List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management for 2025

[Scrads]

Usually do one of these before the trade period but was caught-up with other stuff this year so here is my post-trade period update! This is what I have at the moment. As you can see, firstly the list is STACKED in terms of talent (which we already knew) but is also pretty close to being completely full as it is. If what I have is correct, then we have 36 primary list, 4 Cat A and 1 Cat B locked in for next year which leaves us with limited options in terms of drafting next month and SSP/MSD in 2025.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are likely to delist-then-rookie one or both of Gunston and/or Breust for flexibility. Regardless, we can only intake a max of 2 players to primary/Cat A list at the moment plus the option of another Cat B player if we want (which I suspect we will re-sign Bennetts with).

As usual, if you spot any mistakes then please let me know

 

[eldorado]

Not really, Blancks surgery was just a complete **** up.

From reports, the recovery and complications are about as bad as you'd get.

There is a chance I'm overstating things, but he has certainly been 'opened-up' again numerous times. It doesn't bode well.

 

[theiaofseed]

From reports, the recovery and complications are about as bad as you'd get.

There is a chance I'm overstating things, but he has certainly been 'opened-up' again numerous times. It doesn't bode well.

Makes it much more likely the graft will fail, must be incredibly frustrating.

 

[Brant]

Not really, Blancks surgery was just a complete **** up.

Was it the surgery that went bad?
I thought it was multiple infections that followed, requiring further procedures?

 

[I wanna pash Nash]

Was it the surgery that went bad?
I thought it was multiple infections that followed, requiring further procedures?

I don't know specifics but it sounds like he's had a few infections. They can range from needing a few ABs to being catastrophic to the process. If they get in the knee deep enough they stop the graft from taking and essentially make the surgery redundant. Plus it will keep his pain levels high and not allow him to complete any meaningful rehab.

If he's still limping now as a poster above suggested you'd have to say he's probably mid season at best for next year unless there is a dramatic turn around.

I'm unaware of how many ops he's had, and the nature of them (clean out or revision). But it certainly sounds like he's needed more than one trip to the table. Heartbreaking for James. I saw him professionally late last year and he was in ripping nick and really ready to explode.

 

[Turly]

No

Ahhhhhh yes, I believe it’s a poster that spends most of their time on Bay 13? Can’t remember the name though.

Think he may have previously gone by Hodgepodge or something similar.

 

[ahhhhhh]

Ahhhhhh yes, I believe it’s a poster that spends most of their time on Bay 13? Can’t remember the name though.

Think he may have previously gone by Hodgepodge or something similar.

Not me.

 

[Zurs]

Was it the surgery that went bad?
I thought it was multiple infections that followed, requiring further procedures?

I have heard from a player he has had two infections associated with the surgery, not good, most likely wont be able to play next year

 

[Sixpence]

Get him out of the #36 guernsey and those infections will clear right up!

 

[hawkinoz]

I have heard from a player he has had two infections associated with the surgery, not good, most likely wont be able to play next year

That is so unlucky for James and hope he recovers.

From a list management perspective, would it not make sense to put him on LTI so we have a SSP spot open. Maybe even delist, pay out his contract with promise to relist once he is back to good health but not sure if his health care cost would still be covered in case of delist. So maybe better to go the LTI route.

 

[Roddy]

I really do wonder if we're going to seriously hunt a key forward this trade period. Our KPF position is not terrible, but not great.

Dear is going to be a star, we can be reasonably assured of that.
Lewis could be a star but is monumentally injury prone, and may not be back 'til mid-season next year.
Chol was fantastic during the H&A, exceeded my expectations, but was found wanting a little in finals when the whips were cracking.
Scaife looks a strong prospect but is very young and untested. Could go either way.
Gunners has one year left.
Ramma, as a ruck/forward: obviously the jury is still way, way out on him.
Who else is there?

I think we need to go hunting....

 

[number23]

Sorry if someone has asked this before but when are the Hawthorn exit interviews? We only one retirement - Chad - and two delistings so far - Stephens and Tucker - and we need to clear 4 more spots as I understand it.

 

[Sixpence]

Sorry if someone has asked this before but when are the Hawthorn exit interviews? We only one retirement - Chad - and two delistings so far - Stephens and Tucker - and we need to clear 4 more spots as I understand it.

Pretty sure they're already done. Any further delistings will probably be done after trade period.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Sorry if someone has asked this before but when are the Hawthorn exit interviews? We only one retirement - Chad - and two delistings so far - Stephens and Tucker - and we need to clear 4 more spots as I understand it.

I expect the rest of our delistings are conditional on other player movements, medicals, etc.

For example, if we somehow don't land Barass and Battle during trade/FA period, then DGB likely gets another year.

However, if we land both, AND can convince Frost to stay, then DGB likely becomes surplus to needs and a DFA.

We're not going to sign him up before the other pieces are known.

In the meantime, we have probably agreed to terms for renewal, and are encouraging he and his management to shop around, hoping we can perhaps generate a half-eaten snickers bar in return.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Battle is done there is nothing to do here apart from sign the paperwork

 

[Atch]

Crap about blank, hopefully frost does stay. On all the YouTube blogs he looks like he's happy at Hawthorn and is mates with all the players.

 

[Sturty]

Battle is done there is nothing to do here apart from sign the paperwork

Wen photo in front of Kennedy statue in Jersey?

 

[TylerDurden]

Wen photo in front of Kennedy statue in Jersey?

Free agency opens on Oct 4th - Friday week.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Wen photo in front of Kennedy statue in Jersey?

Yeah but he is unrestricted so assume that he already has a polo and the only reason there is no photo yet is because we are not in the free agency period. So technically he is still contracted to St Kilda.

 

[TylerDurden]

Yeah but he is unrestricted so assume that he already has a polo and the only reason there is no photo yet is because we are not in the free agency period. So technically he is still contracted to St Kilda.

Correct. He's signed a contract with us, but paperwork can't be fully lodged with the AFL until Oct 4th - when it will officially announced via the media.

 

[Bugs1977]

Correct. He's signed a contract with us, but paperwork can't be fully lodged with the AFL until Oct 4th - when it will officially announced via the media.

So does that mean secret herbs and spices loading OR it's just St.Kilda so fook'em

 

[Leather Poisoning]

I'm not too concerned with what compo pick st kilda get, but I would find it a bit funny if it wasn't band 1

 

[Slainte]

I really do wonder if we're going to seriously hunt a key forward this trade period. Our KPF position is not terrible, but not great.

Dear is going to be a star, we can be reasonably assured of that.
Lewis could be a star but is monumentally injury prone, and may not be back 'til mid-season next year.
Chol was fantastic during the H&A, exceeded my expectations, but was found wanting a little in finals when the whips were cracking.
Scaife looks a strong prospect but is very young and untested. Could go either way.
Gunners has one year left.
Ramma, as a ruck/forward: obviously the jury is still way, way out on him.
Who else is there?

I think we need to go hunting....Weddle

I am sure we will be on the lookout, but they don't grow on trees. The back half is stacked so we have the option to play Sicily, Weddle or even Scrimshaw as forwards. We will also be paying close attention to McCabe's development. I am not too fussed about Chol's modest finals returns. He will be fine with a bit more support.

 

[Dewnior]

Get him out of the #36 guernsey and those infections will clear right up!

threesixpio has a lot to answer for here. He's gotten fat off Moorey's successes and has really dropped the ball with this one

 

[grumbleguts]

I'm not too concerned with what compo pick st kilda get, but I would find it a bit funny if it wasn't band 1

Every compo pick should be based on and relative to Franklin being worth pick 19.

 

[bigmaxi]

FWIW, this is from the Age today. Can’t wait too see the line up round one, the revelling of Sam’s flag plan.

“Mitchell, Brett Ratten

Brett Ratten

Age

53

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

and defensive coach Kade Simpson

6

Kade Simpson

Age

40

Ht

183cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

7.3

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

409.0

5star

D

16.3

4star

K

11.9

5star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

0.8

1star

MG

258.6

4star

D

2.0

1star

K

1.2

1star

HB

0.8

1star

M

0.8

1star

T

1.6

4star

told Frost in his exit meeting last week that he was still part of their 2025 plans despite Battle and Barrass coming in. Defenders Blake Hardwick

15

Blake Hardwick

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

264.7

4star

D

13.8

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.7

3star

MG

264.7

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

4star

and James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

can play at both ends of the ground, while rising star Josh Weddle is set to spend more time on a wing.”