List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management for 2025

[Scrads]

Usually do one of these before the trade period but was caught-up with other stuff this year so here is my post-trade period update! This is what I have at the moment. As you can see, firstly the list is STACKED in terms of talent (which we already knew) but is also pretty close to being completely full as it is. If what I have is correct, then we have 36 primary list, 4 Cat A and 1 Cat B locked in for next year which leaves us with limited options in terms of drafting next month and SSP/MSD in 2025.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are likely to delist-then-rookie one or both of Gunston and/or Breust for flexibility. Regardless, we can only intake a max of 2 players to primary/Cat A list at the moment plus the option of another Cat B player if we want (which I suspect we will re-sign Bennetts with).

As usual, if you spot any mistakes then please let me know

 

[killerspud]

Angry?

It’s professional sport

Grow up

I'll remind you of that in your next juvenile post.

The guy's son has just been delisted - cut him some slack and dont be a ahole. Josh Bennetts has probably gone a lot further in playing AFL than you have, he's lived the professional sport thing - you havent

 

[killerspud]

In my very humble opinion I think Bennetts has shown more at Box Hill than Butler has

Agreed but Butler had had thr severe injury and was a highish draft pick. I like that we at least rehabilitate an injured player and give them a shot before delisting them.

I feel for Bennetts as he definitely has potential. He also has time on his hands. Hope he gets rookied somewhere

 

[number23]

Agreed but Butler had had thr severe injury and was a highish draft pick. I like that we at least rehabilitate an injured player and give them a shot before delisting them.

I feel for Bennetts as he definitely has potential. He also has time on his hands. Hope he gets rookied somewhere

North have cleaned their list up a bit. They and the Tigers would be well served by looking at JB.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I liked what I saw of JB, thought he had a future with us and was building.

Intriguing decision to delist him, and what that might mean.

All the best to him going forward.

 

[TheFourPillars]

It's a difficult time for the bennetts family and I don't want to inflame anymore anger but I will say this. The feedback about bennetts is well deserved and should be positive. It was the truth of the season he had at box hill before he got injured.

Unfortunately even though his feedback was positive it is still a harsh business. Players spots are really tight. I wish Josh all the best for the future I will surely miss him running down the wings at box hill. Good luck Josh hopefully some other club will give you a chance to continue your dream of being an AFL player.

 

[Howe Amazing]

Did I read on here the Dogs were keen on JB? It seems a lot more quality players are being cut this year with great depth in this draft. If he doesn’t get a spot I hope he knuckles down and gets a chance in mid season draft.

 

[Sixpence]

No fair point, apologies a bit of frustration

Don't think you have anything to apologize for, nor do I think you've been "stroppy". You have every right to be disappointed and I think most here appreciate your candor, even if it does reflect negatively on the club.

Best of luck to Josh.

 

[cryptor]

It’s a reflection of how strong our list has become that there wasn’t room to keep JB.

Hopefully he gets a go elsewhere.

 

[brad sue well]

Don't think you have anything to apologize for, nor do I think you've been "stroppy". You have every right to be disappointed and I think most here appreciate your candor, even if it does reflect negatively on the club.

Best of luck to Josh.

We just have the possibility of a family member who has given insight into a HFC player and he gets hung on. I don’t get it.

Sixpence reply is spot on.

I was at the training session in the preseason where he was concussed, eyes glazed over walking by in the car park.

Gave himself every chance, good on him.

Wouldn’t be ideal if he was still overseas.

 

[Bugs1977]

I feel for him and wish him all the best. Sometimes in life you think your plans have hir a brick wall but then something even more appropriate comes along. If he was let go so late it's because he was very close to being retained which means someone else will likely give him an opportunity. Good luck.

Bennett's delisting means one of two things:

1. We were talking to a delisted player that we rate but wanted to make sure we secured that player before Bennetts was let go, or

2. We were negotiating for another pick and have secured the deal. We are likely moving up the draft order and picking up a player that is rated higher and who is similar to Bennetts (edit: doesn't have to be though given we are stacked for small forwards).

The Bennett’s delisting could be that we want to bring in Cody Anderson as a back up small forward whilst he serves his apprenticeship at Box Hill

 

[KermitJagger]

The reality for Bennetts is that we've got Macdonald, Wiz and Ginnivan already starting, with Butler having a better scope to play high level footy. It's a good reflection on our depth in that area that we've been comfortable delisting two small forwards.

 

[FB19]

The reality for Bennetts is that we've got Macdonald, Wiz and Ginnivan already starting, with Butler having a better scope to play high level footy. It's a good reflection on our depth in that area that we've been comfortable delisting two small forwards.

I suspect it means both our picks will be forwards ideally either a KP or 3rd tall plus Anderson who would get his chance as a pressure forward early on. Or maybe we have our eyes on a small forward like Joe Berry or Hannaford of we trade up.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Strung out for weeks with nothing but positive comments. Put yourself in his shoes!!

You'll have to excuse him, Bighawk is the tuffest poster on BigFooty.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

The Bennett’s delisting could be that we want to bring in Cody Anderson as a back up small forward whilst he serves his apprenticeship at Box Hill

Anderson may start as a forward, but I feel he will become more of a mid. Would not surprise me to see him push for a few games in 2025 as a forward.

 

[flinchfree]

I'm sorry, but don't get the angst.
If I get this right - and I think I do, then were JB to hold a spot some other kid doesn't - right?
Remind me who I'm supposed to feel bad for, or is it just when I speak to one I'll be crestfallen and then out both sides of my mouth be equally crestfallen for the other, telling both they were somehow unjustly assessed?

Pro sports guys.
Best of luck Josh chasing this career or any other path you choose.
Family would do well to not insert themselves on public forums, there can quite literally be no benefit.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I'll remind you of that in your next juvenile post.

The guy's son has just been delisted - cut him some slack and dont be a ahole. Josh Bennetts has probably gone a lot further in playing AFL than you have, he's lived the professional sport thing - you havent

Remind me?
Please, take your moral championing elsewhere

Professional sporting environments are tough places

Josh doesn't need his dad on a forum talking about how angry they are
They can be as angry as they want, they may have a right to be

Don't put it here

Burns any chance of being picked up

 

[BIGHAWK23]

You'll have to excuse him, Bighawk is the tuffest poster on BigFooty.

Here they all are

Is Crypt coming next?

 

[eldorado]

Regarding our limited CatB slots, (2) we added Jaime UH a while ago, and then we have been talking about the Storm rookie. (Matt Hill?)

With that, it became a choice between Hill and Bennetts for the last space (or elevate Bennetts, and only take one pick in the draft)

Sorry to see him go. He's got some skill and tricks...hopefully someone will pick him up as a DFA

 

[MazHawk]

With us delisting Bennetts and no word said on another rookie (yet) the next couple of weeks will be very interesting.

If we do delist (by consent) and rookie someone like Gunston to leave a third spot open I'd say there's a very strong chance we've identified some talent we want and have probably made some agreements with another club regarding pick upgrades. Very probably.

Have to wait and see the next two weeks, could be interesting.

Again though in regards to P&P and his misguided beliefs, if we do take three picks in the ND it'll be because we WANT TO not because we need to.

 

[eldorado]

If we do delist (by consent) and rookie someone like Gunston to leave a third spot open I

We're at out max right now. 40 senior and Cat A players. That leaves only two spots

Delisting Gunston to take 3 in the draft means there are no rookie spaces left to retake him.

We have 2 spaces in the draft, to take us to the max of 42.

 

[Yardie]

Remind me?
Please, take your moral championing elsewhere

Professional sporting environments are tough places

Josh doesn't need his dad on a forum talking about how angry they are
They can be as angry as they want, they may have a right to be

Don't put it here

Burns any chance of being picked up

Given the feedback you've been given on this one, and how other posters have responded to the situation, it's probably time for you to take a breath and reflect on how you come across.

 

[MazHawk]

We're at out max right now. 40 senior and Cat A players. That leaves only two spots

Delisting Gunston to take 3 in the draft means there are no rookie spaces left to retake him.

We have 2 spaces in the draft, to take us to the max of 42.

The max is 44. We have 36 Primary & 4 rookies + one CatB (JUH). That means we currently have two primary & one rookie spot open. We could delist & rookie to free up another Primary

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Given the feedback you've been given on this one, and how other posters have responded to the situation, it's probably time for you to take a breath and reflect on how you come across.

Thanks

 

[Scrads]

The max is 44. We have 36 Primary & 4 rookies + one CatB (JUH). That means we currently have two primary & one rookie spot open. We could delist & rookie to free up another Primary

The max is 42 across the Senior and Cat A rookie lists, though. You can only get to the 44 by filling out with Cat Bs beyond that.

So moving someone from the senior to the rookie list doesn't actually free up room for any additional players.

 

[MazHawk]

The max is 42 across the Senior and Cat A rookie lists, though. You can only get to the 44 by filling out with Cat Bs beyond that.

So moving someone from the senior to the rookie list doesn't actually free up room for any additional players.

No I think the max is 44 throughout Primary and CatA&B.

"List sizes for 2023 are set at 36 to 38 primary listed players, four to six Category A rookies and up to two Category B rookies, with a maximum of 44 players overall"
I haven't found an article for 2024/2025 so assuming that's current.