News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wrong. Hawks did what they had to do by the rules of the AFL.

Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.

I will pin this post, as it seems to be a constant query.

 

[Mercy Seat]

"Journalism"
They were leaked the report

Report was never leaked until the abc story had already happened. ABC were tipped off very early on (plenty of speculation on who it was) and reportedly did their investigation whilst the hawthorn review was taking place.

 

[Rhayader]

"Journalism"
They were leaked the report

Were they? You should read that original ABC story again.

Anyway, we’ve been over this 100 times in this thread. It’s copium.

Either way, getting leaks IS journalism. You think Laurie Oakes got the whole federal budget given directly to him in the 80s by pure luck? It’s reputation, contacts and conversations.

 

[hawkmang]

"Journalism"
They were leaked the report

For investigative journalists leaks and info gleaned from conversations/contacts ARE journalism

 

[LuckyHawk]

Have not listen to this but will certainly do.
Does Cyril actually say that Clarko and Fages say and do things that would be seen as racist?

Did l see Fages and Charlie Cameron in a long emotional hug after the prelim win? Hardly the action of a racist and the accusations certainly didn't seem to worry Charlie.

 

[Alite]

The constitution is not a document designed to tell our history. It is our highest legal document and should be blind to skin colour, eye colour, and our place of birth.

Getting rid of Section 25… that should happen. Everyone would agree.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Were they? You should read that original ABC story again.

Anyway, we’ve been over this 100 times in this thread. It’s copium.

Either way, getting leaks IS journalism. You think Laurie Oakes got the whole federal budget given directly to him in the 80s by pure luck? It’s reputation, contacts and conversations.

And trust. This age of toxic cut and run journalism, people referring to sources and tried and true conduits to real information in the pejorative sense as 'leakers' etc., all comes from the same place: ignorance of the way media was designed to work.

I could hurl every time I hear conspiratorial nonsense and claims that legacy media is controlled by corporations etc.

It's a great soundbite, and there's elements of truth to it, but it otherwise shows absolutely zero understanding that there's media empires with different philosophies in every direction competing with each other for eyes on the page or TV screen. Within those empires you get journalists competing with each other to find the best stories.

The goal is ultimately breaking real news no matter where it comes from (with the exception of cable news channels, who are about as reliable as anyone you're paying to tell you what you want to hear).

 

[Yardie]

The constitution is not a document designed to tell our history. It is our highest legal document and should be blind to skin colour, eye colour, and our place of birth.

Getting rid of Section 25… that should happen. Everyone would agree.

Agree. There have been, and still are, sections of the Constitution that need to be removed.

 

[Rhayader]

Hawks face massive financial settlement to Clarkson

Hawthorn are facing a significant financial settlement with Alastair Clarkson, while he and his former football boss Chris Fagan also want public apologies from the club over the impact of the cultural safety review on their professional and private lives.

www.theage.com.au

 

[peetoo]

Wouldn’t there need to be proof of ‘loss’. Clarko is probably earning more now than at the Hawks

Excuse my Chicago lawyer logic

 

[hawk65]

Hawks face massive financial settlement to Clarkson

Hawthorn are facing a significant financial settlement with Alastair Clarkson, while he and his former football boss Chris Fagan also want public apologies from the club over the impact of the cultural safety review on their professional and private lives.

www.theage.com.au

Can someone please post the article

 

[DogDaySonny]

Can someone please post the article

Hawks face massive financial settlement to Clarkson

Hawthorn are facing a significant financial settlement with Alastair Clarkson, while he and his former football boss Chris Fagan also want public apologies from the club over the impact of the cultural safety review on their professional and private lives.

web.archive.org

 

[HedgeFund]

Hawks face massive financial settlement to Clarkson

Hawthorn are facing a significant financial settlement with Alastair Clarkson, while he and his former football boss Chris Fagan also want public apologies from the club over the impact of the cultural safety review on their professional and private lives.

www.theage.com.au

Thanks Caro - you’ve been so consistent on this issue from the get go.

Wouldn’t believe a single thing you wrote about this now.

 

[Rob R]

Wouldn’t there need to be proof of ‘loss’. Clarko is probably earning more now than at the Hawks

Excuse my Chicago lawyer logic

Have to prove damage (pretty easy for Clarko and Fagan) but the hard part is causation unless they can show Hawthorn actually leaked the report.

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[DogDaySonny]

As with Wilson during clarkson’s departure, she’s printing a press release from his agent.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[TylerDurden]

Clarko with his hand out again. The gift that keeps on giving.

 

[CD Xbow]

'Two other people close to the investigation, who did not want to be quoted due to the sensitivity of the negotiation, said Hawthorn’s willingness to financially compensate their former senior football staffers and Indigenous families would mitigate any potential financial penalty imposed upon the club over its handling of the cultural safety review.'

So the AFL appear to have said pay off everyone involved, both those accused of racism in the report and those doing the accusing and we won't punish you. It all seems very odd.

 

[Linda CRS]

Thanks Caro - you’ve been so consistent on this issue from the get go.

Wouldn’t believe a single thing you wrote about this now.

Given how tight she is with Clarko/Fagan manager I’d believe that’s what they’re chasing, deliberate leaked to her. Getting it might be another thing.

 

[brad sue well]

Oh yes, JHF left because of this!

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Can we sue Clarko for his neglect of our playing list in his final years at the club?

 

[TylerDurden]

Given how tight she is with Clarko/Fagan manager I’d believe that’s what they’re chasing, deliberate leaked to her. Getting it might be another thing.

He doesn't miss Clarko. When it comes to a payout.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Hawks caught between to the two parties lead by Clarkson and Rioli.

Rioli and co made there allegations against Clarkson, Fagan and Co.

Yet the Hawks get burned being stuck in the middle and burnt by Clarko after we all ready paid him out.

The AFL didn’t do a full investigation they withdrew as the aboriginals involved indicated they want to go via official channels.

Piss off Clarko!

 

[brad sue well]

He doesn't miss Clarko. When it comes to a payout.

Victim.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

Clarko with his hand out again lol

Really has that Shinbeggars spirit going through him.

Why would we have to pay him out because someone not at Hawthorn leaked a report about his alleged conduct?

 

[Billyc]

This just smacks of the AFL wanting this gone and pressuring Hawthorn to pay everyone on both sides of the dispute to make that happen. The AFL will think that looks cleaner for them than fining Hawthorn a lot and then making the payouts themselves. This way they can pretend their own hands are completely clean