List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management 2023

[barbster]

We’ve got a pretty solid backline, and a rookie in James Van Es who’s built like a brick shithouse and an absolute mongrel.

I think we’re in a spot to have a gander at him.

Can he ruck at all, if he’s asked to play fwd/ruck?

Backline would be his best option. Has height, good intercept mark and kick.

 

[Billyc]

No surprises with those three delistings. None have any trade value

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Depends on who you ask. Some considered Jeka to be the most amazing talent not in the AFL with a disposal by foot that was delivered with tactical precision 100% of the time. Some were more balanced and felt that his attitude and workrate weren't quite up to AFL standards desptie his obvious talent.

it's easy to forget workrate and 100% application are skills you have to learn and improve on just like any other

 

[badboybobba]

I thought if we have 6 spots we qualify for 6 picks, but Theyed come in very late rounds.

It used to work like that but because you can trade out future picks it has changed. As it stands we only have 4 picks in the national draft

 

[Birdland]

Here's Version 1 of the state of our list for 2024! I have done this for the last couple of seasons so thought I'd crank it out again.

Some notes:

• I have based all contract lengths off the info currently in our own Contract Status thread.
• Brockman and Kosi I just chucked straight in the 'delisted/retired/traded/FA' box because they are 99.9% gone, if not more.
• Newcombe I have auto-promoted to the senior list because I am 99.9% sure we need to do that this year. The other rookie listed players I have left on the rookie list and will wait for confirmation of any other upgrades.
• At this stage we will require a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 10 players to be acquired via some combination of re-signing (Greene, Bramble, Long, Serong, Bennetts), trade, free agency, national draft, PSD, rookie draft and SSP - looks like Massimo D'Ambrosio will be one of those!

As always, let me know if you spot any mistakes!

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You can move JB at least into the Cat B spot (done deal) but maybe better depending on the trade period.

 

[Franko Armani]

Remember guys, as a rule - you can only trade a player that you’re willing to keep.

 

[crazywildhorse]

how likely is Scrimshaw to North looking?

 

[Blackhawk42]

how likely is Scrimshaw to North looking?

I would say entirely unlikely.

Hasn't all the talk on this one been confined to Bigfooty rumours and nothing else? And not necessarily from the reputable posters?

 

[crazywildhorse]

I would say entirely unlikely.

Hasn't all the talk on this one been confined to Bigfooty rumours and nothing else? And not necessarily from the reputable posters?

I've only read it here, within our mixture of good sources and speculation. I don't really go outside what Twitter or this gives me.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I would say entirely unlikely.

Hasn't all the talk on this one been confined to Bigfooty rumours and nothing else? And not necessarily from the reputable posters?

Pretty sure the reputable posters said Scrimshaw being traded would be deeply unpopular with the playing group.

 

[hawkinoz]

how likely is Scrimshaw to North looking?

Likely gone quiet after Hawks telling he won't come cheap. Pick in teens or no deal.

Now that Norf have extra picks( 19 & 19,20 from 2024), it may come up again if they are not able to use those extra picks for some player or pick trades.

They may keep their powder dry for pick 14 as it can be used to get pick 4. If they are not able to do deal there & we still have pick 30, we could try and trade for 14 with 30 or 49 going back for Scrimma.

Obviously they would have approached first thinking we may give him up for their pick 40 or 52 or F3.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Likely gone quiet after Hawks telling he won't come cheap. Pick in teens or no deal.

Now that Norf have extra picks( 19 & 19,20 from 2024), it may come up again if they are not able to use those extra picks for some player or pick trades.

They may keep their powder dry for pick 14 as it can be used to get pick 4. If they are not able to do deal there & we still have pick 30, we could try and trade for 14 with 30 or 49 going back for Scrimma.

Obviously they would have approached first thinking we may give him up for their pick 40 or 52 or F3.

Scrimshaw would have to agree due to being in contract, and he wouldn't.

 

[hawkinoz]

Scrimshaw would have to agree due to being in contract, and he wouldn't.

Well that too. So if North want him, they have to offer him a juicy contract to tempt him.

So yes, they have to satisfy Scrimma and HFC. Clearly that bar has not been met, hence silence.

That doesn't mean it won't come up again. Lots of water to flow under the bridge.

If we have traded a player like CJ, we may be loathe to trade Scrimma too. Too many moving pieces.

Point is that just because there is silence now doesn't mean the past info was NOT credible,

 

[Dewnior]

Without giving much away - Bramble just bought a fairly big ticket item that I wouldn’t have thought a bloke without a contract would have splashed out on. Make of that what you will.

Perhaps it's a parting gift? We have to spend our salary cap in some way

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I would say entirely unlikely.

Hasn't all the talk on this one been confined to Bigfooty rumours and nothing else? And not necessarily from the reputable posters?

Who knows, trade period has not even commenced yet.

In saying that I hope we keep Scrimshaw.

 

[kingcobey78]

My guesses is pick 34/39 from WCE for Brockman as a pick

Seeing that Liam Ryan has stated he wanted to come to Victoria, would Brockman for Ryan be an option?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Seeing that Liam Ryan has stated he wanted to come to Victoria, would Brockman for Ryan be an option?

Where did he state that?

 

[kingcobey78]

Where did he state that?

Sorry it was rumoured a month or 2 ago that Hawthorn were keen on getting Ryan to the Hawks.

Report: Hawks interested in luring premiership Eagle east

The 2018 premiership star remains contracted at the Eagles for 2024.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Sorry it was rumoured a month or 2 ago that Hawthorn were keen on getting Ryan to the Hawks.

Report: Hawks interested in luring premiership Eagle east

The 2018 premiership star remains contracted at the Eagles for 2024.

www.sen.com.au

Yeah was shut down fairly quickly - sorry I was hopeful it had started up again.

 

[kingcobey78]

Yeah was shut down fairly quickly - sorry I was hopeful it had started up again.

Would it be worth the Hawks seeing if a trade for Ryan would be possible or has Ryan come out and said he wants to stay at WC?

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Would it be worth the Hawks seeing if a trade for Ryan would be possible or has Ryan come out and said he wants to stay at WC?

This was already asked and answered just above your own post.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

VFL Boxhill best first year player Josh Bennetts. I am a big fan of Bennetts and I reckon he could well be up graded to the senior list for 2024.

Pic via Boxhill instagram page

 

[FB19]

Surprising Fionn Ohara got homesick this year given the amount of spuds we’ve been linked to this trade period.

 

[hawkmang]

Surprising Fionn Ohara got homesick this year given the amount of spuds we’ve been linked to this trade period.

He already left one country to get away from spuds, must be scared they’re following him

 

[Hawk Hawkins]

There is a veteran forward at Brisbane who is on the outer. Could be a good complement to Lewis?