NO TROLLS Hawthorn Racism Review - Sensitive issues discussed. Part 3

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Link to Hawthorn Statement. - Link to ABC Sports article. - Leaked Report

Process Plan - https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...erms-of-Reference-and-Process-Plan-FINAL-.pdf

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[Back One Out]

They are still 'warring parties' as you quoted. If they don't admit guilt and apologise it will go to the federal court.

The coaches categorically deny the accusations... so the mediation process probably won't go anywhere if we're to believe the "fighting words" from Cyril. It doesn't sound like there's room for any mediation or conciliation.

But the thing is, apart from the media and Big Footy ghouls, I don't think anyone really wants this to go to court and have their dirty linen aired. My guess is the players will probably accept a settlement from Hawthorn.

 

[yodellinhank]

The coaches categorically deny the accusations... so the mediation process probably won't go anywhere if we're to believe the "fighting words" from Cyril. It doesn't sound like there's room for any mediation or conciliation.

But the thing is, apart from the media and Big Footy ghouls, I don't think anyone really wants this to go to court and have their dirty linen aired. My guess is the players will probably accept a settlement from Hawthorn.

They haven't categorically denied the accusations. They have said it didn't happen in the manner described

 

[threesixpio]

Cyril Rioli a good shout for the most privileged person to ever exist

Born into a family name that is royalty in Australia, treated as a God in his younger years. Goes to one of the most expensive and exclusive private schools of all time on full scholarship without ever paying a cent, is treated like a God his whole time there as best player on the football team

Wins a premiership his first year in the AFL while having heavyweights like Bruce McVaney become his personal fan club. Quickly becomes the highest paid player at the Hawks. Wins another 3 premierships then retires with a mega 7 figure payout for "racism"

Geez we'd all like to die right now and be reincarnated as Cyril

**** off

 

[threesixpio]

Rioli seems to be appearing in this mediation as the villain for some. Astounding

Most decent Hawthorn supporters just want to make this right. I’m a bit of an optimist generally and I think that this could end in a better place. Cyril has been one of the best things in my life since 2008. Farkn love him

 

[peetoo]

Much as we thirst for information, the more this is kept confidential, the better for all

Except clickbait journos of course

 

[IndiaHawk]

If I am right, Cyril was not part of the Phil Egan reprt. What exactly is the issue he has with Clarkson and Fagan?

 

[4Seasons]

Much as we thirst for information, the more this is kept confidential, the better for all

Except clickbait journos of course

And crusade warriors

 

[pattymalone00]

https://archive.md/betJU

A second extension in conciliation talks has been agreed to in the Hawthorn racism scandal as the stalemate threatens to lead to a Federal Court hearing.​

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It’s believed the issue continues to be Hawthorn’s willingness to accept a bevy of requests asked by the Indigenous families, which includes an apology and an acknowledgment that they suffered pain, hurt and stress when they were at Hawthorn.​

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A source said the wording in a response to claims of historic racist behaviour was also an agenda item for the lawyers of former Hawks staffers Alastair Clarkson, Chris Fagan and Jason Burt.​

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The source said some of the Indigenous players and their partners have been told that the “methodology’’ of how they were treated was not always appropriate.​

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“That word, methodology, did not sit comfortably with them,” the source said.​

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“There’s no reference to an apology.”​

 

[smish]

The club's willingness to apologise or that of Clarkson & Fagan?

 

[Engimal v3]

Free my boy Clarko

 

[JackOutback]

The club's willingness to apologise or that of Clarkson & Fagan?

Clarkson strikes me as the type to never accept he's wrong, so I imagine it's the club.

 

[blackshadow]

Not looking good for Hawthorn.

Looks like big payouts to those who made the accusations and the accused.

Kennett left a nice ticking time bomb with his witch hunt.

 

[Hawks_4478]

Clarkson strikes me as the type to never accept he's wrong, so I imagine it's the club.

Why would Clarkson apologise when he hasn’t been found guilty of doing anything wrong?

 

[010203]

According to Robbo, this is heading to the Federal Courts. Can't say I'm surprised.

https://archive.md/Vicn1

 

[Gavin Excell]

According to Robbo, this is heading to the Federal Courts. Can't say I'm surprised.

https://archive.md/Vicn1

Federal Court isn't a great outcome for all

 

[Engimal v3]

Take em to the cleaners, Clarko

 

[Philhawk]

Not looking good for Hawthorn.

Looks like big payouts to those who made the accusations and the accused.

Kennett left a nice ticking time bomb with his witch hunt.

Think you’re being a bit naive here.

Hawthorn can’t admit to wrong unless Clarkson and others admit they did wrong.

To suggest otherwise is silly.

 

[QuietB]

Federal Court isn't a great outcome for all

It was always inevitable. Clarko was never going to fold.

 

[avignon]

Think you’re being a bit naive here.

Hawthorn can’t admit to wrong unless Clarkson and others admit they did wrong.

To suggest otherwise is silly.

Hawthorn... always the lily white club in the 60's until 70's....staunch last stand WASP club until the end.... so I'm not surprised there were remnants later on.

 

[Joffaboy]

Take em to the cleaners, Clarko

It's not a game with barracking for a side. There are real people on both sides here with real feelings, emotions and their own truth.
He may be Norths coach but what he may or may not have done prior to that does not reflect on the NMFC, its fans or you yourself.
I find the whole situation sad for all involved and wished there had been a resolution.

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[matthew_s]

Think you’re being a bit naive here.

Hawthorn can’t admit to wrong unless Clarkson and others admit they did wrong.

To suggest otherwise is silly.

Why cant Hawthorn admit to any wrong unless the others do?

 

[Philhawk]

Why cant Hawthorn admit to any wrong unless the others do?

Explain to me how that works?

“We apologize for any harm that occurred at our club, even if the people accused of racist and intimidatory behavior do not admit their actions also played a part”

 

[yodellinhank]

It was always inevitable. Clarko was never going to fold.

I hate Clarkson as much as the next bloke, but Fagan's response to this whole thing seems to have been by far the worst.

 

[campbell]

Take em to the cleaners, Clarko

oh my....

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Cyril Rioli a good shout for the most privileged person to ever exist

Born into a family name that is royalty in Australia, treated as a God in his younger years. Goes to one of the most expensive and exclusive private schools of all time on full scholarship without ever paying a cent, is treated like a God his whole time there as best player on the football team

Wins a premiership his first year in the AFL while having heavyweights like Bruce McVaney become his personal fan club. Quickly becomes the highest paid player at the Hawks. Wins another 3 premierships then retires with a mega 7 figure payout for "racism"

Geez we'd all like to die right now and be reincarnated as Cyril

Forgot the fact he won lotto with 3 other teammates too