Hawthorn vs Geelong could be the next big rivalry in football

[BedlamHawk]

Think about it they are evenly matched in most areas of the ground. They both have hard inside midfielders with a lot of grunt (Lewis/Mitchell/Sewell vs Bartel/Corey/Rooke), classy forwards such as Hodge and Franklin compared to Ablett and S.Johnson/Mooney and their backlines are solid looking at the stats this year. I am not saying that these two will play off in the grand final but the tension between these sides dating back to 1989 is starting to build again and old wounds from the Kardinia Park days of the 90s will be reopened again as these young sides battle it out over the next 5 years.
I think West Coast and Geelong will play off for the grand final this year but in the coming years Hawthorn vs Geelong will be the game to watch, bookmark this.
Discuss

 

[Ricardo]

Not much of a rivalry when you beat us all the time

 

[BLue_Bloys]

Not much of a rivalry when you beat us all the time

lol clever,

Yeah i can't see why it wouldn't be a good rivalry. Both teams should be playing finals for at least next 5 years. Unless Geelong throws another 2006 at us

 

[ams4crows]

Sydney and West coast forged an new rivalry over the past 4 years it's gonna take a bit longer than a year for any other new rivaries to appear

 

[moistie]

Sydney and West coast forged an new rivalry over the past 4 years it's gonna take a bit longer than a year for any other new rivaries to appear

This won't be a new rivalry, it will be a rekindling of an old one. The Cats and the Hawks went at each other pretty hard in '88-'92.

 

[fishbowl]

The irresistible force meets the immovable object.

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

A team built on early draft picks VS a team built on quality drafting.

 

[Jimi]

Get over yourselves Hawks fans.

 

[cradle of filth]

Get over yourselves Hawks fans.

you come from Adelaide, enough said

 

[djlowz]

God I hope not, Hawks have always had the edge over us..

Damn 89' hoodoo..

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

you come from Adelaide, enough said

Quality...

 

[Pessimistic]

A team built on early draft picks VS a team built on quality drafting.

No compromise v lot of compromises - it will be more evident as time goes on.

bu then theres father-son. cats fans can look forward to their hopes relying on the sons of guys who them down in the eighties !

 

[SOTW 73]

Don't get me wrong - I think that the Hawks and Cats are playing some great footy at the moment...

However, don't get ahead of yourself - the Bulldogs finished 2005 5-1 and we were 9-4 after beating WCE in Perth after round 13 last year and to be honest we have been pretty average (up and down) since sides have worked out how to combat our style etc

It is firstly a challenge to start winning consistently BUT to hold the formline for 26 weeks is a much bigger challenge (particulalry with a young side and with the intensity the hawks and cats are playing with at the mo)

 

[cs61]

A team built on early draft picks VS a team built on quality drafting.

Gary Ablett Jr, Nathan Ablett and Hawkins was a real brainer.......

Nah both teams look good in terms of young talen and development but these future predictions never come through. St Kilda were expected to dominate, Essendon were thought to be up further than they were after 2000, things change.

But could potentially be a good matchup, but there are 14 other teamss pretty keen on saying otherwise.

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

Gary Ablett was 3rd rounder at best, Nathan wasn't going to play AFL at all. Hawkins I'll give you.

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

No compromise v lot of compromises - it will be more evident as time goes on.

Care to explain?

 

[Hawkk]

you come from Adelaide, enough said

Class

 

[Tizza]

oh please....neither side has won a flag in ages....its no where near Pies V lions or Swans V West Coast rivalries

 

[Choota]

A team built on early draft picks VS a team built on quality drafting.

If only you won once in a while...

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

If only you won once in a while...

Care to tell me how many current players at both Geelong and Hawthorn have played in a winning premiership for that club.

 

[moistie]

A team built on early draft picks VS a team built on quality drafting.

Quality drafting? What, like the Ablett brothers, Scarlett, Harley and Hawkins? It's quality drafting to have players handed to you under the father-son rule is it?

Or by quality drafting do you mean like Sam Mitchell, Brad Sewell, Clint Young, Robert Campbell, Simon Taylor and Ben McGlynn who started out at, and were picked up from Box Hill? Sewell, Young and McGlynn came from the rookie list, and have played a major part in our rise this season, but that doesn't count for quality drafting in your eyes?

Or by quality drafting do you mean the two regulars in our backline who were preseason draftees in Guerra and Gilham?

Maybe you mean the trades we made for Hodge (1) and Mitchell (36) for Croad and McFarlane, Lewis (7) for Thompson, Bailey (18) and Birchall (14) for Hay?

Could it be that you really don't rate Campbell Brown (31), Sam Mitchell (36), Tim Boyle (51), Tom Murphy (21), Simon Taylor (52) and Beau Muston (22). I mean after all, they all are second round or later picks.

And while you slag us for getting high draft picks, while touting the quality of your recruiting as the reason you're doing so well, then you certainly mustn't rate Bartel, Kelly, Mackie, Tenace, Varcoe or Selwood. Apparently while Hawthorn is built on high draft picks, yours was through good drafting.

Sure we have Roughead and Ellis from priorities, but the majority of our list has been put together through intelligent trading, drafting and use of the rookie list.

And the complete rebuilding of our list occurred in two seasons (end of '04 and '05). From having the horror of Beaumont, Piciaone, Ries, Graham, Lonie, McCabe, Brennan, Barlow, Holland, Cox, Tallis, Hay, Barker, Kane and Greene to having one of the most talented young lists in the league that we have now.

But if you want to talk about something you know nothing about, feel free.

 

[Clay Davis]

oh please....neither side has won a flag in ages....its no where near Pies V lions or Swans V West Coast rivalries

my god you are stupid.

 

[xellis]

Quality drafting? What, like the Ablett brothers, Scarlett, Harley and Hawkins? It's quality drafting to have players handed to you under the father-son rule is it?

Or by quality drafting do you mean like Sam Mitchell, Brad Sewell, Clint Young, Robert Campbell, Simon Taylor and Ben McGlynn who started out at, and were picked up from Box Hill? Sewell, Young and McGlynn came from the rookie list, and have played a major part in our rise this season, but that doesn't count for quality drafting in your eyes?

Or by quality drafting do you mean the two regulars in our backline who were preseason draftees in Guerra and Gilham?

Maybe you mean the trades we made for Hodge (1) and Mitchell (36) for Croad and McFarlane, Lewis (7) for Thompson, Bailey (18) and Birchall (14) for Hay?

Could it be that you really don't rate Campbell Brown (31), Sam Mitchell (36), Tim Boyle (51), Tom Murphy (21), Simon Taylor (52) and Beau Muston (22). I mean after all, they all are second round or later picks.

And while you slag us for getting high draft picks, while touting the quality of your recruiting as the reason you're doing so well, then you certainly mustn't rate Bartel, Kelly, Mackie, Tenace, Varcoe or Selwood. Apparently while Hawthorn is built on high draft picks, yours was through good drafting.

Sure we have Roughead and Ellis from priorities, but the majority of our list has been put together through intelligent trading, drafting and use of the rookie list.

And the complete rebuilding of our list occurred in two seasons (end of '04 and '05). From having the horror of Beaumont, Piciaone, Ries, Graham, Lonie, McCabe, Brennan, Barlow, Holland, Cox, Tallis, Hay, Barker, Kane and Greene to having one of the most talented young lists in the league that we have now.

But if you want to talk about something you know nothing about, feel free.

BAM!

 

[ripitup27]

Quality drafting? What, like the Ablett brothers, Scarlett, Harley and Hawkins? It's quality drafting to have players handed to you under the father-son rule is it?

Or by quality drafting do you mean like Sam Mitchell, Brad Sewell, Clint Young, Robert Campbell, Simon Taylor and Ben McGlynn who started out at, and were picked up from Box Hill? Sewell, Young and McGlynn came from the rookie list, and have played a major part in our rise this season, but that doesn't count for quality drafting in your eyes?

Or by quality drafting do you mean the two regulars in our backline who were preseason draftees in Guerra and Gilham?

Maybe you mean the trades we made for Hodge (1) and Mitchell (36) for Croad and McFarlane, Lewis (7) for Thompson, Bailey (18) and Birchall (14) for Hay?

Could it be that you really don't rate Campbell Brown (31), Sam Mitchell (36), Tim Boyle (51), Tom Murphy (21), Simon Taylor (52) and Beau Muston (22). I mean after all, they all are second round or later picks.

And while you slag us for getting high draft picks, while touting the quality of your recruiting as the reason you're doing so well, then you certainly mustn't rate Bartel, Kelly, Mackie, Tenace, Varcoe or Selwood. Apparently while Hawthorn is built on high draft picks, yours was through good drafting.

Sure we have Roughead and Ellis from priorities, but the majority of our list has been put together through intelligent trading, drafting and use of the rookie list.

And the complete rebuilding of our list occurred in two seasons (end of '04 and '05). From having the horror of Beaumont, Piciaone, Ries, Graham, Lonie, McCabe, Brennan, Barlow, Holland, Cox, Tallis, Hay, Barker, Kane and Greene to having one of the most talented young lists in the league that we have now.

But if you want to talk about something you know nothing about, feel free.

1. Harley was never father-son, we got him off Port Adelaide who didn't want him.
2. Matthew Egan (Pick 62)
3. David Wojcinski (Pick 24)
4. Paul Chapman (Pick 31)
5. Cameron Ling (Pick 38)
6. Corey Enright (Pick 47)
7. Josh Hunt (Pick 44)
8. Steve Johnson (Pick 24)
9. David Johnson (Pick 81)
10. Mathew Stokes (Pick 61)
11. Max Rooke (Rookie Elevation)

Yep, Geelong are terrible at the draft table.

And you wanna talk horror on a list? Try Corrigan, Steinfort, McKinnon, Bizzell, Lowther, Biddiscombe, Houlihan, White, Bamford, Murphy, Clarke, Spriggs.

Bam that moron.

 

[moistie]

1. Harley was never father-son, we got him off Port Adelaide who didn't want him.
2. Matthew Egan (Pick 62)
3. David Wojcinski (Pick 24)
4. Paul Chapman (Pick 31)
5. Cameron Ling (Pick 38)
6. Corey Enright (Pick 47)
7. Josh Hunt (Pick 44)
8. Steve Johnson (Pick 24)
9. David Johnson (Pick 81)
10. Mathew Stokes (Pick 61)
11. Max Rooke (Rookie Elevation)

Yep, Geelong are terrible at the draft table.

Ummmm, let me point out to you that I wasn't attacking Geelongs drafting, you were attacking Hawthorns drafting. I think Geelong have done a good job.

So you've got eleven players that were second round or later... much like Mitchell, Young, Sewell, Taylor, Campbell, McGlynn, Muston, Murphy, Boyle and Brown? There's ten current Hawthorn senior listed players for you that come from the exact same boat.

But apparently Geelong are a better drafting team than Hawthorn because they've never gotten a priority pick. No mention of being gifted a centre spine through the father-son rule, but hey, that would be inconvenient wouldn't it?