Hawthorn’s 2019 Trade/FA - Targets/Incoming players discussion only

[Ned Ryerson]

Vanders is a legitimate entrepreneur of the highest order, not only him but guys like Stephen Lawrence, Daniel Elstone, Chris Langford, Michael Osbourne and Paul Salmon are all ex players who have leveraged club contacts and networks in order to become extremely successful in business.

Was just taking the piss - Vanders is a high caliber guy and I am glad he is still so highly involved in the club.

 

[Bugs1977]

Vanders is a legitimate entrepreneur of the highest order, not only him but guys like Stephen Lawrence, Daniel Elstone, Chris Langford, Michael Osbourne and Paul Salmon are all ex players who have leveraged club contacts and networks in order to become extremely successful in business.

You forgot about Chris Mew who owns his own building empire. He's gone on to sell multiple houses that he's made a fortune from. Players that come to Hawthorn and finish there careers there almost always set themselves up for life and I guarantee you that while clubs like Carlton roll out the fancy / shiny toys we'd be getting in guys like Mew, Vanders, Lawrence etc to tell guys like Coniglio their own personal stories of wealth. You come into the HFC as a boy and you leave as a man.

Hawthorn great Chris Mew sells McCrae house after siren - realestate.com.au

Hawthorn legend Chris Mew has kicked his first auction goal after the siren. Despite just a single bid for his McCrae home he still ended up sharing a few celebratory drinks with a buyer.

www.realestate.com.au

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Why is Harley Bennell being discussed in this thread?

Did the rule of this thread change? I thought it was only to be FA players who we're linked to in the meeja or other sources?

Has he been linked to us anywhere or it’s just a hypothetical discussion...

We have a poster who says that we have been monitoring his situation.

 

[Hawks851]

Was just taking the piss - Vanders is a high caliber guy and I am glad he is still so highly involved in the club.

was in the rooms on saturday

 

[dermott]

You are no fun

The recruiters are no fun.

 

[threesixpio]

The recruiters are no fun.

Mitchell
Lewis

 

[Brishawk]

Hah, surely it's got to be more that a tweet saying a player has been released from their contract though?

I didn’t say something as solid as a tweet. Big footy is a social media platform

 

[OnceKicked50]

Looking at Bennell’s issues and backing ourselves in to get the best out of him would be little different to looking at Scully’s ankle and backing our team in to get him right.

He’s either salvageable or he is not.

We either see a player that our medicos/culture/leadership can harness the best of, or we don’t.

We would no doubt be asking the question.

Serious question, is our leadership currently capable of this? If Rough moves on, I think Burgoyne will go again, the only other name that really jumps out is O'Meara, but he is still 25 yeah? McEvoy is a warrior on field, but appears more introverted off. I don't know that for sure but.

Point is, in many games this year we have all questioned a lack of leadership. This isn't natural for Bruest, Gunton and sadly it seems Stratton.

I'm not sold we have the leaders we used to have, or are ready to in O'Meara, to take on a Bennell.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Serious question, is our leadership currently capable of this? If Rough moves on, I think Burgoyne will go again, the only other name that really jumps out is O'Meara, but he is still 25 yeah? McEvoy is a warrior on field, but appears more introverted off. I don't know that for sure but.

Point is, in many games this year we have all questioned a lack of leadership. This isn't natural for Bruest, Gunton and sadly it seems Stratton.

I'm not sold we have the leaders we used to that, or are ready to in O'Meara, to take on a Bennell.

I think O'Meara and Mitchell would be great role models for a troubled young player. Thing is Bennell isn't young.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

Vanders is a legitimate entrepreneur of the highest order, not only him but guys like Stephen Lawrence, Daniel Elstone, Chris Langford, Michael Osbourne and Paul Salmon are all ex players who have leveraged club contacts and networks in order to become extremely successful in business.

Really nice guy is Vanders. Entrepreneur of the highest order though...please.

 

[OnceKicked50]

I think O'Meara and Mitchell would be great role models for a troubled young player. Thing is Bennell isn't young.

Possibly. But they are still young, Mitchell is working back from injury too. It's a significant challenge for two young blokes that are yet to lead in their own right.

It's a good point you make with Bennell's age too. It highlights our vaccum in leadership around that 28 year old mark hey.

 

[HeHateMe]

I was told a story recently about off field issues.

There is an AFL player doing well at the moment who had off field issues that stoped clubs from drafting him.

His off field issues were: Both Parents had died, and he was struggling with life as a late teen with no Parents. He was begging clubs to draft him as he saw that as his only way to have a decent life and not be homeless.

Glad a club finally gave this kid a chance.

 

[tige19]

Really nice guy is Vanders. Entrepreneur of the highest order though...please.

Ok, sorry.. Do tell us your expertise?

Vanders is head of the LCW Group isn’t he? Don’t they produce multiple wines and doing so quite successfully? Wine industry is a money spinner if you get it right, but like most industries it’s difficult to get a real handle on. I’d suggest he has done extremely well, in fact anyone jumping head first into business and doing well deserve a huge amount of credit.

 

[DannyJ]

I'm all for getting Bennell. I was all for getting Garlett to. Not much to lose and all to gain

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[HolyRioli]

I'm all for getting Bennell. I was all for getting Garlett to. Not much to lose and all to gain

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I was all for Dayle Garlett too - our list was chock full of talent so we could afford to take the risk of the draft pick.

As it turns out, the opportunity cost was access to one of the following:
Jake Kolodjashnij, Tom Barrass, Aliir Aliir, Riley Knight, Ben Brown, Darcy Byrne-Jones, Orazio Fantasia

These were the players selected between Garlett and Sicily (amongst others, who didn't make it). So we rolled the dice and it didn't pay off - you could argue that about most draft picks.

In this case - Bennell wouldn't even cost us draft position, so the opportunity cost is less. But all evidence thus far points to it's likely failure (for whatever reason, injury or other)

 

[MasterSamurai]

Why are Fremantle letting go of a highly talented footballer?

 

[Hodginator]

Steveo competing with Sandra Sully for the late news?

 

[TylerDurden]

Patton. Had mail it was done 12 months ago. Lock it.

 

[HawksILove]

Great, Can't wait until I see Patton in the Brown and Gold

Patton. Had mail it was done 12 months ago. Lock it.

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[TheExtractorFactor]

Why are Fremantle letting go of a highly talented footballer?

Because he never actually plays football.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

Because he never actually plays football.

Pretty simple really.

 

[triple treat]

So you reckon his off-field issues could be reasonably managed?

How about his calf issues triple treat ? What do you hear of them? Would 4+ years of repeat damage have caused too much scarring etc. to get back to any type of match readiness?

*for the record, I like the idea of chasing him & IMO, fixing his body is the important part as I reckon the off-field stuff is manageable

I couldn’t tell you anything about his calves, I don’t know him personally just know someone that does and from what he tells me, He’s a decent guy who’s working really hard to get himself back to playing footy again at the top level. If the club is interested I’m sure they will give the calves a thorough going over.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

Would people on here continue to pay training fees for a horse that beat Winx in a barrier trial four years ago but to this day still hasn't raced?

 

[MC_9]

Patton and Cogs would be one hell of a off season.

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[HODGEYROAD]

Be interesting to see who's better next season, Patton or Mitchell Lewis.