Still very confident JG stays)

 

[Bugs1977]

Phillipou and DGB for pick 2. Thank god some of you aren’t doing our trading!! Knowing our luck we would draft Wardlaw who keeps pinging his hamstrings meanwhile Phillipou becomes the next Bont and best player in this draft class and DGB develops into one of the best key defenders in the league as I expect he will.

To be fair DGB will have to become one of the best key defenders with how sh*t our midfield is because the ball is going to be in our backline a lot

 

[cryptor]

IF we were to trade DGB and pick 6 to get pick 2 then I would also want something else in return.

Either their 2nd rounder (pick 20) thrown back our way, or their future first and we send back something their way (our 2nd or future 2nd)

 

[KermitJagger]

Logue will have almost more suitors than anyone this trade period. He's going to get Freo comfortably a pick in the early-mid 20s.

Lmao no.

 

[Yardie]

Not to sure but it would have been late last week and some guy was waffling on about all the cars he owned

STOP IT. I'm trying to quit on derailing threads..........

So tempting.....

 

[CoagVex]

Can DGB become a FWD as a third tall?

 

[Ballsontheline]

If WCE want Jackson and are willing to cough up their first pick, (which is what it will take) then that's great for us, as it means they will not take their 1st pick to the draft.

Meaning we should be on the front foot getting involved straight away.

Essentially WCE could get Brockman, Pick 6 & 24 in exchange for Pick 2 and Pick 38

This should work as WCE will end up with - Jackson, Brockman and Pick 24 and they would only loose Pick 6 and 38.

Hawks gain pick 2, Brockman and slide from 24 to 38.

Thats how it should be done and you're not loosing DGB along the way.

 

[Steven Tyler]

If WCE want Jackson and are willing to cough up their first pick, (which is what it will take) then that's great for us, as it means they will not take their 1st pick to the draft.

Meaning we should be on the front foot getting involved straight away.

Essentially WCE could get Brockman, Pick 6 & 24 in exchange for Pick 2 and Pick 38

This should work as WCE will end up with - Jackson, Brockman and Pick 24 and they would only loose Pick 6 and 38.

Hawks gain pick 2, Brockman and slide from 24 to 38.

Thats how it should be done and you're not loosing DGB along the way.

We’d be losing Brockman, not gaining him

 

[TylerDurden]

If WCE want Jackson and are willing to cough up their first pick, (which is what it will take) then that's great for us, as it means they will not take their 1st pick to the draft.

Meaning we should be on the front foot getting involved straight away.

Essentially WCE could get Brockman, Pick 6 & 24 in exchange for Pick 2 and Pick 38

This should work as WCE will end up with - Jackson, Brockman and Pick 24 and they would only loose Pick 6 and 38.

Hawks gain pick 2, Brockman and slide from 24 to 38.

Thats how it should be done and you're not loosing DGB along the way.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Phillipou and DGB for pick 2. Thank god some of you aren’t doing our trading!! Knowing our luck we would draft Wardlaw who keeps pinging his hamstrings meanwhile Phillipou becomes the next Bont and best player in this draft class and DGB develops into one of the best key defenders in the league as I expect he will.

The same was said about Croad and McPharlin and look how that turned out.

 

[hardway]

If WCE want Jackson and are willing to cough up their first pick, (which is what it will take) then that's great for us, as it means they will not take their 1st pick to the draft.

Meaning we should be on the front foot getting involved straight away.

Essentially WCE could get Brockman, Pick 6 & 24 in exchange for Pick 2 and Pick 38

This should work as WCE will end up with - Jackson, Brockman and Pick 24 and they would only loose Pick 6 and 38.

Hawks gain pick 2, Brockman and slide from 24 to 38.

Thats how it should be done and you're not loosing DGB along the way.

I would say the PSD would be a strong tool when negotiating for Jackson. Just need Jackson to state that he will not play in Melbourne again and willing to sit it out if the Roos pick him up.

 

[Billyc]

The same was said about Croad and McPharlin and look how that turned out.

And let's not pretend McPharlin didn't go on to have an excellent career. To get quality, you need to give up quality.

 

[hawkmang]

And let's not pretend McPharlin didn't go on to have an excellent career. To get quality, you need to give up quality.

Likely Fremantle’s greatest ever defender lol, we got lucky that Croad wanted out and came back to us

 

[TheFourPillars]

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The answer to that question is yes. The club believes so. If the club views DGB as a 3rd tall long term than he is surplus to our needs as that's 1 area we are stacked in with players who could play that role. The club is investing in Jeka and Blanck to be the pillars back there with Frost and Sicily as 3rd talls. We're does that leave DGB. There's a method to the madness you need to look deeper.

So you know this to be fact? Or are you just referring to others here that have mentioned it

 

[TheFourPillars]

Ok so this pours cold water on any pick upgrade at least with WCE

 

[Fleabane]

Maybe I just haven't had enough sleep but I am finding this off season exhausting! Please Trade Gods, let there be some real Hawthorn news soon ...

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Can DGB become a FWD as a third tall?

 

[ACTion Hawks]

The same was said about Croad and McPharlin and look how that turned out.

Wouldn't that be more equivalent to DGB and Brockman for Pick 2? After all, McPharlin wanted to leave and would have gone PSD so we had no bargaining power and Croad was a close pick to DGB but had played more. We are also talking the difference between pick 1 and 2.

The reality is the price is whatever a club is willing to pay - similar to the price of a house. Depends on how keen we are to get the third best player (given Ashcroft is F/S).

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

So you know this to be fact? Or are you just referring to others here that have mentioned it

The latter. Don't have definitive info right now. If we want pick 2 he looks to be the sacrificial lamb. Ruthless yes but to me is the right call. Others can disagree that's why were debating it.

 

[butlers hawks]

Ok so this pours cold water on any pick upgrade at least with WCE

I am not anywhere near in the camp of lets give up one of our best young assets to jump 4 slots in the draft, however no this doesnt really snuff it out. Simply says that they wont put up pick 2 for Jackson and that they dont want to lose their strong draft hand. The people in the trade for pick 2 camp could still say that trading back to 6 still happy without effecting both statements