Hawthorn Reserves/Box Hill historical stats thread

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2017

BH Hawks v 			For			Ag			W / L	By
1 v Footscray (WB)			15.5	95		14.9	93		Won	2
2 v Coburg          			20.8	128		9.8	62		Won	66
3 v Williamstown			13.12	90		8.14	62		Won	28
4 v Geelong (Geel)			14.11	95		8.5	53		Won	42
5 v Richmond (Rich)			18.8	116		13.16	94		Won	22
6 v Collingwood (Coll)			16.6	102		11.10	76		Won	26
7 v Port Melb          			16.12	108		15.18	108		Drawn	0
8 v Nth Ballarat			12.16	88		11.9	75		Won	13
10 v Casey (Melb)			11.7	73		14.15	99		Lost	-26
11 v Nthn Blues (Carl)			11.11	77		6.19	55		Won	22
12 v Williamstown			10.13	73		1716	118		Lost	-45
13 v Nth Ballarat			18.13	121		9.18	72		Won	49
14 v Werribee (Nth)			15.18	108		9.9	63		Won	45
15 v Sandringham (StK)			22.10	142		14.11	95		Won	47
16 v Geelong (Geel)			19.23	137		13.7	85		Won	52
17 v Essendon (Ess)			12.11	83		14.5	89		Lost	-6
18 v Port Melbourne			8.10	58		13.8	86		Lost	-28
19 v Nthn Blues (Carl)			19.13	127		7.8	50		Won	77
QF v Port Melbourne			11.11	77		9.10	64		Won	13
PF v Richmond (Rich)			8.6	54		18.11	119		Lost	-65

A good season unfortunately derailed on the penultimate hurdle, running into a red-hot Richmond side with 20 AFL players, other results conspiring to leave Box Hill finishing 4th (of 14), despite being top 2 for the entire season.

Goalkickers
*Non HFC Listed

Vickery, Tyrone		27
Jones, Chris*		22
Murphy, William*	21	
Stewart, Kade		20
Switkowski, Sam*	19	
Brolic, Anthony*	18	
Moore, Andrew*		15
Willsmore, Dallas	15	
Hanrahan, Oliver	13	
Miles, Teia		12
Fitzpatrick, Jack	10	
Lewis, Mitchell		10
Lane, Nelson*		8
Adduci, Vincent*	7	
Hams, Will*		6
Evans, Nick*		5
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	5	
Schoenmakers, Ryan	4	
Bond, Aaron*		3
Cousins, James		3
Evans, Billy*		3
Henderson, Ricky	3	
Langford, Will		3
Mirra, David*		3
O'Brien, Tim		3
O'Meara, Jaeger		3
Pittonet, Marc		3
Warren, Max*		3
Fisher, Jospeh*		2
Glass, Conor		2
Nash, Conor		2
Whitecross, Brendan	2	
Dimasi, Xavier*		1
Duryea, Taylor		1
Heatherley, Kurt	1	
Hehir, Dale*		1
Kennedy, Ayden*		1
Morrison, Harry		1
O'Donnell, Mitchell*	1	
O'Rourke, Jonathan	1	
Puopolo, Paul		1
Sicily, James		1
Walker, Jordan*		1
Walker, Lachlan*	1	
Williams, Lachlan*	1

Times in Best Players
*Non HFC Listed

Player			In Best	BH BOG
Moore, Andrew*		9	5	
Mirra, David*		8	2	
Whitecross, Brendan	8			
Brolic, Anthony*	6	2		
Heatherley, Kurt	6	1		
Pittonet, Marc		6	1	
Stewart, Kade		6	1	
Warren, Max*		6		
Hams, Will*		5	1	
Miles, Teia		5		
Vickery, Tyrone		5		
Hanrahan, Oliver	4			
Willsmore, Dallas	4			
Cousins, James		3	1	
Fitzpatrick, Jack	3	1		
Jones, Chris*		3		
Morrison, Harry		3	2	
Murphy, William*	3			
O'Donnell, Mitchell*	3	1		
O'Rourke, Jonathan	3			
Switkowski, Sam*	3	1		
Evans, Nick*		2		
Schoenmakers, Ryan	2			
Evans, Billy*		1	1	
Fisher, Joseph*		1		
Gibson, Sam*		1		
Glass, Conor		1		
Henderson, Ricky	1			
Kennedy, Ayden*		1		
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	1			
Lane, Nelson*		1		
Langford, Will		1		
Lewis, Mitchell		1		
Lovell, Kieran		1		
O'Meara, Jaeger		1		
Walker, Jordan*		1		
Walker, Lachlan*	1

 

[mianfei]

Found this from May 9 1962.

View attachment 221399

I've always assumed the remarkable decline of Hawthorn seniors in 1962 was by and large not their own fault but simply due to the rich, well-supported clubs of Essendon, Geelong and Carlton buying so many top players whom Hawthorn had no hope of affording. That the Hawks' reserves team was covered must reflect that even after two losses in three games Hawthorn were expected to rebound later, which apart from their win over Essendon (which for a long time looked like being Essendon's solitary loss for the season) on a very heavy Glenferrie Oval in Round Eight they utterly failed to do.

 

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Found the qtr by qtr scores of HFC's highest ever score, kicked by the 1987 Reserves side in round 7 against Sydney.

HAWTHORN		9.6	19.10	33.18	45.20	(290)			
SYDNEY			2.2	3.6	4.6	6.12	(48)		
Goals:  Lester-Smith 10,  Anderson 6,  Dickson 6,  Morrissey 6,  James 5,  Symonds 3,	
Butler 2, Ellingworth 2, Bennett 1, P.Dear 1,  Ralphsmith 1,  Schwab 1,  Wittman 1.									
Best:  Morrissey,  Lester-Smith,  Dickson,  Condon,  Pritchard,  James.

 

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Found the qtr by qtr scores of HFC's highest ever score, kicked by the 1987 Reserves side in round 7 against Sydney.

HAWTHORN        9.6    19.10    33.18    45.20    (290)           
SYDNEY            2.2    3.6    4.6    6.12    (48)       
Goals:  Lester-Smith 10,  Anderson 6,  Dickson 6,  Morrissey 6,  James 5,  Symonds 3,   
Butler 2, Ellingworth 2, Bennett 1, P.Dear 1,  Ralphsmith 1,  Schwab 1,  Wittman 1.                                   
Best:  Morrissey,  Lester-Smith,  Dickson,  Condon,  Pritchard,  James.

Look at those Hawks names!!!
Hawks kicked 9g 6b 1st q - 10g 4b 2nd q - 14g 2b 3rd q and 12g 2b in the last
and Sydney kicked 2g 6b in last qtr
so in the 3rd q 23 scoring shots between both teams and the final q - total of 22 scoring shots. Unbelievable
Is this what Gill wants in the AFLW???

 

[mianfei]

Found the qtr by qtr scores of HFC's highest ever score, kicked by the 1987 Reserves side in round 7 against Sydney.

HAWTHORN        9.6    19.10    33.18    45.20    (290)           
SYDNEY            2.2    3.6    4.6    6.12    (48)       
Goals:  Lester-Smith 10,  Anderson 6,  Dickson 6,  Morrissey 6,  James 5,  Symonds 3,   
Butler 2, Ellingworth 2, Bennett 1, P.Dear 1,  Ralphsmith 1,  Schwab 1,  Wittman 1.                                   
Best:  Morrissey,  Lester-Smith,  Dickson,  Condon,  Pritchard,  James.

Rod Lester-Smith, who was the chief goalkicker, kicked only 23 goals in his 70 senior games, but did kick six in one game against Melbourne in 1986.

 

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Rod Lester-Smith, who was the chief goalkicker, kicked only 23 goals in his 70 senior games, but did kick six in one game against Melbourne in 1986.

Generally played back pocket, from memory.

 

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1976:
The Hawks Reserves of 1976 got off to a shaky start, losing their first 3 matches. However, somewhere between rounds 5 and 6, two of those losses were over-turned and credited as wins to Hawthorn. So whilst the results after 6 weeks would appear to be 2 wins and 4 losses, the round 6 ladder shows the Hawks as 4 and 2. Hence at the end of the H/A season, the Hawks finished 2nd with a 16 win season despite only winning 14 games. Hopefully the 1976 Footy Records will end up on-line soon as they may have an explanation. None of the online archived newspapers do.

According to page 18 of the Football Record:

1. St. Kilda lost four points in Round 1
2. South Melbourne lost four points in Round 1 (this is relatively well-known as the Swans kicked their highest-ever reserves score)
3. Collingwood lost four points in Round 3

In the Under-19s:

1. Hawthorn lost eight points for Round 1 and Round 3 wins
2. South Melbourne lost four points for their Round 2 wins
   • As with the 1909 VFL seniors, this decided the U19 wooden spoon as Collingwood – who only won 5 games – gained 2 further wins to be two-and-a-half wins ahead of the Swans who received their fourth straight wooden spoon in the Under-19s

 

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According to page 18 of the Football Record:

1. St. Kilda lost four points in Round 1
2. South Melbourne lost four points in Round 1 (this is relatively well-known as the Swans kicked their highest-ever reserves score)
3. Collingwood lost four points in Round 3

In the Under-19s:

1. Hawthorn lost eight points for Round 1 and Round 3 wins
2. South Melbourne lost four points for their Round 2 wins
   • As with the 1909 VFL seniors, this decided the U19 wooden spoon as Collingwood – who only won 5 games – gained 2 further wins to be two-and-a-half wins ahead of the Swans who received their fourth straight wooden spoon in the Under-19s

Yep, check post #156 and #157 of this thread!

You were already all across it.

 

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2018 Premiers!

Box Hill win an unlikely premiership, finishing the H/A season in 6th place after a 12 / 6 season. Having to travel to their opposition's home ground despit finishing higher, Box Hill were literally one second away from elimination that would have seen them finish 8th. Drawling level on the siren and then winning in extra time, Box Hill progressed through the finals eliminating Geelong (straight sets exit) in the Semi before winning the Prelim by a solitary point over Williamstown.

In the Grand Final against Casey, Box Hill trailled by as much as 25 points early in the game, and were still as good as 4 goals behind at various stages of the 3rd quarter. Showing sensational spirit, the Hawks ground their way to the front midway through the last quarter and held on to win by 10 points.

BH Hawks v			For			Ag			W / L	By
1 v Williamstown		14.21	105		9.14	68		Won	37	
2 v Frankston			14.19	103		9.10	64		Won	39
3 v Coburg			24.11	155		12.9	81		Won	74
5 v Sandringham (StK)		18.11	119		8.7	55		Won	64	
6 v Casey (Melb)		11.6	72		16.15	111		Lost	-39	
7 v Nthn Blues (Carl)		14.12	96		8.10	58		Won	38	
8 v North Melb			11.7	73		16.13	109		Lost	-36
9 v Werribee			11.7	73		12.8	80		Lost	-7
11 v Frankston			15.21	111		7.6	48		Won	63
12 v Essendon			7.9	51		911	65		Lost	-14
13 v Richmond			6.12	48		14.11	95		Lost	-47
14 v Footscray (WB)		13.18	96		8.5	53		Won	43	
15 v Port Melbourne		15.20	110		10.7	67		Won	43	
17 v Sandringham (StK)		11.12	78		6.11	47		Won	31	
18 v Collingwood		12.7	79		9.18	72		Won	7	
19 v Werribee			12.9	81		15.5	95		Lost	-14
20 v Casey (Melb)		13.13	91		6.10	46		Won	45	
21 v Geelong			14.9	93		10.12	72		Won	21
QF v Port Melbourne		13.18	96		13.7	85		Won	11	
SF v Geelong			13.12	90		8.13	61		Won	29
PF v Williamstown		13.13	91		13.12	90		Won	1	
GF v Casey (Melb)		10.12	72		8.14	62		Won	10

2018 VFL PREMIERS						
Box Hill	1.1	3.4	7.8	10.12	(72)	
Casey		4.4	5.9	8.11	8.14	(62)
Goals:  D.Moore 3, O.Hanrahan 1,  M.Lewis 1,  K.Lovell 1,  A.Moore 1,  T.O'Brien 1,  J.Ross 1,  D.Willsmore 1.						
Best:  D.Mirra,  D.Moore,  M.Pittonet,  O.Hanrahan,  J.Cousins,  T.O'Brien.						
						
B:  T.Miles,  K.Brand,  W.Hams						
HB:  C.Glass,  T.O'Brien,  B.Whitecross						
C:  D.Willsmore,  A.Moore,  A.Brolic						
HF:  D.Moore,  C.Jones,  K.Lovell						
F:  D.Mirra,  M.Lewis,  M.O'Donnell						
Foll:  M.Pittonet,  O.Hanrahan						
Rv:  J.Cousins						
Int:  J.Ross,  C.Jiath,  B.Kilpatrick,  J.O'Rourke						
23rd:  T.Maloney						
Em:  M.Knoll,  N.Lane,  C.Nash,  J.Worpel

Goalkickers
*Non-AFL Listed

Lewis, Mitchell		39
Hanrahan, Oliver	19	
Murphy, Billy*		17
Moore, Dylan		16
Ross, Jackson		16
Brolic, Anthony*	13	
Schoenmakers, Ryan	13	
Cousins, James		12
Moore, Andrew*		12
Whitecross, Brendan	12	
Nash, Conor		11
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	9	
Lovell, Kieran		8
Jones, Chris*		7
Mirra, David		7
Willsmore, Dallas	7	
Evans, Billy*		6
Worpel, James		6
O'Brien, Tim		5
Boucher, Nathan*	4	
Ceglar, Jonathon	4	
Jiath, Changkuoth	4	
Langford, Will		4
Maloney, Tom*		4
O'Rourke, Jonathan	4	
Pittonet, Marc		4
Adduci, Vincent*	3	
Burt, Harrison*		2
Burton, Ryan		2
Glass, Conor		2
Hams, Will*		2
Howe, Daniel		2
Miles, Teia		2
Doreian, Mackenzie*	1	
Heatherley, Kurt	1	
Jones, Harrison		1
Mackie, Liam*		1
O'Donnell, Mitch*	1	
Walker, Lachlan*	1

Times in Best Players
*Non-AFL Listed

Player			In Best	Our BOG
Cousins, James		12	5	
Moore, Andrew*		12	3	
Mirra, David		11	2	
Pittonet, Marc		9	1	
Lewis, Mitchell		7		
Whitecross, Brendan	7			
Hams, Will*		5	2	
Hanrahan, Oliver	5			
Miles, Teia		5	1	
O'Donnell, Mitch*	5	2		
Schoenmakers, Ryan	5			
Moore, Dylan		4		
Glass, Conor		3	1	
Jones, Harrison		3		
Lovell, Kieran		3		
Nash, Conor		3	1	
O'Brien, Tim		3		
O'Rourke, Jonathan	3			
Ceglar, Jonathon	2			
Duryea, Taylor		2	1	
Evans, Billy*		2		
Evans, Nick*		2		
Jiath, Changkuoth	2			
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	2			
Ross, Jackson		2		
Worpel, James		2	2	
Boucher, Nathan*	1			
Brand, Kaiden		1		
Brolic, Anthony*	1			
Burton, Ryan		1		
Heatherley, Kurt	1			
Howe, Daniel		1	1	
Jones, Chris*		1		
Knoll, Michael*		1		
Langford, Will		1		
Mackie, Liam*		1		
Murphy, Bily*		1

 

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Been trying to compile this list for a while... Almost got it all done.

Coaches of Hawthorn's Second 18 / Reserves / Box Hill

1925    Elliman, Dave
1926    Carbarns, Les
1927    Carbarns, Les
1928    Carbarns, Les
1929    Carbarns, Les
1930    Carbarns, Les
1931    Carbarns, Les
1932    Keary, Pat
1933    Utting, Ern
1934    Utting, Ern
1935    Utting, Ern
1936    Stewart, Stuart
1937    Stewart, Stuart
1938    Stewart, Stuart
1939    McAlpine, Ivan
1940    Byrne, Tom
1941    Murphy, Leo*
1943    Utting, Ern
1944    Hurley, Alf
1945    Hurley, Alf
1946    - Unknown -
1947    Carmody, Jack
1948    Carmody, Jack
1949    Carmody, Jack
1950    Hale, Jack
1951    Hale, Jack
1952    Edmonds, Horace S.
1953    Edmonds, Horace S.
1954    Edmonds, Horace S.
1955    Edmonds, Horace S.
1956    Edmonds, Horace S.
1957    Edmonds, Horace S.
1958    Edmonds, Horace S.
1959    Edmonds, Horace S.
1960    Edmonds, Horace S.
1961    O'Brien, Phil
1962    O'Brien, Phil
1963    Winneke, John
1964    McArthur, John
1965    O'Donohue, Peter
1966    Considine, Maurice
1967    Considine, Maurice
1968    Considine, Maurice
1969    Considine, Maurice
1970    Considine, Maurice
1971    Considine, Maurice
1972    Simmonds, Roy
1973    Simmonds, Roy
1974    Parkin, David
1975    O'Mahony, John
1976    Parkin, David
1977    O'Mahony, John
1978    O'Mahony, John
1979    Smith, Ross
1980    Meagher, Des
1981    Meagher, Des
1982    Meagher, Des
1983    Meagher, Des
1984    Meagher, Des
1985    Meagher, Des
1986    Meagher, Des
1987    Meagher, Des
1988    Meagher, Des
1989    Meagher, Des
1990    Meagher, Des
1991    Meagher, Des
1992    Meagher, Des
1993    Meagher, Des
1994    Rowlings, Barry
1995    Rowlings, Barry
1996    German, Peter
1997    German, Peter
1998    German, Peter
1999    German, Peter
2000    McDonald, Donald
2001    McDonald, Donald
2002    McDonald, Donald
2003    Liberatore, Tony
2004    Collins, Andrew
2005    Collins, Andrew
2006    Christensen, Damien
2007    Christensen, Damien
2008    Mitchell, Barry
2009    Bolton, Brendan
2010    Bolton, Brendan
2011    Carroll, Damian
2012    Carroll, Damian
2013    Carroll, Damian
2014    Bello, Marco
2015    Bello, Marco
2016    Bello, Marco
2017    Newman, Chris
2018    Newman, Chris
2019    Bailey, Max

1946 the only missing one. Also 1941 is 90% likely but not 100% confirmed.

 

[mianfei]

Been trying to compile this list for a while... Almost got it all done.

Coaches of Hawthorn's Second 18 / Reserves / Box Hill

1925    Elliman, Dave
1926    Carbarns, Les
1927    Carbarns, Les
1928    Carbarns, Les
1929    Carbarns, Les
1930    Carbarns, Les
1931    Carbarns, Les
1932    Keary, Pat
1933    Utting, Ern
1934    Utting, Ern
1935    Utting, Ern
1936    Stewart, Stuart
1937    Stewart, Stuart
1938    Stewart, Stuart
1939    McAlpine, Ivan
1940    Byrne, Tom
1941    Murphy, Leo*
1943    Utting, Ern
1944    Hurley, Alf
1945    Hurley, Alf
1946    - Unknown -
1947    Carmody, Jack
1948    Carmody, Jack
1949    Carmody, Jack
1950    Hale, Jack
1951    Hale, Jack
1952    Edmonds, Horace S.
1953    Edmonds, Horace S.
1954    Edmonds, Horace S.
1955    Edmonds, Horace S.
1956    Edmonds, Horace S.
1957    Edmonds, Horace S.
1958    Edmonds, Horace S.
1959    Edmonds, Horace S.
1960    Edmonds, Horace S.
1961    O'Brien, Phil
1962    O'Brien, Phil
1963    Winneke, John
1964    McArthur, John
1965    O'Donohue, Peter
1966    Considine, Maurice
1967    Considine, Maurice
1968    Considine, Maurice
1969    Considine, Maurice
1970    Considine, Maurice
1971    Considine, Maurice
1972    Simmonds, Roy
1973    Simmonds, Roy
1974    Parkin, David
1975    O'Mahony, John
1976    Parkin, David
1977    O'Mahony, John
1978    O'Mahony, John
1979    Smith, Ross
1980    Meagher, Des
1981    Meagher, Des
1982    Meagher, Des
1983    Meagher, Des
1984    Meagher, Des
1985    Meagher, Des
1986    Meagher, Des
1987    Meagher, Des
1988    Meagher, Des
1989    Meagher, Des
1990    Meagher, Des
1991    Meagher, Des
1992    Meagher, Des
1993    Meagher, Des
1994    Rowlings, Barry
1995    Rowlings, Barry
1996    German, Peter
1997    German, Peter
1998    German, Peter
1999    German, Peter
2000    McDonald, Donald
2001    McDonald, Donald
2002    McDonald, Donald
2003    Liberatore, Tony
2004    Collins, Andrew
2005    Collins, Andrew
2006    Christensen, Damien
2007    Christensen, Damien
2008    Mitchell, Barry
2009    Bolton, Brendan
2010    Bolton, Brendan
2011    Carroll, Damian
2012    Carroll, Damian
2013    Carroll, Damian
2014    Bello, Marco
2015    Bello, Marco
2016    Bello, Marco
2017    Newman, Chris
2018    Newman, Chris
2019    Bailey, Max

1946 the only missing one. Also 1941 is 90% likely but not 100% confirmed.

Interesting and valuable list.

It’s rather strange that one does not hear that Jack Hale – Hawthorn’s first senior coach to reach the finals – was reserves coach in 1950 and 1951, although it was more common then for a reserves coach to move up to senior level than it is today.

Would a list of Hawthorn Under-19s coaches between 1946 and 1991 be possible? I imagine many of them will be much lesser-known names than the Reserves coaches you have just listed, especially as the Hawk Under-19s did not make the finals and had only three seasons with more wins that losses between 1946 and 1968.

 

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Would a list of Hawthorn Under-19s coaches between 1946 and 1991 be possible?

Pretty much not a hope in hell.

Russell Greene was coach in 1991. Could probably get the years we made finals, but otherwise I'd say it'd be next to impossible to get them all.

The Thirds/U19s were run as a completely separate entity to HFC for a good deal of the early years (as were the Seconds until WW2) so official records are very hard to come by. Nearly all the early 2nds coaches were Captain-Coach, not sure that would be the case with the younger Thirds sides.

 

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Not sure if this is the right place to post this but was wondering why this board has not been updated to;

Box Hill Hawks
VFL Premiers 2018

 

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2019:

BH Hawks v	Score For	Score Ag	Won/Lost	By
1 v Casey (Melb)	15.14 104	4.18 42	Won	62​
2 v Sandringham (StK)	16.4 100	8.11 59	Won	41​
3 v Port Melbourne	8.17 65	12.17 89	Lost	-24​
4 v Coburg	16.12 108	8.9 57	Won	51​
6 v Footscray (WB)	12.12 84	12.12 84	Drawn	0​
7 v Richmond (Rich)	11.4 70	11.12 78	Lost	-8​
8 v Collingwood (Coll)	9.11 65	12.7 79	Lost	-14​
9 v Williamstown	10.14 74	8.5 53	Won	21​
11 v Essendon (Ess)	9.7 61	10.11 71	Lost	-10​
12 v Sandringham (StK)	12.11 83	6.10 46	Won	37​
13 v Casey (Melb)	7.8 50	12.12 84	Lost	-34​
14 v Geelong (Geel)	13.7 85	11.9 75	Won	10​
15 v Frankston	14.18 102	13.6 84	Won	18​
16 v Richmond (Rich)	12.8 80	14.10 94	Lost	-14​
18 v North Melb (Nth)	10.13 73	11.9 75	Lost	-2​
19 v Werribee	7.9 51	11.10 76	Lost	-25​
20 v Nthn Blues (Carl)	10.22 82	8.17 65	Won	17​
21 v Collingwood (Coll)	11.10 76	7.15 57	Won	19​
EF v Werribee	5.10 40	12.9 81	Lost	-41​

A frustrating season where it seemed any gains were quickly lost. After a strong opening, the year became a struggle to back up last season's great finish. Clinging to a final 8 spot for much of the year, Box Hill lost their elimination final to finish 8th of the 15 sides.

Goalkickers:
*Non AFL Listed

Ross, Jackson	35​
Walker, Mathew	23​
Miles, Teia	13​
Boucher, Nathan*	10​
Lewis, Mitchell	9​
Moore, Dylan	9​
Roughead, Jarryd	9​
Hanrahan, Oliver	8​
Mullenger-McHugh, Nathan*	8​
Golds, Will	7​
Jones, Harrison	7​
Moore, Andrew*	7​
Adduci, Vincent*	6​
Meadows, Luke*	6​
Koschitzke, Jacob	5​
Cousins, James	4​
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	4​
Minchington, Darren	4​
Pittonet, Marc	4​
Morrison, Harry	3​
Schoenmakers, Ryan	3​
Walker, Lachlan*	3​
Brand, Kaiden	2​
Ceglar, Jonathon	2​
Doreian, Mackenzie*	2​
Mascitti, Damian*	2​
Mirra, David	2​
Nash, Conor	2​
O'Brien, Tim	2​
Byrne, Connor*	1​
Glass, Conor	1​
Howe, Daniel	1​
Mackie, Liam*	1​
Maloney, Tom*	1​
Nanscawen, Jai*	1​

Times named in Best Players:
*Non AFL Listed

Player:	Rec'd	Our BOG
Mirra, David	11
Miles, Teia	9	1
Moore, Andrew*	8	1
Jones, Harrison	7
Brand, Kaiden	6	2
Cousins, James	6	3
Mascitti, Damian*	6	1
Meadows, Luke*	5	1
Morrison, Harry	5	1
Pittonet, Marc	5	3
Ross, Jackson	5
Roughead, Jarryd	5	1
Glass, Conor	3
Hanrahan, Oliver	3
Jiath, Changkuoth	3	1
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	3	1
Lewis, Mitchell	3	1
Walker, Mathew	3	1
Ceglar, Jonathon	2	1
Maloney, Tom*	2
O'Brien, Tim	2
Schoenmakers, Ryan	2
Birchall, Grant	1
Boucher, Nathan*	1
Greaves, Damon	1
Horner, Stuart*	1
Howe, Daniel	1
Koschitzke, Jacob	1
Moore, Dylan	1
Mullenger-McHugh, Nathan*	1
Scrimshaw, Jack	1
Walker, Lachlan*	1

 

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2021:

BH Hawks v	Score For	Score Ag	Won/Lost	By​
1 v Casey (Melb)	10.7 67	17.16 118	Lost	-51​
2 v Nthn Bullants	17.10 112	8.8 56	Won	56​
3 v Sandringham (StK)	19.14 128	15.8 98	Won	30​
4 v Werribee	8.5 53	13.12 90	Lost	-37​
5 v North Melb (Nth)	23.12 150	6.6 42	Won	108​
6 v Carlton (Carl)	19.16 130	6.10 46	Won	84​
10 v Essendon (Ess)	15.12 102	7.9 51	Won	51​
11 v Aspley	15.19 109	7.5 47	Won	62​
12 v Gold Coast (GC)	15.21 111	5.9 39	Won	72​
16 v Collingwood (Coll)	18.15 123	9.6 60	Won	63​

Season interrupted by covid. Sam Mitchell led Box Hill were flying in top form and in 3rd place of 22 on the ladder when the season was cancelled.

Goalkickers (*non HFC listed) -

Greene, Fergus*	30​
Jeka, Emerson	23​
Adduci, Vincent*	13​
Brooksby, Keegan	9​
Morris, Josh	9​
Brockman, Tyler	7​
Phillips, Ed*	7​
Saunders, Jack	7​
Callow, Jackson	6​
Mascitti, Damian*	6​
Pepper, Harrison	5​
Hanrahan, Oliver	4​
Nash, Conor	4​
Howe, Daniel	3​
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	3​
Newcombe, Jai	3​
Reeves, Ned	3​
Ceglar, Jonathon	2​
Hartley, Michael	2​
Maginness, Finn	2​
Mynott, Trent*	2​
Sonsie, Tyler*	2​
Blanck, James*	1​
De Wit, Mason*	1​
Downie, Connor	1​
Mitchell, Seamus	1​
Morrison, Harry	1​
Porter, Callum*	1​
Walker, Lachlan*	1​

Times named in best players (*non HFC listed) -

Player	Rec'd​	Our BOG​
Mascitti, Damian*	8​	1​
Newcombe, Jai	6​	1​
Kilpatrick, Brayden*	5​
Adduci, Vincent*	4​	2​
Jeka, Emerson	4​	1​
Hanrahan, Oliver	3​
Maginness, Finn	3​	1​
Morris, Josh	3​
Ceglar, Jonathon	2​
Greaves, Damon	2​
Greene, Fergus*	2​	1​
Hartley, Michael	2​
Howe, Daniel	2​	1​
Porter, Callum*	2​	1​
Beasley, Hugh*	1​
Bramble, Lachlan	1​
Brooksby, Keegan	1​
Cunico, Jordan*	1​
Deluca, Josh*	1​
Mynott, Trent*	1​
Nash, Conor	1​	1​
Phillips, Ed*	1​
Reeves, Ned	1​
Saunders, Jack	1​

 

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2022:

BH Hawks v	Score For	Score Ag	Won/Lost	By​
1 v Collingwood (Coll)	17.8 110	18.4 112	Lost	-2​
2 v Carlton (Carl)	8.11 59	16.9 105	Lost	-46​
3 v Sandringham (StK)	15.9 99	7.14 56	Won	43​
5 v Coburg	8.19 67	6.7 43	Won	24​
6 v Casey (Melb)	11.6 72	10.19 79	Lost	-7​
7 v Essendon (Ess)	23.18 156	9.8 62	Won	94​
8 v Richmond (Rich)	15.16 106	10.13 73	Won	33​
10 v Gold Coast (GC)	17.9 111	13.11 89	Won	22​
11 v North Melb (NM)	15.17 107	4.12 36	Won	71​
12 v Port Melb	15.12 102	14.12 96	Won	6​
14 v Footscray (WB)	6.10 46	14.10 94	Lost	-48​
15 v GW Sydney (GWS)	7.18 60	14.7 91	Lost	-31​
16 v Southport	8.11 59	10.14 74	Lost	-15​
17 v Werribee	12.15 87	11.14 80	Won	7​
18 v Nthn Bullants	17.13 115	8.11 59	Won	56​
20 v Frankston	16.8 104	8.5 53	Won	51​
21 v Geelong (Geel)	14.13 97	7.12 54	Won	43​
22 v Sydney (Syd)	6.9 45	15.12 102	Lost	-57​
EF v Gold Coast (GC)	10.11 71	13.16 94	Lost	-23​

Spluttered along, clawed into 8th and got eliminated in the first week of finals to finish 8th of 21.

Goalkickers (*non HFC listed) -

Greene, Fergus*	53​
Cavarra, Ben*	41​
Callow, Jackson	17​
Parsons, James*	15​
Jeka, Emerson	12​
Saunders, Jack	11​
Serong, Jai	9​
Grey, Brady*	8​
Thorpe, Jaylon*	7​
Butler, Sam	6​
Hall, Max*	6​
Porter, Callum*	6​
Phillips, Ed*	5​
Ramsden, Max	5​
Howe, Daniel	4​
Shiels, Liam	4​
Windsor, Kai*	4​
Brinker-Ritchie, David*	3​
Cunico, Jordan*	2​
Downie, Connor	2​
Long, Ned	2​
Lynch, Max	2​
Mitchell, Seamus	2​
Phillips, Tom	2​
Worpel, James	2​
Arundell, Jake*	1​
Day, Will	1​
Hartigan, Kyle	1​
Koschitzke, Jacob	1​
Maginness, Finn	1​
Mascitti, Damian*	1​
Sruk, Mitchell*	1​
Walton, Max*	1​
Ward, Josh	1​
Wynd, Lachlan*	1​

Times named in best players (*non HFC listed) -

Player	Rec'd​	Our BOG​
Greene, Fergus*	11​
Howe, Daniel	10​	2​
Porter, Callum*	9​	5​
Cavarra, Ben*	8​	2​
Mascitti, Damian*	8​
Shiels, Liam	7​	2​
Grey, Brady*	5​
Parsons, James*	5​	1​
Blanck, James	4​
Phillips, Ed*	4​	1​
Phillips, Tom	4​	2​
Saunders, Jack	4​
Beasley, Hugh*	3​
Callow, Jackson	3​	1​
Morris, Josh	3​
Hartigan, Kyle	2​
Jeka, Emerson	2​
Maginness, Finn	2​
Ward, Josh	2​
Worpel, James	2​	1​
Brinker-Ritchie, David*	1​
Cunico, Jordan*	1​	1​
Day, Will	1​	1​
DeWit, Mason*	1​
Hall, Max	1​
Horner, Stuart*	1​
Impey, Jarman	1​
Koschitzke, Jacob	1​
Long, Ned	1​
Lynch, Max	1​
Macdonald, Connor	1​
Ramsden, Max	1​
Serong, Jai	1​
Thorpe, Jaylon*	1​

 

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2023:

BH Hawks v	Score For	Score Ag	Won/Lost	By​
1 v Sydney (Syd)	14.13 97	10.10 70	Won	27​
3 v Geelong (Geel)	16.11 107	7.10 52	Won	55​
4 v Collingwood (Cooll)	17.12 114	8.7 55	Won	59​
5 v Coburg	19.10 124	6.17 53	Won	71​
6 v Casey (Melb)	11.10 76	16.10 106	Lost	-30​
7 v Nthn Bullants	15.18 108	8.3 51	Won	57​
9 v Southport	11.18 84	6.9 45	Won	39​
10 v Essendon (Ess)	15.15 105	8.10 58	Won	47​
11 v Williamstown	9.7 61	11.10 76	Lost	-15​
12 v Brisbane (Bris)	16.13 109	12.18 90	Won	19​
14 v Gold Coast (GC)	12.13 85	24.5 149	Lost	-64​
15 v Port Melb	12.11 83	8.12 60	Won	23​
16 v GW Sydney (GWS)	13.11 89	11.9 75	Won	14​
17 v North Melb (NM)	10.13 73	10.8 68	Won	5​
18 v Richmond (Rich)	12.12 84	12.9 81	Won	3​
19 v Sandringham (StK)	17.19 121	11.8 74	Won	47​
21 v Footscray (WB)	8.8 56	11.10 76	Lost	-20​
22 v Frankston	16.9 105	10.6 66	Won	39​
QF v Werribee	8.12 60	11.14 80	Lost	-20​
SF v Footscray (WB)	14.11 95	10.15 75	Won	20​
PF v Gold Coast (GC)	11.7 73	12.16 88	Lost	-15​

A strong season saw the Hawks finish 3rd (of 21) behind the two best teams of the season.

Goalkickers (*non HFC listed) -

Thorpe, Jaylon*	26​
Greene, Fergus	21​
Butler, Sam	20​
Bennetts, Josh	19​
Koschitzke, Jacob	18​
Ramsden, Max	14​
Ryan, Brandon	13​
Grainger-Barras, Denver	10​
O'Sullivan, Jack	10​
Stephens, Cooper	10​
Hall, Max*	9​
Long, Ned	9​
Bramble, Lachlan	8​
Phillips, Ed*	8​
Rule, Jed*	8​
Arundell, Jake*	7​
Mascitti, Damian*	7​
Meek, Lloyd	6​
Porter, Callum*	5​
Stanley, Ethan*	5​
Brockman, Tyler	4​
Maric, Ryan*	4​
Hustwaite, Henry	3​
Lynch, Max	3​
Mackenzie, Cameron	3​
Waack, Tristen*	3​
Wynd, Lachlan*	3​
Jeka, Emerson	2​
Morris, Josh	2​
Morrison, Harry	2​
Murr, Darcy*	2​
Serong, Jai	2​
Ward, Josh	2​
Brown, Callum*	1​
Bryce, Lachlan*	1​
Macdonald, Bailey	1​
Macdonald, Connor	1​
Maginness, Finn	1​
Scrimshaw, Jack	1​
Tucker, Clay	1​
Wingard, Chad	1​

Times named in best players (*non HFC listed) -

Player	Rec'd​	Our BOG​
Brown, Callum*	13​	3​
Porter, Callum*	9​	2​
Long, Ned	7​	2​
Phillips, Ed*	7​	2​
Bramble, Lachlan	6​	1​
Koschitzke, Jacob	5​
Mascitti, Damian*	5​	2​
Ramsden, Max	5​	1​
Stephens, Cooper	5​
Grainger-Barras, Denver	4​
Hall, Max*	4​	1​
Jeka, Emerson	4​
Macdonald, Bailey	4​
Mackenzie, Cameron	4​	1​
Meek, Lloyd	4​	1​
Bennetts, Josh	3​
Greene, Fergus	3​
Hustwaite, Henry	3​
Maginness, Finn	3​
Serong, Jai	3​	1​
Beasley, Hugh*	2​	1​
Blanck, James	2​	1​
Butler, Sam	2​
Horner, Stuart*	2​
Lynch, Max	2​
Morrison, Harry	2​	1​
Scrimshaw, Jack	2​
Thorpe, Jaylon*	2​
Ward, Josh	2​	1​
Arundell, Jake*	1​
Brockman, Tyler	1​
Bryce, Lachlan*	1​
Macdonald, Connor	1​
Mitchell, Seamus	1​
Weddle, Josh	1​
Wingard, Chad	1​

 

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18 v Melb 11.29 95 4.21 45 Won 50

5 wins, 12 losses and a draw. 10th place of 12. With no ten goal losses it probably felt like a super successful season. How about the combined accuracy of that last match. 15 goals 50. Hopefully the boys enjoyed it though — it would be another 40 matches before they tasted victory again.

According to both Demon Wiki and my old 1986 The Complete Book of VFL Records, Hawthorn actually kicked 11-19 (85) in the last round Reserves game. The inaccurate kicking was replicated in the seniors, and compiler Stephen Rodgers commented on page 258:

...In the final round of that season [1944] Melbourne and Hawthorn teams were badly off target to the tune of 35-80 — Melbourne won Seniors 14-27 to 6-13 and Hawthorn won Reserves 11-19 to 4-21

The Age, however, did give the quite amazing score shown — amazing given that in senior VFL/AFL football 50 aggregate behinds has been equalled or exceeded only once, by Richmond and South Melbourne in Round 21 of 1974 when the Tigers and Swans combined for 40-51 (291).

In contrast, The Argus gave the score as 11-19.

Unfortunately, the Football Record, likely to be the most reliable source, is not loading the link which should come up here to check the correct score.

 

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18 v Melb 11.29 95 4.21 45 Won 50

I finally got to look at the Football Record here and the Record says on page 6 of 16 that Hawthorn kicked 11-19 (85) rather than 11-29.

Garry Young won the Reserves League Goalkicking in 1956 with 49, this included a bag of 10 in round five and 7 in round eighteen. His form was good enough for promotion for 4 games in a row from round 8 — he kicked no goals on debut, 4 in each of his next two games, then none and was dropped. As we will see, he was a super consistent goalkicker at Reserve level for a number of years before establishing himself in the senior side, winning the Most Improved Player in 1959, and in keeping with Hawthorn tradition, again in 1961. He won the Hawks goalkicking in 1959 and 1960.

What’s remarkable about that 10 goal performance in Round 5 is that in the Seniors later that afternoon no team kicked ten goals! The highest score that afternoon was a mere 67 points, and the ground conditions were a major topic of discussion in the aftermath and in Every Game Ever Played. Given that Young in his two goalless Senior matches was playing the very tough defences of Carlton and Melbourne, one wonders if the selectors were not too harsh on him, especially as Hawthorn continued to have severe problems up forward for the remainder of the season (even taking into account the low scoring of the period and unfavourable grounds).

 

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According to both Demon Wiki and my old 1986 The Complete Book of VFL Records, Hawthorn actually kicked 11-19 (85) in the last round Reserves game. The inaccurate kicking was replicated in the seniors, and compiler Stephen Rodgers commented on page 258:

The Age, however, did give the quite amazing score shown — amazing given that in senior VFL/AFL football 50 aggregate behinds has been equalled or exceeded only once, by Richmond and South Melbourne in Round 21 of 1974 when the Tigers and Swans combined for 40-51 (291).

In contrast, The Argus gave the score as 11-19.

Unfortunately, the Football Record, likely to be the most reliable source, is not loading the link which should come up here to check the correct score.

Thanks for this.

Since I posted that back in 2012 I have found a lot more info on the reserves details. I already had this one updated - the score went
4.4 to 1.4
7.10 to 1.8
9.13 to 1.14
11.19 to 4.21.