List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management for 2025

[Scrads]

Usually do one of these before the trade period but was caught-up with other stuff this year so here is my post-trade period update! This is what I have at the moment. As you can see, firstly the list is STACKED in terms of talent (which we already knew) but is also pretty close to being completely full as it is. If what I have is correct, then we have 36 primary list, 4 Cat A and 1 Cat B locked in for next year which leaves us with limited options in terms of drafting next month and SSP/MSD in 2025.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are likely to delist-then-rookie one or both of Gunston and/or Breust for flexibility. Regardless, we can only intake a max of 2 players to primary/Cat A list at the moment plus the option of another Cat B player if we want (which I suspect we will re-sign Bennetts with).

As usual, if you spot any mistakes then please let me know

 

[BIGHAWK23]

What a sh*t comment.

Show some respect mate.

He has been a great servant of the club in his short time, and it must be difficult for him and his family - as it would be for many young men in his position.

The last thing they’d need is some internet d**khead sinking the boots in unnecessarily…

Fair point

But don’t act like it’s a personal attack

Like a “dad” getting on a forum

 

[Ned Ryerson]

If you're a delisted player it might make your chances of being picked up elsewhere more difficult if your dad is being publicly stroppy on Bigfooty. I'd be keeping my mouth shut, personally.

 

[DogDaySonny]

If you're a delisted player it might make your chances of being picked up elsewhere more difficult if your dad is being publicly stroppy on Bigfooty. I'd be keeping my mouth shut, personally.

May or may not be dad. Likely is but could be uncle or aunty. Or a cousin. Or someone that doesn’t even know but is trying to troll. Or someone that only knows have the story and skipped to the last page without reading the rest.

I’m not saying it isn’t dad, just saying we don’t know. Even when Bennett’s delisting is listed publicly we still won’t know if birdland was the man or not. Beauty of the Internets.

 

[Birdland]

If you're a delisted player it might make your chances of being picked up elsewhere more difficult if your dad is being publicly stroppy on Bigfooty. I'd be keeping my mouth shut, personally.

No fair point, apologies a bit of frustration

 

[hardway]

Bennetts and JOS very stiff to not be on the list. Watson basically has made the small forward position his own. Butler is the lucky one due to having a contact. The dogs will come hunting for another delisted hawk and blues can do with either of the 2 if not both.

 

[streetspirit]

Hawks make further list change

Hawthorn small forward Josh Bennetts will not be offered a contract for the 2025 AFL season.

www.hawthornfc.com.au

 

[Baz_hawk]

No fair point, apologies a bit of frustration

Frustration is understandable, Josh had been tracking well and shown a lot of promise at Box Hill. Definitely not the best way to handle the situation if all indications were positive up until the end.

Really hope he gets another shot at it, seems like a great kid.

 

[HawthornHawk]

Hawks make further list change

Hawthorn small forward Josh Bennetts will not be offered a contract for the 2025 AFL season.

www.hawthornfc.com.au

Very surprising move to not offer Bennetts or JOS contracts imo. We made great strides in that part of the field this year but it's the one of the few areas we lack depth.

 

[Steven Tyler]

In my very humble opinion I think Bennetts has shown more at Box Hill than Butler has

 

[Ned Ryerson]

May or may not be dad. Likely is but could be uncle or aunty. Or a cousin. Or someone that doesn’t even know but is trying to troll. Or someone that only knows have the story and skipped to the last page without reading the rest.

I’m not saying it isn’t dad, just saying we don’t know. Even when Bennett’s delisting is listed publicly we still won’t know if birdland was the man or not. Beauty of the Internets.

All fair points - I more meant my comment in good faith. Regardless of the relation - probably not the best idea to go public with comments like that.

 

[SSSSSS]

In my very humble opinion I think Bennetts has shown more at Box Hill than Butler has

One has a contract and the other doesn't.

I do agree with you though. Surprised at the delisting. Thought he has some tricks.

 

[parsons nose]

Odd that Birdland lists Richmond as his club. No?

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

Odd that Birdland lists Richmond as his club. No?

I have spoken to JB's mum in one of the intraclub match, and yeah they support Richmond.

I feel they started following the Hawks after JB made it to the team.

 

[Dewnior]

In my very humble opinion I think Bennetts has shown more at Box Hill than Butler has

Perhaps, but I think Butts has the higher ceiling. And based on the state of our list I'd be taking the punt on Butts over Bennett's.

It's moot anyway as Butts has another year on his contract and Bennett's doesn't.

fwiw, I really liked Bennett's and it's a shame to see him delisted.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Odd that Birdland lists Richmond as his club. No?

Not really - if my son was drafted to play at another club of course I’d outwardly support them but I’d still be a diehard Hawthorn supporter.

 

[Since 2001]

Why does it on afl site say we hold pick 13? Did we make a trade

Untried forward delisted as Hawks continue list changes

Hawthorn has delisted Category B rookie Josh Bennetts ahead of November's draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[OnTheRocks]

Although it's hard to see almost any player desisted from our squad, this seasons cull has a bit of ruthless Hawks about it, I likey.
The window is opening

 

[2008wasoverDEW!]

It's been mentioned multiple times before, but the list spots were genuinely very tight this year when considering Battle and Barrass came across, and Scaife was signed until the end of 2025.

Josh Bennetts is unlucky in that he was competing against some of the best small forwards in the league to get a senior game at Hawthorn.
These decisions are never personal, and I hope for Josh's sake he will get a second crack elsewhere.

 

[kirbatron]

Yes could have explored options earlier, very late now. No they told him they could not make a decision on him until trade period ended. (2 weeks ago?) But in hindsight now that doesn't even make sense. All along they have told him how great he is, not one negative...until today. Sorry no spots left!

I'm sorry to Josh & the family. I thought he could play a bit & hope he gets an opportunity elsewhere.

good luck

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

In my very humble opinion I think Bennetts has shown more at Box Hill than Butler has

Yep. Butler will probably end up the same way next year.

We're just too deep atm. Wrong place and the wrong time.

Bennets will get a go elsewhere.

 

[Clarkos_Soldier]

Well you can stop talking about Bennetts now because he's gone. Delisted today and the family is devastated for Josh and very angry with the HFC.

Strung out for weeks with nothing but positive comments. Put yourself in his shoes!!

I feel for him and wish him all the best. Sometimes in life you think your plans have hir a brick wall but then something even more appropriate comes along. If he was let go so late it's because he was very close to being retained which means someone else will likely give him an opportunity. Good luck.

Bennett's delisting means one of two things:

1. We were talking to a delisted player that we rate but wanted to make sure we secured that player before Bennetts was let go, or

2. We were negotiating for another pick and have secured the deal. We are likely moving up the draft order and picking up a player that is rated higher and who is similar to Bennetts (edit: doesn't have to be though given we are stacked for small forwards).

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Yep. Butler will probably end up the same way next year.

We're just too deep atm. Wrong place and the wrong time.

Bennets will get a go elsewhere.

I don’t see the depth some of our fans rave about…. We have some solid depth, but a lot of our depth are unproven so far!

So important as we start our upward trend, we continue to nail two younger players a year! Too keep our list in a good position.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Disappointed for JB, I really thought he'd be given another crack, but understandable given how tight spots are.

A good reminder for folks that these boards are often perused by family members of players. Particularly worth remembering when diagnosing a player with ADHD based off an action on the footy field, or calling one of our own "garbage" or a "spud".

 

[barbster]

With the recruitment of Watson and Gini it was always going to be hard for Sully & Bennets. Retaining Breust for another year didn't help their cause.

 

[killerspud]

Orange man indicates idiocy...

Now now. Let he who hasn't raved and ranted at the size of Arnold Palmer's Penis cast the first stone