Hobart stadium

[darcytiger]

Gold Coast has more growth potential than Tasmania.

Sidenote, I am not sure it was mentioned but what capacity is this stadium supposed to be?

Tasmania has people who care about footy, Gold Coast does not.

 

[RUNVS]

Tasmania has people who care about footy, Gold Coast does not.

Tasmania also has a tiny population that is not really growing either.

 

[darcytiger]

Tasmania also has a tiny population that is not really growing either.

You’re right, scrap Tasmania. Tokyo would be a much better fit.

There is greater population of invested football supporters in Tasmania than Gold Coast and Tokyo combined.

 

[RUNVS]

You’re right, scrap Tasmania. Tokyo would be a much better fit.

There is greater population of invested football supporters in Tasmania than Gold Coast and Tokyo combined.

Reductio ad absurdum - a method of proving the falsity of a premise by showing that its logical consequence is absurd or contradictory.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

That is probably a good amount as I very much doubt there would be many games in Hobart where they could get a crowd over 27,000.

I think it should be a minimum 30k hawthorn vs Essendon sold out in 45 minutes last year and there was still thousands chasing tickets. Games against Essendon Collingwood Richmond all the big vic clubs I think could easily sell 30k tickets. They made a mistake when upgrading the entertainment centre for nbl they didn’t increase the capacity all the games have been sellouts with people missing out also if they have a roof it would be very difficult to increase the capacity in the future

 

[kreglze]

Tasmania has people who care about footy, Gold Coast does not.

Plenty of people on the GC like AFL, they just don't follow the Suns...

 

[Verdun]

Tasmania also has a tiny population that is not really growing either.

What do you base your info on the population of Tas not growing? There has been a steady migration from NSW, Vic etc for the last decade.

 

[Walshawk]

I think it should be a minimum 30k hawthorn vs Essendon sold out in 45 minutes last year and there was still thousands chasing tickets. Games against Essendon Collingwood Richmond all the big vic clubs I think could easily sell 30k tickets. They made a mistake when upgrading the entertainment centre for nbl they didn’t increase the capacity all the games have been sellouts with people missing out also if they have a roof it would be very difficult to increase the capacity in the future

They don't need a roof, nor moveable seating, better plan would be to build a 35K-40K stadium for less. Hawthorn averaged over 15K v small clubs in Launceston, so a Tas team would double that. Note that Launceston will be expanded to over 24K in 2023/24. They will expand again to 27,500 if Tas get a team and they get 50% of games. Better to leave Launceston at 24K and make Hobart bigger. Two stadiums with 27,500 capacity is strange - pick one for big games and finals.

 

[Jazny]

Tasmania also has a tiny population that is not really growing either.

Why do people come here and just make up fake facts?

 

[RUNVS]

Why do people come here and just make up fake facts?

Tasmania in 2000 had a population of 472,288

3101.0 - Australian Demographic Statistics, Dec 2001

www.abs.gov.au

Tasmania in 2022 has a population of 541,500

National, state and territory population, December 2023

Statistics about the population and components of change (births, deaths, migration) for Australia and its states and territories

www.abs.gov.au

So Tasmania has only had a growth of about 70,000 people in 21 years.

Compare that to Queensland which in the same period went from 3.6 million to 5.2 million, which is a growth of 1.5 million people.

 

[Kappa]

Why do people come here and just make up fake facts?

Your own premier has set an “ambitious” target of reaching 650k population by 2050. The state is growing extremely slowly, and is only going to fall further behind the mainland states that grow in gross population much much faster.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Your own premier has set an “ambitious” target of reaching 650k population by 2050. The state is growing extremely slowly, and is only going to fall further behind the mainland states that grow in gross population much much faster.

Rubbish since covid it’s going the opposite direction hence why propertyprices are going through the roof in the large regional areas .people are looking to move from the large metropolitan areas

 

[Jazny]

Your own premier has set an “ambitious” target of reaching 650k population by 2050. The state is growing extremely slowly, and is only going to fall further behind the mainland states that grow in gross population much much faster.

Our population up by around 45, 000 in the years between 2011-21! We are at 541, 000 at the end of 2021. I think the premier needs to change the goal to 700, 000!

Beautiful climate, incredible arts and culture, good food, best economy, fresh air, incredible scenery, unique natural forests and world class mountain bike trails! I guess we can't compete with Victoria's corrupt crown casino though



"The data also shows there were 5,780 births in Tasmania during the year and our annual growth rate of 0.6 per cent was higher than national growth"

Latest news

www.premier.tas.gov.au

"When looking across growth rates for the states and territories Tasmania, Northern Territory and NSW have annual growth rates exceeding the national average on six of the eight indicators"

CommSec State of the States: Tasmanian economy still No.1

New CommSec economic data indicates Tasmania is out-performing, while there is little to separate other state economies.

www.commbank.com.au

 

[RUNVS]

To me I think Tasmania needs at least 900,000 people to make an AFL team properly viable, 800,000 at a pinch.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Your own premier has set an “ambitious” target of reaching 650k population by 2050. The state is growing extremely slowly, and is only going to fall further behind the mainland states that grow in gross population much much faster.

Are you a demographer? You add covid a football team to Tassie and watch the population grow, not sure if you've seen over Sri Lanka, they actually built a stadium for cricket and a city grew from there. People from Melbourne will move there, it's far more livable to live in Hobart to Melbourne. More people go, more facilities shift to Tassie.

27k is more than ok, similar size to Kardinia park, look at the profits the cat's make, I'm sure everyone from Tassie will buy a seat.

 

[Jazny]

To me I think Tasmania needs at least 900,000 people to make an AFL team properly viable, 800,000 at a pinch.

Quick, ring Gill and tell him you've made up some random numbers! You might still have time to change his mind that he made up based on numerous studies that show our team is viable.

 

[RUNVS]

Quick, ring Gill and tell him you've made up some random numbers! You might still have time to change his mind that he made up based on numerous studies that show our team is viable.

They aren't random numbers

Western Australia (2.6 million) - 1.3 million per team
South Australia (1.7 million) - 850,000 per team
Victoria - (6.6 million) - 660,000 per team

Now Victoria struggles a bit with 1 team per 660,000 so that is not enough, so it has to be closer to South Australia than Victoria.

 

[Jazny]

They aren't random numbers

Western Australia (2.6 million) - 1.3 million per team
South Australia (1.7 million) - 850,000 per team
Victoria - (6.6 million) - 660,000 per team

But we need 900, 000 800, 000 at a pinch. Quick, Gill has made a huge mistake! How did he not see this incredible data you have provided?

 

[Tasmanian saint]

To me I think Tasmania needs at least 900,000 people to make an AFL team properly viable, 800,000 at a pinch.

What do you base this number on?

 

[RUNVS]

But we need 900, 000 800, 000 at a pinch. Quick, Gill has made a huge mistake! How did he not see this incredible data you have provided?

Yes, but Victoria has double up numbers a lot of the time, two Victorian teams playing each other for instance. This isn't going to happen with a Tasmanian team so you need a population more similar to South Australia.

 

[Jazny]

Yes, but Victoria has double up numbers a lot of the time, two Victorian teams playing each other for instance. This isn't going to happen with a Tasmanian team so you need a population more similar to South Australia.

Luckily for us Gill doesn't know how to divide total clubs by state population size and make random assumptions based on those numbers. Instead he had actual businessman with years of experience do actual financial research. What a rookie mistake. He really should have called Kappa and RUNVS from bigfooty before deciding to support our team.

 

[RUNVS]

Luckily for us Gill doesn't know how to divide total clubs by state population size and make random assumptions based on those numbers. Instead he had actual businessman with years of experience do actual financial research. What a rookie mistake. He really should have called Kappa and RUNVS from bigfooty before deciding to support our team.

Yes, that is why Gil has been CEO of the AFL for almost 8 years and he has been doing everything in his power to get Tasmania into the competition and has not been stalling, trying to deflect and trying to get Tasmanian expansion fans off his back. I mean Tasmania must be extremely viable for Gil to be this keen.

 

[Jazny]

Yes, that is why Gil has been CEO of the AFL for almost 8 years and he has been doing everything in his power to get Tasmania into the competition and has not been stalling, trying to deflect and trying to get Tasmanian expansion fans off his back. I mean Tasmania must be extremely viable for Gil to be this keen.

Now we have to be extremely viable to exist. Carter has said our team is viable. I am sure he did more than just divide the population of each state by the number of clubs they have.

 

[RUNVS]

Now we have to be extremely viable to exist. Carter has said our team is viable. I am sure he did more than just divide the population of each state by the number of clubs they have.

Yes and ever since that report the AFL has been super excited about getting Tasmania into the competition. We have practically had to hold them back with their eagerness.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Yes and ever since that report the AFL has been super excited about getting Tasmania into the competition. We have practically had to hold them back with their eagerness.

Tassie should look at how Geelong are strong viable club, use a similar model, you can't compare to Melbourne clubs, Geelong has had a large amount of growth and I reckon Hobart with an AFL team would be similar